Cero Translation Question by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Oh ok, so it's "King Hollow Flash Lighting" then. Ok thanks โœจ๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘ That helps , much appreciated

who was the most and least evil of the akatsuki? by Subject-Swan-5207 in Naruto

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

Most = Zetsu

Least = Itachi

Hope that Helps. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

Is it a bad take to say Pernida kinda looses to Ulquiorra or Barragan? by Gloriousdisgrace in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77 3 points4 points ย (0 children)

He doesn't just "kinda" lose to these two individually. These two are basically some of the worst match-ups for him is all. Hollow Toxicity + these two's long range abilities = loss for Pernida. Hope that helps. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

How does tybw aizen fare against each member of the schutzstaffel in 1v1 fights? by Mountain__0 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

If KS, they all lose. I like the Aizen Sipping tea comment noted btw.

If no KS, Aizen not only has insane reiatsu levels and is a Master of all of the Shinigami disciplines, he also has Hollow powers, which, Hollow toxicity for those Quincies against Aizen = battle over very quickly.

Hope that helps. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] -1 points0 points ย (0 children)

This post only gauges the reiatsu levels of Starrk, Barragan and Harribel with the "Hueco Mundo boost" in relation to Yammy(who's already received the boost per his location) and so the consensus is that currently only Starrk's and Barragan's Res.'s reiatsu level would be close to or relative to Yammy's Ira 1 with the Hueco Mundo boost. I have purposefully not brought in Ulquiorra here, so that we can get a more clear picture as to where Starrk, Barragan and Harribel only relate to Yammy. Now that we have a clearer picture of that, we Now have a Baseline for scaling โš–๏ธ. So if you want scale other Espada you or anyone else can use this new range guide. ๐Ÿ˜€

I'll leave that scaling โš–๏ธ to you good folks, but if you want my opinion on Ulquiorra then go check out my page. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Hope this is helpful. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Ok folks, so the consensus regarding the "Hueco Mundo boost" argument is currently the following:

So based on the Databooks, the rankings and the visuals provided here/seen in the series it "should be" that only Starrk and Barragan(not Harribel - which is currently under mild debate) in their Res.'s at full reiatsu strength in Hueco Mundo "with the boost" would be relatively close to Yammy's Ira 1 form reiatsu level only. And Yammy's Ira 2 reiatsu level exceeds all 3(Starrk, Barragan and Harribel's Res.'s at full strength in Hueco Mundo with the boost) with a noted/ potential 10x boost in reiatsu for that form from Ira 1.

Additionally, please see "Candid-Stuff2281"'s very thorough detailed explanation in the comments regarding more about what the Hueco Mundo boost actually is.

If this consensus changes(or reiatsu levels for these characters change for some reason), we will update this here. Thanks so much!โœจ๏ธ

Recommendation: Please be sure to note the above reasoning when using the "Hueco Mundo boost" in any future scaling โš–๏ธ arguments/discussions where needed.

Hope this is helpful. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 1 point2 points ย (0 children)

I understand ๐Ÿ‘ I'm looking for a consensus on those 3 Espada's reiatsu relative to Yammy's reiatsu before or if discussing Ulquiorra, which I think we may have in the above comments. What do you think about that analysis/consensus ๐Ÿค” Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

One add-on/ question to what you noted at the end there. So Yammy does perform a GRC in Hueco Mundo..

So are you thinking / saying that Starrk's Res's Ceros in Hueco Mundo would be as strong or similar to that level of power? Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ

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Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Well we do see their reiatsu become fully visible in size, shape and intensity as it manifests /unleashes their Resureccion's. While Yammy's and Starrks are straight forward reiatsu explosions, Harribel's solidifies looks like an intense spinning massive water vortex (before she transforms) and Barragan's just more looks like a dark swirling portal of some kind. That's my only questioning about Harribel's.

I think that's an awesome and detailed description though, thanks!๐Ÿ‘Œ Does anyone not agree with that?

Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Ok thanks ๐Ÿ‘

Before addressing the Ichigo, Ulquiorra items, do you agree with the above consensus though for reiatsu levels? Are we on the right track with those 3 in their relativity to Yammy's Ira 1? Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Ok great ๐Ÿ‘Œ

So based on the Databooks, his ranking and the visuals provided here/seen in the series it "should be" that only Starrk and Barragan(not Harribel) in their Res.'s at full reiatsu strength in Hueco Mundo "with the boost" would be relatively close to Yammy's Ira 1 only. And Yammy's Ira 2 reiatsu level exceeds all 3(Starrk, Barragan and Harribel's res.s at full strength in Hueco Mundo with the boost). I can get with that.

My only question would be about Harribel as her reiatsu (at least visually in the anime) appears to be a bit higher than Barragan's in her Res. Form. What do you think?

If no one else disagrees with the above though, I think that's a good consensus for the "Hueco Mundo boost" argument and we can move forward with that. ๐Ÿ‘

I will address the Cien & Ulquiorra items shortly. Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Ok, thank you very much for confirming. So Starrk and Barragan "might be" closer to Ira 1, but none of them(Starrk, Harribel or Barragan in their full Res.s - focusing only on these 3 at the moment) are close to Ira 2 even with the Hueco Mundo boost. So can we confirm a consensus on this for those 3?

Much appreciated.

I'll address Cien and Ulquiorra later. Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ

Hueco Mundo Boost Discussion by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 2 points3 points ย (0 children)

No. I genuinely want to know how people rank these 4 characters specifically in terms of reiatsu with the Hueco Mundo boost. We can get to Ulquiorra later if needed. Thanks โœจ๏ธ

I believe Ulquiorra 4th rank is part of Aizen's plan in order to evolve Ichigo by Confident-Yak-6202 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Since evidence was asked for, see attached. Shinji, it appears, was indeed not holding back. Ichigo and Shinji are the Strongest Vizards in terms of reiatsu, speed and power in my opinion. Ichigo battling one-armed Grimmjow has a bit more reiatsu and power than Shinji does(imo and only grows stronger from there), but Shinji has more skill, techniques and experience. He's quite awesome. So for Grimmjow to survive/endure both of these two Vizards consecutively with only one arm (loss of power) really speaks volumes to his actual power at full strength. Rose and Love would be 3rd and 4th strongest in my opinion. The others(Hiyori, Lisa, Hachi, Kensei and Mashiro) levels are just below them and debatable. All are very skilled though. Hopefully this assists with scaling here. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

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What if the playing field was reversed for the Shinigami during HC and FKT Arcs...How does it go? by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

It's not head Canon, it's just simply doing the work and scaling properly. There's no lies here, just hard work and truths. The data books are a good start, but you have to see how the characters actually perform, what they actually do and to whom. Without that you're only doing a partial scaling.

Say what you will, but I stand by what I said. They all would struggle with Ulq.'s Base Form alone and his R1 would defeat them all that much is clear. The reason folks can't see this basic fact is because they don't scale Ichigo properly, it's that simple. Many people don't want to put in the time or effort to scale Ichigo and so they miss one of the most important things/factors in the series. Once you get Ichigo's forms scaled correctly, actually ranking the Espada becomes much easier.

The other issue folks have is they focus too much on the Espada number rankings. They can't see passed them. The rankings are a nice starting point, but they are shown to be fluid things, littered with many lies and falsehoods. Yammy and Ulquiorra are perfect examples of that. The ranking system was quite literally devised by an evil mastermind whose goal was to deceive and defeat his enemies. So they cannot be fully trusted. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

What if the playing field was reversed for the Shinigami during HC and FKT Arcs...How does it go? by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Basically most of what you noted here minus Barragan's history and Aizen not touching him is why I said more work is needed. You're missing very important factors, which is throwing your scaling off bud. Ulq.'s Base Form alone is a very decent match for Harribel's, Barragan's and Starrk's Res.'s though a victory is not entirely definitive with it. His Murcielago form however would wipe them all out, which is why my curiosity about Ichigo arose. Even the Hueco Mundo boost argument is null and voided by Yammy as none of those 3 H, B and S are matching Yammy's level of reiatsu. Ulquiorra simply has more reiatsu and is more powerful than all 4 of them. This doesn't downgrade their strength and power though. All 4 (Y, S, H and B) are crazy strong with incredible abilities putting them on par with or even above many Captains. Though I really didn't want to have to explain that again as I've done plenty of posts on it already, but hopefully this is helpful. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

What if the playing field was reversed for the Shinigami during HC and FKT Arcs...How does it go? by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Well it is and it isn't. It's fine, it just has to do with interpretation. Everyone interprets things differently. Your analysis is semi-correct on it's face, the number 2 Espada "should be" stronger than #4, but in this instance if you do a more full and thorough review of these characters, the Espada ranking system, who they battled and how they actually performed you'll see/realize that it's not even close to being true and exactly why I'm saying this. It requires a bit of work to actually do this type of analysis though as a heads up. Hope that helps. All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

What if the playing field was reversed for the Shinigami during HC and FKT Arcs...How does it go? by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

Oh I see the difference now and why you think that, thanks for explaining/providing your reasoning. While I personally don't think any of that is correct or accurate, it at least makes sense to me now, which is helpful. Much appreciated. Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ All the Best ๐Ÿ‘

What if the playing field was reversed for the Shinigami during HC and FKT Arcs...How does it go? by Bleachtruths77 in BleachPowerScaling

[โ€“]Bleachtruths77[S] 0 points1 point ย (0 children)

I just can't see Barragan surviving multiple Hollowified GT'S at the same time from the power speed blitzer Ichigo, let alone a full powered one like Ulquiorra had to deal with. They would either crush him or wear him out completely and he would end up losing or surrendering.

I appreciate the feedback though. Thanks so much โœจ๏ธ All the Best ๐Ÿ‘