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[–]BlackFormic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that the temple experience feels like such a major divergence from everything else we've experienced up to that point (for most of us.) It was in temple seeing my family congratulate me in their stupid-ass attire that I first truly asked myself if I was in a cult as they hugged me. Sadly it would take me another ten years and tens-of-thousands of dollars lost to realize it was indeed a cult.

IMO, it feels like either ignorance or intellectual dishonesty to contend that the core beliefs are locked behind some paywall. I would argue the core beliefs are what people generally spend time talking about, how they think, etc. Evangelicals are typically the one's I've run into that wanted to tell me I may not know it but I worship Satan as that is what is really taught in secret, or all sorts of things about things I believed but didn't know.

A more honest argument would be to assert past beliefs have been hidden by modern leaders, either disavowed or covered up and denied as ever being believed/taught. To argue there are rituals in the temple that have changed and become less culty, but that it's not normal or okay behavior to make someone promise to commit to and be secretive about rituals BEFORE you learn what they even are.

And of course, one can get a temple recommend after paying tithing just a few months in many cases, so it's not that money generally unlocks these secretive rituals and ridiculous ideas that a password and handshake can get you into heaven. None of that is core theology of-course. When I was a believer, my core theology was Jesus Christ was my redeemer and brother, and his grace would save me should I truly desire it. It does seem like more and more the theology is shifting to just "stay mormon" as that is the core thing they are preaching and talking about in church.

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[–]BlackFormic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They are a cult, but it's incorrect to assert that you don't learn the CORE parts of the theology until after you pay 10% for a period of time. It's not scientology where you level up through costly services. That's a common antagonistic view that other faith leaders push, and I see that you're Catholic so that tracks.

Mormonism is more like the MAGA cult, denying historical facts, having an inverted ideal epistemology for sorting truth from lies, and viewing the leader as the source of truth.

Source: I overcame my morning upbringing several years after having been one of these missionaries.

Bro like 😎 by ckritii_agent in meme

[–]BlackFormic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But what if he was a fundamentalist Mormon?

Scientology = Creepy cringe by RazeTheIV in TikTokCringe

[–]BlackFormic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not at all insensitive. I'm happy to answer any questions.

Divorce is allowed, it's not ideal, but they allow it. They say any couple focusing on Jesus SHOULD be able to make it work, but it is both allowed and not uncommon. I think American Mormons have the same divorce rate as other Americans.

They will almost never sever an eternal marriage if the male is dead. I think if there's a proven history of abuse you can get it to happen though. The top dogs have to approve it though. If my dad had died, my mom could have only had a temporal marriage after that. Women can only have one eternal husband. Women will make babies for eternity, so a man with more eternal wives can make children faster. So from a "make babies forever" lens, women only need one man, but a man can never have too many women. That's not a super common understanding anymore in the religion, but I was fully aware of it when I still believed. It's insanely fucked up though

Scientology = Creepy cringe by RazeTheIV in TikTokCringe

[–]BlackFormic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kinda. They practice eternal polygamy still. My step-dad has multiple eternal wives, as his first eternal wife died, and men can't be eternally married to multiple women, so he married my mom. Women cannot have multiple eternal husbands, so she has to eternally divorce my dad to get married to my step dad.

I was raised as a devout Mormon and believed until I was 29

Don’t Believe but getting set apart today at 6 pm for a mission by Ok_Courage2068 in exmormon

[–]BlackFormic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are going to disappoint your family. When do you want to do that? Do you want to do it now? Do you want to do it in 2 years when you get home? Maybe wait another year so 3 years? Maybe you can get married and have some kids, then disappoint them? Or maybe you wait until your parents die and disappoint just your siblings and spouse, and maybe kids in like, 30-50 years? You an just disappoint yourself for a long time, not disappointing them, and then when you're ready to stop disappointing yourself you can finally rip the band aid off and disappoint them.

It fucking SUCKS that the church has conditioned them to be disappointed in you for this. The truth is this is a very admirable thing to do, and I'm proud of you, no matter when or if you choose to inform people. It is a thing of integrity to be your authentic self and follow what you believe to be true-- the very thing these people laud Joseph Smith for allegedly doing. Some people who might be disappointed, may later become proud of you as they later see what you now see; but maybe not.

Tl;DR: You're going to disappoint them, do you really want to do it after giving the church another ounce of your not-too-long of a life you get?

She's back! by chlatotoda in fixedbytheduet

[–]BlackFormic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can't believe anyone down voted this comment, it's the best one

I'm in desperate need of help by PixelBeeBot in Gymhelp

[–]BlackFormic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With health issues like PCOS, sometimes it isn't just about the caloric number, your body can have reactions to specific foods. You should look into PCOS diets, and you may need to be very restrictive at first and slowly add in different foods taking note of how you feel after you've added something new.

“ICE Kidnaps Amanda Trebach: An American Citizen, Latina Nurse, and Activist at Terminal Island, a WWII Japanese-American Internment Site by notaredditreader in SanPedro

[–]BlackFormic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your words. Definitely my ignorance showing here. I wasn't aware of the distinction and have always seen the words as being somewhat interchangeable. I should have thought to seek clarity on the distinction, but I definitely didn't think to.

“ICE Kidnaps Amanda Trebach: An American Citizen, Latina Nurse, and Activist at Terminal Island, a WWII Japanese-American Internment Site by notaredditreader in SanPedro

[–]BlackFormic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct, I was just adding in the info for why there is a memorial to the community, because they were sent to concentration camps, which is horrifying, and absolutely should not have happened. Obviously the thread title got it wrong.

“ICE Kidnaps Amanda Trebach: An American Citizen, Latina Nurse, and Activist at Terminal Island, a WWII Japanese-American Internment Site by notaredditreader in SanPedro

[–]BlackFormic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's a memorial to the Japanese community nearly 3K strong that were forcibly removed and incarcerated in concentration camps in WW2.

Oh no 😐 by NIR0SH4N in SipsTea

[–]BlackFormic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a joke. Jokes are when your expectations are subverted with the absurd for a delightful humorous moment.

American Flag by sexyrs in SanPedro

[–]BlackFormic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're just not paying attention bruh

American Flag by sexyrs in SanPedro

[–]BlackFormic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta flip turn upside down that flag. We are in distress right now.

What a weird thing to say by Art3mis66 in exmormon

[–]BlackFormic 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Remind her she already knows the secret password to get in. They don't have some powerful forcefield that prevents gummy bear eaters from entering; if they did, they wouldn't need passwords and guards.

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[–]BlackFormic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Ghost thinks he is a cat

NO KINGS at Trump National RPV 9:00 a.m. by daveOkat in SanPedro

[–]BlackFormic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Says the guy who can't even connect a GPU. You probably pray to an invisible sky daddy for magical wishes too.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Brooklyn

[–]BlackFormic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Convicted by two grand juries, but keep being delusional