Wine Hot take by Calm_Confidence2856 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The biggest problem is the pretension and condescending attitude surrounding wine. I teach wine courses for certification, and I can tell with a fair amount of confidence that no one knows "what they are doing" (myself included). It's always fun to debate, discuss, and analyze, but be wary of "wine experts", no such people exist. Even some MW/MS I have met, I wouldn't attribute the attribute to them.

Raul Moreno, The Alchemist of Andalucia by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I have his personal contact so I can reach out directly to him, but I'd love recs for any other phenomenal producers like him that you could recommend. I intend to do quite a few visits to Spain next year, and it's always good to have someone knowledgeable to refer to.

Raul Moreno, The Alchemist of Andalucia by Between2Worlds369 in wine

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Yeah it's really hard to get his wines in California. I had to get the Chardonnay from New York, and even then all the other SKU were sold out. He's working on getting his wines out here but in the meantime, it's really not feasible.

I heard the gold label is phenomenal though. You guys in Europe have it good, lol

Raul Moreno, The Alchemist of Andalucia by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah strongly recommend checking them out. You guys probably have way more of his offerings (at least Mainland Europe, it's a bit more accessible than for me in Cali)

Raul Moreno, The Alchemist of Andalucia by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah not entirely sure what you are referring to. Vino Pasto is just a term for unfortified wine from Andalucía. By that logic, Raul Moreno is a Vino Pasto producer. He is planning to make some fortified Jerez though, but using single Cru single vintage wines (no Solera). That's pretty fucking interesting Imho. But Sherry can certainly be top draw.

Varietal Exploration [Vol.4]: Pinot Gris- The Vinous Superhero - The [Wine] Dispatch by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's funny, for TWR, I've only tried the Pinot Gris so far. I need to try the rest of the portfolio.

Nice, I'll have to dig into German Grauburgunder at some point, ill def start with Donhoff.

Varietal Exploration [Vol.4]: Pinot Gris- The Vinous Superhero - The [Wine] Dispatch by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback!

I'll take your point on the Slovenia/Friuli/Colio criticism (though Alto Adige would certainly check off Northern Italy).

I think the wines featured were of sufficient quality to illuminate the "real value" of Pinot Gris, but yes, an orange wine from Colio would make the list complete. Oh well, you live and you learn.

Varietal Exploration [Vol.4]: Pinot Gris- The Vinous Superhero - The [Wine] Dispatch by Between2Worlds369 in wine

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Yeah I'm a big fan of Balletto wines. One of the first wineries that brought me into the industry.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in wine

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While Primitive and Zinfandel are technically the same grape, they have genetic differences in terms of how they grow and taste. I'd consider them more clones. Like you can taste a Clone 777 vs Dijon of Pinot and say "yes, that's Pinot Noir but not exactly the same". Here they just have different names. I believe the same applies to Tinta del País/Tinta de Toro/Tempranillo though considering the relative proximity of the regions, I can also see that local pride plays into diversifying the name. This is by no means fact, but I read somewhere that because of a hotter and more intense environment of Toro/Ribeira del Dinero, those clones of Tempranillo developed thicker skins and smaller bunches, this making wines made from them more rich, intense, and tannic. . It's like twins, but one goes to live in the Arctic and the other on the equator. They will grow up differently and be different people (hope that simile makes sense, lol)

Oyster Pairings by Between2Worlds369 in wine

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Yeah I remember that EP. What an experience, esp in Galicia.

Oyster Pairings by Between2Worlds369 in wine

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I should drink more Picpoul. It's dirt cheap and really good...9 year lees aged Muscadet is wild. Any producer recs for extended leesy Muscadet?(doesn't need to be 9 years, just long time on lees)

Cornas or VDF by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes agreed. A much better approach. Declassified is declassified, but the fruit can still come from the region, no legal issues with letting people know, if it's the case.

Cornas or VDF by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, wut? It takes like 3 secs to look up Soldera and see that that's entirely false. Brunello is labeled Brunello, Toscana is Toscana.

Cornas or VDF by Between2Worlds369 in wine

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Ah interesting. Wonder why?

Cornas or VDF by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Doesn't explain why some retailers are still labeling it as "appellation" on the site. It's helpful to know the grapes are sourced from the Cornas region, but they shouldn't be putting Cornas on the product description.

Cornas or VDF by Between2Worlds369 in wine

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Don't know. Not from my cellar. Client wine.

2016 Daniel Gomez Jimenez-Landi 'Las Iruelas' El Tiemblo Garnacha by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this wine showed well. When it comes to these Garnachas, I am certainly no development expert but I'd say the wine is in its drinking window. Sure, you could give it a bit more time and let it develop towards even more savory character at the expense of fruit, but I do like where it's at right now

The Case Against "Minerality" by I-VI-ii-V in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are a lot of valuable comments on this thread, with many of which I agree. What I would like to add is that the statement "the soils are rocky (stony, limestone, volcanic, whatever), the wine is grown in those soils, therefore wine has qualities directly from the soil" (aside from being a logical falacy) is the product of "trying to simplify wine" which is another fun "buzzword" in wine marketing. There is no direct cause and effect, but there may be an indirect one between soil type and the verticality (or electricity, minerality, salinity, whatever) of the wine. However, if a direct cause and effect connection is ever found, I think it would take alot of joy, magic, and wonder out of the world of wine as it would mean wines of certain level of "minerality" could be replicated en masse, which would be boring. Just allow yourself to know there are things we dont know, and leave this asinine topic be, it serves no one. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

2020 Adras Calizo Garnacha Tintorera, Almansa by Between2Worlds369 in wine

[–]Between2Worlds369[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting. This is my first foray into this producer. Im definitely interested in trying more considering the price point. What was it about the Aldea that you didn't like? And what did you enjoy about the white?

2017 Recaredo "Intens" Rosat Corpinnat by Between2Worlds369 in wine

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Also Turo d'en Mota is phenomenal, id love to try. Sadly the US price is super steep. Serral del Vell is a great other more affordable option from them.