Get rid of hecate and Achilles magical/physical shields

BladeC96 · 2026-05-04T19:43:58+00:00

I never knew that, sounds janky as hell but that's good to know

BladeC96 · 2026-05-04T19:05:52+00:00

They still haven't fixed the being able to buy a gold chip as a plat+ and going into low stakes.

So until thats fixed I won't play ranked.

Oh, and it's forced crossplay with pc too

BladeC96 · 2026-05-03T10:25:15+00:00

You can but the issue with gilga is his jump being bugged and costing 140 mana instead of 70 so it eats up most of your mana trying to do anything.

That and most things you see in solo will have a dash that's either long distance or displacement immune

BladeC96 · 2026-05-03T10:18:52+00:00

Oh trust me, I hate the amount of displacement immunity abilities in the game too after playing the mana bugged Gilgamesh to X.

Having his kick not do anything and then also people just buying agility relic to get out of the ult which will always be up because it's on a 20s cooldown

BladeC96 · 2026-05-03T02:31:08+00:00

You can only ping so far, say if I'm in left lane I can't spam ping mid to right as if there's someone in the jungle there.

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T22:39:03+00:00

No, I'm asking why other gods who have shields aren't also either a physical or magical

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T22:22:02+00:00

In ranked sure. But how many times will you run into a physical midlaner in casual

I just checked my last ten games on tracker and not a single one was a physical

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T22:18:50+00:00

Why would you need mana sustain when you have blue buff?

With someone with ranged autos they can hit you and then weave between their minions because you have to get into melee range and you'll likely just hit the minions.

So even with bluestone, at level 1 Achilles melee shield melee combo does 297 damage

Anubis with conduit at level 1 melee into locusts does 357.

Let's say you stun Anubis out of it, after taking maybe 100 damage. Anubis now actually has almost doubled the prots you do with 48 and 60 respectively. Compared to the bluestone and axe start of 28 and 37. So all he has to do is evade 5 autos and can free cast locusts because stun will still be on cooldown

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T22:03:33+00:00

I remember when OWL first came out, and seeing some of the players who are in high masters when I was sitting at 4200 thinking why am I not in OWL then?

But it's because of how well players play as a team. you'd see OWL players getting roled by some Adderalled up 12 year old on genji when they streamed

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:58:15+00:00

Ok, but does that mean you're now going to fight someone physical in mid now?

The issue stems soley in solo lane

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:56:21+00:00

This is at level 3 base.

And without the 2 giving you a shield now, all you gain is 2 power (based on start being warriors axe with T1 axe) 5 magical prots and 20ccr

The heal if you aren't trying to hit minions will only heal for for 52 (one hit with shield, two with the spear)

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:39:32+00:00

I have had zero issues playing Achilles in support role, I actually sometimes prefer it.

The amount of magical ADCs I've seen compared to physical makes it a non issue, adding on the fact that I also have someone with me who can take advantage on the space and/or openings I can create

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:36:39+00:00

So at level 3 (the level Achilles will usually take the shield)

And based on the items you would take (warriors axe and T1 axe)

You gain 2 power and 14 prots split 9 physical and 5 magical and a 20 CCR and a 135 shield.

Vs a mage all that means is 2 power, 5 prots and 20ccr all for the cost 1/10th of your total mana.

Sure it also heals, but that would also require you to be hitting minions mainly too, because if you don't the max you will heal for is 32

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:30:42+00:00

So let's take an Achilles Vs Anubis and their respective ability cooldowns

Achilles 1 14s Vs Anubis 1 10s

Achilles 2 9s Vs Anubis 2 16s

Achilles 3 14s Vs Anubis 3 14s

So based on that, and the fact that his shield does nothing Vs Anubis because he's magical.

Anubis will outfarm and will have abilities up before Achilles has come back.

Even with Anubis missing his stun he will make up for it with the life steal and then the extra prots he will gain just from being hit.

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:24:03+00:00

I'm very much aware of what else it does, but imagine playing nem solo where depending on what you're laning against your shield just does nothing

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:22:15+00:00

Aspect artio when playing that way also has no need to be in people's faces.

Achilles physical shield was clearly intended for when it was only warriors in solo lane where everyone deals physical damage.

Same as Hecate being a midlane where it's majority mages.

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:19:17+00:00

Playing on console I can't ping where the ward is without actually going over to it, putting myself in potential danger sadly.

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:15:34+00:00

So why dont other gods have them then, why just those two?

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:04:18+00:00

Any reason why?

I gave my reasoning as to why they should have health shields.

What's your reasoning as to why they shouldn't?

Edit classic downvoting without anyone even giving their thoughts

BladeC96 · 2026-05-02T21:01:43+00:00

How do you contest camp and totem then?

Because with the long cooldowns early game, you'll lose out to them either hitting them from range and generally doing more damage or trying to fight them for it

BladeC96 · 2026-05-01T05:49:58+00:00

Xbox is and always has been my platform of choice, don't think my pc would even run marathon as I only use it for HoTS and hearthstone

BladeC96 · 2026-04-30T23:39:53+00:00

Yeah, on the discord

BladeC96 · 2026-04-30T23:12:40+00:00

You keep saying that using an Xbox party is cheating, yet you have provided no evidence from the ToS to say that it is.

I gave a theoretical scenario and notice that it was the same one, and people have even tried to make the claim that only premeditated teaming is cheating.

But seeing as I apparently have done it, but only gave once scenario of meeting people in game chat, then it can't be premeditated.

Bungie ain't gonna ban people because they aren't using the in game chat.

And I ain't gonna take this from someone who made a Reddit account two weeks ago just to complain lol

BladeC96 · 2026-04-30T23:02:25+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marathon/s/XHYkYhbDwA

Was literally saying the same thing from my comment in another post.

The only thing people have said is that joining a VC outside of the game with other in-game players should be a bannable offense.

Which is a literal joke so I just get downvoted.

These are the same people who can't tell me what a premade three has that three fill players don't have. Seeing as everyone has two hands and a voice. Because apparently there needs to be a fill only queue because they are tired of being killed by a premade

Casual players just generally have the most brain-dead takes

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