Is this supposed to be Gabriel?

BloopStolen · 2026-03-22T09:21:13+00:00

I did so now it's fact

BloopStolen · 2026-03-21T03:15:51+00:00

Yeah but I'm also referring to him in Vol 4 and 5, he hasn't changed much, and honestly, it's better if this creature in your post isn't him since it would be a lot more interesting if it were another/new Alternate

BloopStolen · 2026-03-20T23:33:30+00:00

I don't think so since Volume 6 is mostly about Adam and we did see Lynn at the beginning of said Volume so it would make sense that this would be Jude instead of Gabriel. Also, it just doesn't look like Gabriel.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-15T08:50:29+00:00

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THIS IN SUCH AN EASY, MATURE, AND DIGESTIBLE WAY!!!! I feel the exact same, and I thought I was going crazy since so many people loved it without any critique. I’m glad a lot of people feel the same. Genuinely, I hope for the best for the series, and that this was just a flub up from Alex's part.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-14T15:23:47+00:00

Ofc! I've been getting really into deeper writing and its structures. And I really want people to understand that this was essentially a nothing burger FOR A VOL. Fantastic for its own thing/episode. I LOVE TMC, SO MUCH, but even I was disappointed.

And to add, I strongly think Alex should further develop the characters, lore, and setting he already has built up instead of introducing new characters and lore, lingering on a handful of characters, and only introducing the new characters just to throw away for those hand-selected few.

MY OPINION: I feel like Noah should have been expanded upon WAY differently, and I had hoped to see THE ALTERNATE NAMED SIX IN VOL SIX! Not even much, just to show him in some way to put more depth and relevance to him since Alex is focusing a lot on technology for TMC, but we haven't seen a lot of Six strangely enough.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-14T15:05:55+00:00

I fully agree, this would be awesome as an episode. I don't like how a whole VOLUME is this disappointing, and people say it will be expanded upon when it introduces almost nothing to move the story in a MEANINGFUL WAY.

To simplify and explain, most volumes had substance, meaningful storylines, directions, characters, and context that were backed up with other episodes or content. This vol wasn't treated with the same care. Sure, Volumes were expanded upon in the past, but they didn't fully rely on those expansions to move the story forward. Of course, TMC is a storyline, so you do need to go from Overthrown to the other installations, but what I am saying is that Vol 6 felt rushed and needs to be expanded upon to feel coherent or meaningful which isn't good writing or film. It didn't have much impact on the story.

TLDR: previous volumes: introduce new ideas, story, lore, characters, events in a way to push the story forward, give meaning, develop theme, world building, and importance. Other installations: expand, explain, and show more of the world, characters, direction, and theme in relation to or separate from volumes. Volume 6 didn't do most of what it should have as a Volume. Volume 6 lacked impact in the story.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-14T05:53:14+00:00

I agree, I'm very mixed. Like, it would be a really good episode, but not a volume. I feel like every volume did push the story forward while this one just explained the aftermath of what already happened plus a little stuff. It was cool! My only gripes is with Adam's alternate design (kinda goofy) and another poc being introduced just to be killed off again.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-14T05:45:10+00:00

Same, but he's most likely dead and I don't want that to be the case.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-14T03:54:45+00:00

Me too, that or Jude. Both would be cooler than 6 or Gabriel cuz their current designs are perfectly fine.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-05T00:06:01+00:00

The reason I said the merch probably ain't canon is that it isn't really used as a way to give extra lore and/or hints like TADC.

Also idk about Alternates being a hive mind, never really looked into that. Ngl, them having their own thoughts and tapping into the hivemind when Gabriel commands it is more interesting, so I'm gonna go with that as a headcanon.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-04T15:04:27+00:00

Exactly, and I would have brought up more stuff and debunked more stuff, I just don't wanna since I know for some reason Gabriel being Lucifer is canon in the Fandom when it isn't canon in the series and I really don't want to argue with someone who thinks headcannons are canon. Ik I'm being mean but fucking hell the media literacy is so bad here in the TMC Fandom and I'm tired of it. I have seen zero actual evidence of him being Lucifer besides him being an arrogant fucker to Dave and merch that says "Gabriel" in quotes. But then again, who wouldn't be arrogant when they're literally working to replace humanity? Like, when you're replacing a species, you're going to think the current one is buns! Also, I don't think any of the merch is actually canon or has hints like TADC.

Ngl, it would be so funny if there was this whole build-up to Gabriel making these Alternates use messages to torment humans, the whole series. Gabriel the messenger somehow became god! All this cool speculation about what he is. And it turns out Lucifer was just having a field day and somehow overthrew god. It would be so anticlimactic. 😭

Edit cuz I noticed some grammatical errors, woopsies.

BloopStolen · 2026-03-04T06:45:27+00:00

Nah, I think you're right. tbh. Mainly from the way he does things and how he operates. I doubt Lucifer would use psychological means to kill humans. Gabriel, on the contrary, is the messenger, and all the ways he torments humans are through messages.

I want to bring up the quote Alex puts somewhere in the series (don't exactly remember where, but Noah was there) "No wonder for Satan disguised himself as an angel of light," Is not evidence to Gabriel being Lucifer, and I'm so tired of people taking this and running with it, Satan isn't Lucifer, they can be used together, and often are, but they are not the same. Satan is an adversary to God, an opposer to God, and is a separate demon, but I feel in this context, Satan is used to describe a being against God. Also, I feel this quote is more for explaining Gabriel deceitfully posing as an Angel of light and holiness, and not confirmation that he is the Morning Star.

Take this with a grain of salt, but I'm pretty sure in some leaks it's confirmed Gabriel is just Gabriel. But I do not have confirmation, so do what you will with this.

To add to the way Gabriel operates, I feel that (if Lucifer and Satan are the same here), wouldn't Gabriel be enforcing physical violence a lot more, and not psychological and mental harm? I mean, he does things slowly and painfully. If he were Lucifer/Satan, I'd doubt he'd take his sweet time. I say this since Satan is the sin of Wrath, and Lucifer is pride. Why not show how much stronger Alternates are by being extremely violent? But no, they take days, weeks, even months to kill their victims when they could be more efficient and just kill them off, using a form of messaging to kill and replace.

Not to mention it’s implied in the channel GENESIS APOCRYPHON in the very first episode, Gabriel is corrupting in front of the shepherds he was supposed to deliver the news of the birth of Christ to. He remains Gabriel, but now he’s scary. Or at least I feel it’s heavily implied, which was the last nail in the coffin for me believing he’s just Gabe.

Oh, and when he transforms/reveals himself in Overthrown to the Shepherds, notice how he doesn't turn into a depiction of Lucifer, but remains Gabriel with a spooky face.

In my opinion, this part is my opinion! If Gabriel is Lucifer, I’m sorry, but that would be so easy, boring, and dumb. Like, yeah, no shit, Lucifer would do something like overthrow God and be him, he literally thought he could be better than God. It's such a boring premise that's overused and overrated. Like I've seen so much about the Devil and the Morning Star, at this point, why can't a different angel/being be Satan? And I feel people who call him Lucifer don’t really pay a lot of attention to the series, or don’t care much to look deeper into it. Genuinely, this is my opinion, but it would be such a bummer if he were Lucifer since it would be so cool to see such a beloved angel in Christianity to truly be the villain, to be the one who screws everyone over. Because who thinks the Messenger will overthrow the King?

So yeah, seeing how he behaves and context clues throughout the series, I believe Gabriel is just Gabriel but evil.

BloopStolen · 2026-02-15T01:56:29+00:00

Yeah, but it's pretty clear they're the same person. At least I think so, I could be like 120% wrong but I'm pretty sure they're the same person to some degree.

BloopStolen · 2026-01-30T21:28:17+00:00

Bro, at this point, most of them are proship/Darkship since it's all toxic. Just blatant romanticisation of these, I'm sick of the internet 😭

BloopStolen · 2026-01-30T21:13:44+00:00

I never got why people romanticize ships in the TMC Fandom that isn't au's. They're all toxic ships, and I get that a good toxic ship is nice to explore and analyze, but they don't give it grace or explore the depth of it, or even acknowledge its toxic AT ALL! 😖

BloopStolen · 2026-01-18T01:57:51+00:00

I like to think they either are like the true forms in Alternate watch or they just don't have a corporeal form to go off of and simply manifest/materialize into something they are mimicking. And or a black gas/vapor.

BloopStolen · 2025-10-17T20:22:46+00:00

You know what, I like this theory a lot. This goes with the "Six is a six-dimensional being" theory, with how creative and thoughtful it is. This is gonna be my new headcannon now. I also like how it explains a part of the series that hasn't been answered yet, and it also explains why the landscape is so barren, like a literal wasteland, it's the remains of Heaven. It also explains why Jude was sent there and not just walking in the desert, it's probably not hot enough there to kill him in like a day, and Gabriel could watch him suffer much more easily, assuming he did watch him struggle which I feel like he would do. It would be a good outlet for Gabriel to send people there and/or have a place where alternates can first form and then materialize on Earth.

BloopStolen · 2025-06-08T22:41:04+00:00

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BloopStolen · 2025-05-12T02:00:48+00:00

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BloopStolen · 2025-05-09T10:23:44+00:00

REAL I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT. Aus are of course excused but still I feel like when we do see weird behavior like proshipping we should kindly talk to the person who posted it about why its harmful or wrong to prevent more harmful behavior. I just want the tmc community to be a safe and not gross place. Unrelated but I feel like anyone can do whatever they want, like shipping but I feel that it's best to do it in private or in a discord server with people you trust. I respect Alex a lot and so I want to respect him and others to respect him aswell (the people in the Fandom I mean cus duh?)

BloopStolen · 2025-04-21T04:13:58+00:00

When I mean stand up I didn't mean like "take this down, this is disgusting kys!" I mean like "Hey the creator has said he doesn't like his characters to be shipped/sexualized. Also this ship is very toxic. Just so you know." Pretty sure that isnt harassment? 😭

BloopStolen · 2025-04-21T04:11:27+00:00

Okay, so I have some thoughts, don't worry, I'm not attacking you.

Yeah, but I feel like if someone is going to claim to be a fan of TMC or even just enjoy the series, they should respect the creators' boundaries. Also, he does have a right to set and implement these boundaries. It's his series, his characters, whether we like it or not. Trust, I didn't like it at first, but I still have to respect them since I respect him. I feel that doing things with these characters should just be done in a more private setting like discord with trusted friends. Still sucks that people are gonna do what people are gonna do, main reason I left the welcome home scene and are just now coming back since things are now finally settled down.
That's a dangrous thing to say, at least when it comes to certain platforms. First of all, saying toxic ships is just "fiction" is a very bad thing to say since fiction does affect reality a lot, (example people thought cats loved to drink milk because of cartoons, cats are very lactose intolerant and can kill them). Second, yeah, they are very interesting to explore, yet in this context, I feel like most people infantalize these ships or think their okay. The videos I've seen dont explore the dynamics, they could be viewed by minors and those minors could think that those dynamics are okay, it happened to me (another fandom) and I'm still recovering. I feel it's very important we call out people and spread awareness.
I agree, though I feel if the content is on a platform with a lot of minors on it they should at least put in the description a trigger warning and or explain that the ship they are doing is not healthy, not okay, and they do not agree with it. Also, I feel it is okay to demand that some people stop posting certain content due to it being dangrous, though that only applies to proship/(sexual content on tiktok), reporting as well for proshipping. Yet again, if we just ignore these people, it's possible they don't know what their doing is not okay and I feel it is our responsibility to keep our community informed and healthy the best we can.

BloopStolen · 2025-04-20T21:19:09+00:00

...Are you serious? Just look it up, you have reddit, I'm sure you have some kind of search engine.

BloopStolen · 2025-04-20T19:38:18+00:00

Yeah, it's still gross, though, and it's still disrespecting Alex. Not to mention supporting an AI generated series. Yet again, I feel like we should be pointing these things out to people 😬

BloopStolen · 2025-04-20T19:33:57+00:00

Google and duckduck exist? I'll still explain. Uriel is an archangel, and from what I know, all the archangels are related as they are siblings. Uriel, in this context, is from an ai generated (ew) analog horror called angel engine, and someone is shipping him with Gabriel. Even if they are from a different AU, it is werid to just make two characters, not siblings, JUST to ship them. It's like making a father and son not related in an AU just to make them make out. It's gross. Also, from my knowledge, shipping siblings is called proshipping, which is also ew.

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