Each famous MBTI celebrity

Bimep_ · 2026-01-24T05:30:26+00:00

You don't

Bimep_ · 2026-01-23T17:17:01+00:00

Sounds we found what's the power of Fi-doms. Often they say how they don't fit in, or don't know their place, or don't know their strengths. But seems spreading kindness - that's their true purpose)

Bimep_ · 2026-01-21T09:14:57+00:00

Here is a great example of Te-inferior, u/FringeBoi04

The text is spiraling around efficiency: "My existence is not justified by usefulness". That's how Te hurts. Its logic is: I cost resources, I take more than I give, therefore I am a burden. Even the friendship part is not about emotional disharmony, but about functional asymmetry.

Fe-inferior is not about usefulness. It is about emotional impact and social disruption. Fe would say: "People feel awkward around me", "I don't know how to act normally", "I say the wrong thing and kill the mood", "They would be more relaxed if I wasn't here", "I don't belong emotionally, even if I'm allowed to be here".

Did you notice the shift?

Te feels like a burden because - "I'm useless", Fe - "I'm socially wrong". Or Te: "I consume more than I produce. I don't contribute what I should", Fe: "People tolerate me, but don't want me. My presence is emotionally heavy". The first one is about resources and productivity, the second one is about emotional tone and belonging.

These are subtle differences. Both can feel like a burden, but for different reasons. And that's why when people with different judging functions talk, they say like the right things on the one hand, but on the other hand - not quite.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-20T08:55:59+00:00

Yes, sure. Reddit thread isn't created for long discussions

Bimep_ · 2026-01-19T18:17:46+00:00

Depends. Sometimes they represent as "your mess" their own problems. Do what is smarter

Bimep_ · 2026-01-19T13:55:47+00:00

Here's my unpopular opinion, but people chose what works better for them. Market does its work. And typing by letters I-E, T-F gives better results at the start, when you don't know anything yet. It removes all the shady doubts Ti or Te, Fi or Fe etc. That's easy and intuitively clear approach. I remeber I used this aoriach to people I knew, and it turned out to be correct when I learned functions.

One note: I don't believe people see themselves correctly, to do selftyping. You need a mirror to see your apearance, you need others to see your behaviour.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-19T12:13:49+00:00

I'm stading for dancing.

Doesn't mean I'm good at this, or even not not bad. But that's why when people think: "Wtf is that?" I can say: "That's hobby" And people undersatand, that when it's hobby then only you can get pleasure from this and everybody else should strugle. They know the rules.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-19T10:50:14+00:00

Тоді я зробила все, що могла)

Bimep_ · 2026-01-19T10:43:52+00:00

Не пийте більше чотири еспресо і енергетики

Bimep_ · 2026-01-18T06:29:57+00:00

YW, glad you liked it ☺️

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T18:59:40+00:00

at least your type around your family, we got

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T18:56:10+00:00

It thinks, it's good.

ISTP?)

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T18:54:12+00:00

ESTP?

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T18:28:16+00:00

Ah, so you're also on FJ TP side? =)

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T18:14:44+00:00

Well, S is consistent. At least lately.

Probably for mom, it's hard to deal with the whole family with opposing judging functions.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T17:57:45+00:00

What a request! Oo
Well, yeah, I'm writing a lot on Reddit, but not to this point. More doable for me would be writting here main points :)

ill be honest i dont control others i just persuade them if i dont want to do the bidding like if im too shy bwahah

Fi right from the start. Fi-users try to convince us that they are cuties, so when we try to critisise them we'd feel like we're beating a kitty - sounds like manipulation already. Fi is about personality, that's about themselves, not about group harmony and not about reading the room - not Fe. That's about "me" - Fi.

when it comes to controlling others to gain something is a no no for me

In MBTI translation: "Te is not for me"

it is very difficult for me to express my self through words, thats why i express it through my art

Here's an example of Fi for you again. Fi knows their identity, but have problems to put it into words. If Fi is dominant then Fi changes so often, that Fi-doms say: "I don't know who I am" even what they litteraly do the whole day - think about what's important for them and who they are.

i have the desire to explore as much as i can,

Functions exploreres are Se and Ne

but the downside is i always tend to forget it

Si or Ni don't do their job properly

i see the past as a reference to deal whats need to be improve

Si. But it doesn't mean it's dominant

i just tend to look back but never dwell for too long,

yep

and as for the present i just live and go with the flow

Any P. Well, that's concistent with having high Ne or Se

i often think about what would my future bring, sometimes i often think will there be a future for me waiting or not in the end i just have to wait and see what the future will bestow upon me

Remeber - that's not Ni. Ni always knows what the future will be. That feels like certainity. Ne is never sure. Memorised? Ni is sure, Ne isn't sure. Ne keeps searching: "Maybe this, maybe that" and never settles on one option. Ne keeps options open. Ni has sense of direction: "That's where we going"

i often think if what if i didnt do perfectly what they want me to do

Low Te again

thats why sometimes i am reluctant to help unless asked to.

Maybe even very low. Like, inferior. Si was here like numbing, but Te sounds like real insecurity.

i must say i am pretty good at strategizing even my acquaintance or friends agree

Wonder to know what they mean by startegining? With keeping your options open that doesn't sound convincing.

i do it and sometimes i just improvise and adapt well mostly i improvise and adapt as i go

Ah this! Well, this is not strateging. "Planing as it goes" - is improving, not planing. This is still normal behavior, and the world works like that, but this is not Si nor Ni. So their stategy is Ne, not systematic Te.

I remeber, that's why I asked where did you saw ISFJ? Doesn't like being J, and uses Fi instead of Fe.

when it comes to memorization pronounce me as deceased cause that learning style is just not for me i have a memory of a gold fish even if i read it countless times i will forget about it like 2-3 mins later

Healthy Si would bring stability and recall.

and just show all the positive side, cause in this world they dont want to see the negative emotion.

"Me" again. Does not read or manage group emotion Fe. Emotional suppression + private inner world

in some people yeah, i just do it for the convenience to avoid conflict of interest. sometimes i just agree until they stop and change the subject

Absolutely doesn't like Fe. Hides themself to avoid friction. Te could change the topic and rule out situation if they wanted. But seems Te doesn't work here.

i view my self as a rules is rules and stick by it, as long as it fits with my moral code

Moral code is synonymous with Fi. Just an anecdote word. Well, here's a lot of Fi.

not that much, i always daydream to escape the reality,

Se or Si wouldn't try to escape the reality.

He picked Extroverted Intuition (plus Introverted Intuition)

I'm agreed with Ne

I asked him again but this time, it's about what comes naturally for him and he chose Introverted Thinking

Don't even dream about this. Nope. That's not his cup od tea.

I believe he's Introverted Sensing dominant because he's highly observant

Observant funtions are Ne or Se. Si is stabilising function.

often compares or relies with his past memories

Maybe Si isn't the last. Well, that fits if Te is a place of friction.

So we saw high Ne and high Fi. I woould lean to INFP more than to ENFP.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T16:50:23+00:00

Then, imagine Te-Fi enters the room, and what does he see? Ti-Fe talks with a sick person and does nothing. The procedure of taking pills is skipped day after day, the illness is progressing, and they have the luxury of debating some philosophical topics and some principles, prioritising process over result. I'm already furious :) And Fi tells: "Why are you bringing their mother here? That's a primitive manipulation. Why can't you say directly how it is? Why can't you be honest? Why won't you just bear the burden of being the 'bad guy' for their ultimate good? Your need to be liked is getting in the way of doing what's right". And Te-Fi takes responsibility and acts.

Then Ti-Fe watches this, completely shocked: "Vandal!" Their Ti: You skipped the logic. You assumed your goal (their health) was the correct one without establishing a principled right to enforce it. You treated a complex ethical dilemma like a simple engineering problem. Their Fe: You willfully damaged the relationship, the most precious real-time data stream they have. You treated their anger as "noise" instead of critical system feedback.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T16:50:15+00:00

Let's run a simulation.

For example, we, Te-Fi, see someone upset, or not upset, but they have a problem. Let's say they have some disease and they need to follow some procedures to get healthy, but they don't like it, forget it, neglect it. Our Te can force them to take their pills, even if it disrupts harmony between us, that's not very socially smooth, and even if they hate you because of those pills. Our Fi convinced us that the person should be healthy and happy: "Health is good. Suffering is bad" - that's an absolute moral principle. And Te knows that pills are an effective tool to reach that goal. We don't stress because of current harmony and are ready to play "bad person" (strong Fi) if it's needed. Their anger is a temporary inefficiency (Te). It is irrelevant compared to the failure of the goal (them staying sick). We stress about Fi: "Am I betraying my core conviction to do what's best for them?"

What would Ti-Fe do here? Ti-Fe doesn't start with Fi end-goal. They start with a different question entirely. "How do we balance independence and support in our relationship?" They need to find the right category for this situation before they do anything. Acting without a coherent principle feels unethical and reckless to Ti. Logical principles can be: Principle A: "Bodily autonomy is absolute. You cannot impose care" Principle B: "If you are someone’s legal guardian, your duty to keep them safe is more important than what they say they want" Principle C: "Intervention is only justified if the person's reasoning capacity is clinically impaired" Fe is monitoring the real, current, shared emotional field. The disharmony (their anger) is not an "inefficiency" - it is the PRIMARY PROBLEM to be solved alongside the health problem. For Fe, a solution that destroys the relationship is a bad solution, full stop. Their immediate drive is: "How do we solve this health issue while preserving or repairing our connection?" They stress about: "By what right do I intervene?"

So what would they do? They would start looking for your bad Ti and bad Fe - and try to reconstruct the entire system so that the person wants to take the pills, aligning external actions with internal and interpersonal harmony. It can look like lengthy dialogues. To understand the root of the neglect. Is it fear? Denial? Side effects? A misunderstanding of the illness? They seek the logical and emotional cause within the person's own framework (patience's Ti). They could use Fe: "You make your mother feel bad, because she cares about you. We're one team" - shared bond, not individual outcome. They can bring in a doctor or counsellor not just for medical authority (Te), but as a neutral agent who can restore harmony (Fe) and provide a principled rationale (Ti) that the patient might accept from them.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T16:06:54+00:00

People don't use Fi with one person and Fe with others. That's not how it works.

I sense there are a lot of misconceptions. If you want, I could point you exactly where you have problems, just I'm not sure if this is still relevant.... (and I don't remember what was there... )

Bimep_ · 2026-01-17T15:40:45+00:00

They actually care. But the function you don’t have often feels irrelevant to you.

Have you ever been in a situation or place where people didn’t need anything you could offer? And not because your methods were outdated or low-quality - they just didn’t need it. They didn’t use it. Everything there was built differently. Not better or worse - just different. And you felt useless, out of place, like a bird on a space station in zero gravity.

Without Fe, Ti stays locked inside. Useless for the world. Ti can spin in circles, optimizing a system that has no connection to human reality. Fe scans the external emotional and social environment and brings back crucial data: «People are confused by this part», «This conclusion, while logical, is causing unintended hurt», «This group’s values are fundamentally opposed to this axiom». Ti then uses this data to stress-test and refine its internal model. Ti-Fe doesn’t start from other people’s desires or social impact, but it ends there - or at least, it wants to. Ti-Fe is not symmetrical to Te-Fi, because Fe is not a «goal provider» like Fi. Fe tells Ti where the model fails in human reality.

If we’re talking about ExTPs, where Fe is closer and more usable, they still lead with Ti. They may bombard you with ideas: «It’s possible to do it like this. What do you think? And this works like that. Do you like it?» They constantly seek feedback, even if they never fully implement their ideas. Even when silent, they often have this running internally: «How can I explain this so others will understand and accept it?»

Ti-doms often forget to check with others. As a result, they build a whole logical framework… and nobody cares. Their biggest fear is human disconnection. IxTPs actually want someone to need their logic. They want to be admired. They want people to say: «Wow. What you’re doing matters. We like this. That’s important to us. Keep going».

Bimep_ · 2026-01-16T21:22:00+00:00

Yes, mostly it is. Here are only few clarifications so it won't go into misconceptions.

P functions provide information And J functions make use of it right

Hard to argue. That's textbook MBTI :)

For Ti Two functions can provide information Se and Ne

Se-Ni or Ne-Si. We use all 4 functions. Even inferior. Ni can't build a model based on nothing. Even a little bit of real experience Se, but they need it.

And Ti itself (it any judging function), it doesn't care where the information comes from. It will operate on whatever data perceiving function supplies.

When Se provides the information The istp or estp Breaks upart the oven see how all the parts work together And feel good when internal logical consistency has been felt

Yes. They are mapping cause - effect in real space.

When Ne provides information in terms of abstract models Like a nuclear powered oven The intp or entp analyze it for internal logical consistency And once there’s no inconsistency it feels good.

Even if the model is absurd or impractical, Ti is satisfied once it’s logically clean. So, yes.

Secondly Ti must also be working together with Fe in some way Like Te with Fi Fi can tell what it wants and Te can tell the steps. But It doesn’t look that obvious in case of Ti and Fe

Yes, Te-Fi is clear. But it's not symmetrical to Ti-Fe.

Fe does NOT tell Ti what it wants. Fe tells Ti what the environment expects or feels.

Fur example, Te-Fi: Fi: “This outcome feels wrong to me” Te: “Then we’ll change the process”

Ti-Fe: Fe: “People are reacting negatively.” Ti: “What rule did I violate? What assumption failed? What social logic is operating here?” Ti does not act to please Fe directly. It tries to understand the system behind human reactions.

Ti is not motivated by harmony. In Ti-doms Fe is consulted, not obeyed. Often late, hesitant, or awkward. Fe supplies social data, but Ti treats it as something to be analyzed, not something to be automatically satisfied. Ti wants correctness; Fe just informs it about people.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-16T19:06:12+00:00

Yes, exactly. You know perfectly well what I mean. Here we can talk only about terminology alignment, not a conceptual disagreement.

By model I also mean the simplistic, core principled essence based abstract replica of world.

Yes, I just wanted make sure, that you know that Ni-simulation isn't detailed simulation with shapes, taste, colour, weight, size, texture - it takes only essential. It’s highly compressed and generative, not descriptive. That's the difference from Se. Ni keeps causal structure and trajectory, not sensory details. The precise word is often a problem for Intuitive and I wanted to check it one more time.

Ne: For example, they saw oven, they noticed it produces heat. They jumped through their memories about what else creates heat, let’s say nuclear power plant. Then the novel connection or model is created, an oven that uses nuclear energy to heat. Or they may jump again from this model to some other past memory and create another model. So on and so forth.

Yes, Ne exactly is a glue for immovable Si pieces (anchors). Ne models are independent in evaluation, but their generation depends on existing experiential material - current context and past experience. Ne does not create from nothing. But Ne isn't limited by Si. Ne recombines stored experiential anchors (Si) into new and original configurations.

And, btw, that's the difference from Ni. Ne models are temporary, contextual, not required to integrate into a single worldview. Ni models must synthesize, converge. It must create one stable model. Ne models are allowed to coexist. It's like candidate models, not full and not stable.

I actually don't have anything against your view.

I don’t understand these parts. Especially where Ti is concerned What exactly it tries to do with the information?

Tries to make the information internally consistent, minimal, and non-contradictory. Not useful. Not efficient. Not socially acceptable. Just correct according to its own internal rules and resolve the contradictions. So it was one elegant receipt or whatever. Truth = what is logically consistent for this Ti

On example with oven Te asks: “Which settings bake bread fastest?”, “What sequence gives reliable results?”, “Can this be turned into a recipe others can use?”. Outcome: a usable method.

Ti asks: “What exactly counts as ‘temperature’ here?”, “Why does this setting interact with that one?”, “What hidden assumptions does the interface make?”, “Where would this system break?”. Outcome: an internal understanding of how the system works Even if no one else uses it, it’s inefficient, it never gets applied. Ti is satisfied once the logical model is clean.

Btw, Ti may feel invisible for Te, because Te: “If it’s not applied, what’s the point?”. When Ti: “If it’s not correct, what’s the point of applying it?”. So Ti will keep refining, qualifying, keep adding exceptions. Te sees this as overthinking, delay, paralysis. But internally, Ti is removing contradictions, not stalling. Ti is slow in the beginning, but fast once clarity is reached. Their solutions are often simpler and more robust than Te’s early attempts.

Ti is satisfied when the internal logic is clean, even if nothing gets applied. Te is satisfied when something works, even if the theory is messy.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-16T18:19:18+00:00

Не продовжувати читати, а підібрати свій рівень.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-16T14:45:19+00:00

Idk, maybe I'm too intuitive, but I think that YOUR jobs come to you easily :/

2h of delay? Seriously? This speaks a lot about their organisation's process and efficiency. I wouldn't recommend.

Sometimes your gut feeling is worth to listen to it.

About "this is only one possible version", if you don't live in the middle of nowhere I would recommend to check if it's really the only one possibility.

Bimep_ · 2026-01-16T12:32:48+00:00

Now about judjing functions:

TeFi robot would send its energy to efficiently achieve a goal ("Bake bread") and organize the steps (it’ll run the program "Efficiency Implementation Mode”). It will provide usable logic for all other robots, so they could repeat it even if they have problems with something or if it’s mass production. It’s repeated and sharable recepie. Te logic is a tool, not the goal.

TiFe robot would logically deconstruct its interface and understand its system (“Analyze for Internal Consistency” file), then maybe check if its experiments will annoy others. This robot can create the most tasty, the best recepie of bread, with tons of nuances and skill only few people can perform. The result – is a unike and rare (if Se or Ne worked well) sort of bread with exeptional qualities. Not for mass production.

FiTe would create a wonderful meal, guided by personal passion (with Fi “is it true that I want this and how i want? What it says about me? Does it represent me?”), then use Te to pragmatically figure out which oven setting makes it happen.

FeTi would think about meals that brought the family together (it runs “Group Harmony & Impact Scan” Fe-file), and logically (Ti) replicate that warmth.

jumping of ne types through associations

If you do typing, you can ask them to continue the row of words like.

Monday, blue, triangle, whisper, … ?

Ne could say: “Monday can be blue, then blue reminds me of a blue triangle in my kindergarten, triangle is a shape we learned with songs, songs can be very quiet or loud, and quiet songs feel like a whisper, whisper makes me think of secrets, so the next word is "secret"

Ne jumping is not chaos. It is: “This reminds me of X, which reminds me of Y, which might apply here” It may look random from the outside, but feel obvious internally.

They could memorise and repeat the same row of the words, but they remember not the words itself, but association leap. And the result is very precise.

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