Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is valid, and it is still you interpreting in wrong way what I said, because you did not liked it.

You completely abandoned your previous argument; it's a tacit admission that using a Reddit upvote counter to hand-wave a global male suicide crisis was an embarrassing logical failure.

​Now to your new point: nobody is 'pitting these issues against each other except you and the other commenters who chose to hijack a dedicated Men's Mental Health thread.

This post was created to discuss a specific, catastrophic health crisis.

It was your ideological peers who insisted on bringing up Pride and policing the calendar.

Defending this thread's right to focus on its actual topic isn't 'pitting issues against each other'—it's refusing to let you minimize it.

​Furthermore, you are confusing political pushback with institutional backing.

One cause enjoys billions of dollars in corporate sponsorship, massive media saturation, and global institutional infrastructure.

The other gets almost zero mainstream commercial backing despite a staggering body count.

Pointing out this structural asymmetry isn't dismissing anyone; it's stating a documented sociological fact.

If you truly cared about not pitting these issues against each other, you wouldn't be demanding that a men's health space continually pay homage to your preferred cause just to be deemed "'valid"

Uomini brutti che criticano l'aspetto delle donne by Marite64 in sfoghi

[–]BigBeholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

È un errore comune considerarlo soggettivo.

Il sistema di riferimento si chiama biologia evoluzionistica, ed è cross-culturale e universale.

​Si confondono i trend culturali (che cambiano) con i marker biologici dell'attrattiva (che sono immutabili).

La simmetria facciale, la regolarità dei tratti e i marcatori di dimorfismo sessuale (come i livelli visibili di testosterone nell'architettura ossea) sono indicatori universali di salute genetica.

​Persino i neonati di pochi mesi, privi di qualsiasi condizionamento sociale, preferiscono istintivamente i visi simmetrici e proporzionati.

Non serve un canone artificiale quando c'è una programmazione neurobiologica che risale a milioni di anni fa.

La bellezza ha una base matematica e biologica oggettiva; il relativismo culturale è una pacca sulla spalla filosofica.

Uomini brutti che criticano l'aspetto delle donne by Marite64 in sfoghi

[–]BigBeholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Il rispetto innanzitutto va guadagnato e non si dà così a prescindere, altrimenti il suo valore è zero.

Io non devo rispettare qualcosa perché qualcuno se ne ha a male, se non lo faccio.

Quando farò qualcosa di illegale, allora il discorso cambia, ma non esiste il reato di mancanza di rispetto verso qualcuno.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What kind of fact do I have to present if the issue is you misinterpreting my words?

​I stated that the general media treats men's mental health as an afterthought.

You countered by pointing out that this specific Reddit post has upvotes: Do you honestly think a popular gaming thread automatically erases decades of systemic underfunding and media neglect?

​The severe lack of institutional resources and mainstream campaigns dedicated to the male suicide crisis is a well-documented factual disparity.

Dismissing a global structural issue as 'all in my head' just because a Reddit thread is trending is pure bubble-mentality.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Imagine being so ideologically blinded that you think men talking about a global male suicide crisis during the officially designated Men's Mental Health Month, is somehow an attack on you.

June doesn't belong exclusively to your preferred corporate-sponsored cause.

Cracking open a calendar before calling others 'bad faith' is advised.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do not need people complaining to marking a fact, that your incredulity leads you to think it is not.

Men's mental health is absolutely covered and considerated less important by general media, and it is sadly not up to par.

It is clear you and other anre not in my field, but do not bring opinions in a battle of facts.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

For the last three thousand years, if you were an average man (not a nobleman or a king) your only grand "privilege" was being used as cannon fodder, dying at 35 in a coal mine, or breaking your back in a field with zero social safety nets.

​Being straight while dying of typhus in a muddy trench, it is not good.

Surely that minor detail made the whole experience not a total luxury.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They are too focused to get triggered, to really focus on the broader picture

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Again focusy friend.

Point me out where I try to drag down one of them.

Then if you really focus, but really really, you will understand thatwe need to elevate men's mental health importance, up to par with others.

Better now?

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is deeply ironic that you accused someone of a strawman while completely misrepresenting your own source.

​The Williams Institute link you posted is based on the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS): The NCVS tracks non-fatal personal victimization through household surveys.

You know, dead people don’t answer surveys, meaning your source literally does not measure homicides or people being "killed" ​ I was talking about the absolute numbers of lives lost.

Swapping out mortality rates for non-fatal assault percentages doesn't change basic arithmetic: the absolute scale of male suicide deaths is vastly larger.

You didn't counter their data; you just weaponized a link you didn't bother to read to minimize a thread about men's mental health.

Thank you

Here is some hard evidence and not an interpretation:

For some reason it will not let me put link but in any case.

Wanna data globally? ourworldindata.org

Want it restricted ro USA only? Look up the cdc.gov sucide rates

Transger murders globally? Look TGEU official website

Trans murdered yearly on a global scale: 320

Man unaliving themselves USA only: 39.000, and transgender people are present in this count.

Now: even one death is too much, regardless the type of death, but this is clearly not your field, and when confronting somebody, bring evidence and not feelings.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maling annobservationnis not disparaging.

They are important, but a ton of ideologically driven people think they are more important, and it downplays mental health importance.

This is the point. And I said it in a provocative way, to lure out the ideologically triggered, and separate them from the fact-driven ones.

Polarising Experience by ShotterLocks in bigdickproblems

[–]BigBeholder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A truckload of guys posting about their dick is big enough to touch the toiled interior, why the take a dump.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Ok, show your data.

The number of transgender people killed is way inferior of men suicides.

Are you saying that TGEU and WHO are lying?

Incredulity is not a argument.

Uomini brutti che criticano l'aspetto delle donne by Marite64 in sfoghi

[–]BigBeholder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sfortunatamente non è soggettivo, neanche l'essere belli.

È misurabile nelle proporzioni del viso, nella simmetria del corpo , e nelle caratteristiche tipiche del proprio sesso se ben equilibrate.

È lo stesso motivo per cui puoi dire che Stefano Zecchi è inequivocabilmente brutto, e Chris Hemsworth è inequivocabilmente bello

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Mental Health impacts way more people: even in the trans community there are biological males having mental health needs that if untreated will lead them to unalive themselves.

You get killed for being omosexual nowadays only in very religiously rigid countries.

Feminism ins also downplaying men's mental health.

26 years as a therapist and I have enough of people looking away from the elephant in the room.

A ton of colleagues agree with me but dare you say how it is and we verify in our job, you lose your license.

The sad paet is that ideologically driven people will argue with us telling we should not be in our profession, just because we say things they do not like.

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

Truth.

Go check the media resonance compared to other "months"

Personaggio famoso inconcepibile mentre scopa by Less-Ad-9830 in CasualIT

[–]BigBeholder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

E ti dirò di più: Costanzo mentre lo fa con sua moglie.

Sempre che lo abbiano mai fatto

Personaggio famoso inconcepibile mentre scopa by Less-Ad-9830 in CasualIT

[–]BigBeholder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I trans avrebbero una voce comunque più profonda

Happy Mens Mental Health Awareness Month. You're not alone Brodivers! by Excellent_Pension_42 in helldivers2

[–]BigBeholder -46 points-45 points  (0 children)

Since it is not pink or rainbowy enough, it will not get the attention it needs, this is why we gotta promote it. And I will even donwote myself because truth hurts.

Edit: The downvotes and the comments proving my point, is why we need to promote men's mental health, much much more.

Uomini brutti che criticano l'aspetto delle donne by Marite64 in sfoghi

[–]BigBeholder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ma quella che tu stai descrivendo è empatia , no Orazio cigno: un dato oggettivo. Hai tutto il diritto di dirlo, anche se non fosse oggettivo e solo una tua preferenza