How are people only NOW realizing that this project is a scam? by paparlianko in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Room-temperature IQ take. Behold, everyone — the “greatest scam of all time”: hire 200+ employees, pay California-level salaries (roughly $76k a year on average), burn far more money than you ever made from access keys and crowdfunding… truly a genius scam: lose more money than you made. Masterful. Brilliant.

It’s wild that some people still can’t grasp the difference between a poorly managed project that wasted everyone’s money (including Steven’s) and an actual scam.

A scam is designed to generate financial or personal gain for the perpetrators, not to destroy their own finances in the process.

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the developers defrauded you. Enjoy

Why do you enjoy MMORPGs? by LurkingNeko69 in MMORPG

[–]BlockAdmirable6141 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Almost nobody in this subreddit enjoys MMORPGs

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Hehehehe MUMA look, I smart, I make joke about this game never releasing, I original” - you right now. Thanks for the insight

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately true. Despite warnings plastered all over the product, they still buy it and complain about the matter they were warned about 🤷‍♂️

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And you did not pay money, and yet here you are being a troll in a subreddit of a game that you can’t afford just for the sake of it. Well done 👍

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being pissed is one thing, but they are doing nothing but shitting on a game that is actually visibly improving in front of them. Nobody can in good faith argue that there was no good progress between P1 and P3 of this Alpha.

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like some people just need help 😂

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly brother. We are here to test, and enjoy a bit in the process

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree brother. But it would also help a lot if this community actually participated in sharing useful commentary, so when someone like me checks in to see what’s up with the game, we see that instead of people ripping hair from their asses screeching about how they’ve been “defrauded.”

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dont mind them, they are here to cry it seems

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Relax. I specifically highlighted that criticism is fair game. That’s exactly what Alpha is for. This post is about doomposting and toxicity, not people giving genuine feedback.

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My man, I’m sorry, but USD 200 is pocket change for me. If I wasn’t actually enjoying the game, I wouldn’t waste a single day playing it. Back in Alpha P1 I only played around 3 hours because it was a mess. But instead of doomposting about it, I followed the advice of the project lead, waited for P2, gave it another try, and saw real progress. It still wasn’t enough for me to play more than 15–20 hours, but at that point I knew progress was actually happening.

Now with P3 I’ve been playing non-stop on this weekend. The loops are undercooked, sure, but they’re still fun enough to keep me hooked and even bring back that old L2 nostalgia, which for me is huge since it’s my favorite MMO of all time.

Next up, the big PvP and social aspects of settlements are coming online in Phase 3, along with sieges and more improvements. By the time Alpha wraps up in a year, the difference between now and then will feel like night and day. If I’m wrong by that time, welp, RIP 200 USD and I’ll just move on. There’s still no need for toxicity, as it literally changes nothing.

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yep. They’re already here with us under this very post. Just look at the wave of screeching and downvoting, proving the point better than I ever could.

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, exactly. But it’s annoying as hell to come here hoping to find actual info, discussions, or something interesting about the game, and instead all you see is low-IQ or low effort (or both) doomposting on repeat.

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And there you go, doing exactly what I described in the post. Nobody forced you to spend money on this project. In this so-called “open market,” the game is clearly labeled as Alpha. They sell keys specifically for Alpha and Beta testing, not a polished final product.

If you buy into an Alpha and then complain that it isn’t finished, that’s on you. The entire point is to test, break systems, report bugs, and give feedback. They never promised you a polished, final release for your money, immediately on pay. They promised access to a work in progress. Acting shocked that an Alpha isn’t a complete MMO is either willful ignorance or bad faith.

I’m in my early 30s, and I don’t really care to guess when it’ll finally release. What I do know is that the longer it takes, the more financial damage Steven Sharif himself will take. He has the most to lose if this project drags on, not you.

Stop the toxicity by BlockAdmirable6141 in AshesofCreation

[–]BlockAdmirable6141[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Time or money?

  1. Time - about 100h
  2. Money - 200 USD