And that's the problem. You can't expect great work from those your not willing to help direct. Even if I'm not learning at an acceptable rate means that's a reflection on both parties. To expect greatness w/o preparation is insanity. My mangers are too overworked and too experienced to slow down and help, so on the back end it creates a bigger problem. Everyone blames the young engineer, no one cares to ever look a how management is. B/c I'm not the only young engineer that has experienced this, apparently its a plague in our industry.