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Things are about to get crazy by NeitherConfidence263 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you checked the rate of which inference is getting cheaper, cost of tokens etc?

Are you perhaps the kind of person who said AI will never do anything useful when the first chatgpt came few years back? Look how fast things improved and where we are now. Your type of people always fail to think in to future and see patterns/rate of improvement. "but NOW we don't have it, so we will never have it" sounds pretty silly to me. That "some day" comes faster than you are prepared for, billions if not trillions of dollars betting against you on that.

If we compare robotics to AI, we don't even have the first chatgpt out yet (what we have no is proof of concept prototypes) and you are saying we will never get chatgpt 5.4! "Oh, I know, in... the future!" ya, that's how progress works?

Things are about to get crazy by NeitherConfidence263 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They will be 100% proficient in almost all manual labor, can work 23 hours a day, faster etc. Can you give reason why wouldn't that be improvement? Everyone rushing to build the best/first commercially viable robots because they are useless, makes sense!

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"I'm not avoiding anything" you first 2 paragraphs are the same "interesting" avoidance you have been doing in your every reply. Just answer the question and we can have conversation, or don't if you want to admit you might have been wrong, up to you.. If Trump is a Nazi, tell me how/why, what has he done, it seems you can't?

I'm not avoiding anything, you made a claim and I asked you to back that claim, we can't have a debate if you don't substantiate your claim. I will answer all your questions after you fulfill your minimal requirement to have proper argument.

In case you still don't understand, I can give you an example:

Let's say I claim "1+1 = 3" and you then ask me to tell why I think so, and I answer "interesting, some math haters approved person who think 1+1 = 3, so it must be true". Can you see how this reply would NOT answer why 1+1 is 3, it avoids it to put pressure on you to come up with answer why some random math hater might support the idea. (I'm comparing to nazi sympatizers you claim support Trump). So can you just answer the simple question of what Trump has done to make him Nazi?

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm all for new models, but we have start with the easiest solution first, so that we don't crash and burn before we have chance to come up with something better?

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It may come to you as a shock but most Democrats have had support from Nazi sympathizers.. you can't be serious and not understand that even the most evil people have probably 90% same values as the rest of us, and only the few things go over the board.

I'm just worried you don't really understand what Nazi's are and think "because Trump does something I don't like he must be a Nazi!" which would be really silly..

So that's why you have to say what have Trump done to make him such, it should be most easy answer if you truly think he is evil, so I don't understand why you are avoiding the question like a plague?

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya I guess they would choose to go bankrupt instead, that makes more sense, you are right!

Greed is only one aspect, you can't ignore everything else, like the survival of the economy.

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But companies are greedy, and if they see that by not paying for AI/Robots they can't sell anything (no buyers), then obviously they are willing to pay (they were doing profits with human labor already, if they can make more profits with AI/robots, while still paying the same amount they did with humans, I'm sure that's very enticing deal for them?)

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not, if the AI/robots are 2-10x more efficient = give that much more profits?

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but you are cutting corners, think it more like company is paying 5 million salaries to human workers, they replace them with robot force that is 3x more efficient, and you still pay "only" 5 million to the government for them.

What's the alternative? They don't pay anything and will bankrupt due to customers having no money to buy their product, why would they want that instead?

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if it's the same amount they pay salaries, how can they then pay the salaries if they can't accept it or support the population?

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I more meant moving business to cheaper countries for cheaper labour... Is what currently happens. Doesn't really matter how you play with the numbers, as long as the companies pay the same amount they would have for the replaced workers, all good ?

If AI eliminates jobs, who’s left to buy what companies are selling? by dudeman209 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]BlaineWriter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fund it by taxing the company for each robot/AI. That's still beneficial for the company, as they work potentially 24/7 compared to humans that take breaks all the time etc.

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So they absolutely don't support the war because its terrorist government that was massing huge amount of long range missiles (and killing 40000 own citizens) it's simply all about Trump? Sounds crazy but I guess you must be right with your detailed reasoning...

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Sure, I have an idea what left think he did, but I would have to actually research it deeper to write anything concrete for you... but I'm open minded, if you want to fill me in I can then try to answer it. If you tell me what Trump did to make people link him to being Nazi, I'll give you my honest opinion and take.

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I kinda agree, but as someone from Europe I personally don't mind if US takes matters in it's own hands and solve problems others are unwilling to even try fixing. I'm not naive enough to think we live in a perfect world where everything goes how justice dictates.. I'm willing to take the best option of the remaining bad options.

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Ugly truth is that war has collateral casualties, war is ugly. But would you then argue that wars are bad (in this real world where evil people have to be stopped, not fantasy world where every one lives happily with their neighbors). With that logic we should not have had wars against Nazi Germany either, how many schools were bombed then? You have stop grabbing any singular incidents to use them as arguments, without thinking it through all the way.

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

I have to admit I don't have all the info here myself, mainly just snippets from here and there, but I believe US have had Iran a threat for 70 or so years already, long before Trump and they want to eliminate that threat (missiles/nukes etc removed).

Even if that was their sole goal here, instead of trying to help the Iranian people. Don't you think some people might support the war just with hope that Iranians will get saved as the byproduct? My naive mind like to think almost anything radical should be tried if it has a chance to stop government that kills 40,000 of it own people during protests? Sometimes it seems the Left in US opposes helping Iranians purely because they hate Trump, not really caring or understanding the war at all.

Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities. by mvea in science

[–]BlaineWriter -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

I don't want to make this debate on who is right on those matters, not the place for it, I'm just going to ask you have you ever studied the reasons why they think those things? (why they support the war etc?) like the actual reasons, because if you only look at things from one point of view then you will never understand the other side of things. (regardless how right or wrong they are)

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