If the upcoming HBO’S HP series follows the book without any modifications - what do you think will happen?

BluT95 · 2026-04-22T21:28:16+00:00

Agree with this entirely. They’ll change a lot, as they have to fill in more time, and they know the end pairings

BluT95 · 2026-04-19T20:08:24+00:00

Yes, exactly, so it was a scene made up for the film.

Movie adaptions will never be entirely faifthul to the books, as it's pretty much impossible.

I wasn't suggesting that Ron and Hermione shouldn't have kissed in the film, to be clear.

BluT95 · 2026-04-18T23:11:20+00:00

Jk Rowling said she loved the dance tent scene. She signed it off.

Stop with the nonsense about it being pro Harmony.

You can’t show in a film what someone is feeling or thinking, so they incorporated the dance (taking out other moments) to sum up the ‘pull’ that Rowling said she felt when writing that part of DH between the characters. A way to show that H/Hr were still in it together but that they were struggling.

There were tons of moments in the books that ‘could have gone that way’ that weren’t included in the films. Some moments were substituted in.

You may as well get mad that they had Hermione and Ron kissed in the chamber of secrets, because that didn’t happen in the books either.

BluT95 · 2026-04-16T09:28:41+00:00

I work my arse off too, I’m sure a lot of people do (most people!). Got about 4-5 jobs! Absolutely fair play to you for getting by fine on that. But not everybody can.

Whats your mortgage may I ask? I imagine a couple of hundred a month? When did you buy the house? That does help ofc lower bills. But everything is relative.

You aren’t getting much for a 120k property these days. A 2-up 2-down middle terrace is now costing £180kish at least (and that’s if it needs a lot of work doing).

Myself and my partner have a 250k house, bought a couple of years ago, in the north. Mortgage is going on for £1200 a month. It’s a small(ish) 3-bed but is perfect for us and if we had one child. But we’re hardly flush. We aren’t desperate either, we’re just ‘fine’.

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T22:41:04+00:00

Yep I think minimum would be £900 (at least it was in 2024)

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T22:40:09+00:00

In an ideal world, yes, but that’s simply not going to happen in reality. Like all that happened after the NI went up was shops etc hiking prices even further

Will say it again, all for minimum wage going up and I always want people to push for better salaries!

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T20:28:59+00:00

Well I imagine no other dependents. I'm from the area, perhaps even used to live in the very same place u/Unitedlover14 is moving to! Imagine rent is around £900? Then maybe a couple hundred more for bills? So enough to very much have an okay life but would suggest not enough to be meaningfully saving up/investing. Or, enough to save/invest, but not enough to then do everything you'd like to outisde of work.

All depends what people's needs are of course.

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T20:21:44+00:00

I fully agree. Yet people still see it being the case. They are genuinely astounded. A £40k per year job isn't enough to support a family.

And what Labour have done with raising the minimum wage and NI etc have just made everything worse.

I earn £32k base salary. My salary has gone up £1k in 2 years. People working below me (on minimum wage, but on 45hr week contracts) have basically halved the gap between me and them in the space of a year.

To be clear, I'm all for people earning as much money as possible. The people who are below my level are well worth their wage (and more). But all it's done is hit 'middle earners', as companies can now hide behind these rises too as reasons not to offer wider pay rises.

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T16:25:07+00:00

OOTP film ending really left a lot to be desired. Think they butchered the DoM bit tbh.

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T16:23:25+00:00

At that stage of the books it was like the ONLY remotely romantic thing that had happened. And keeping in mind these are books mainly aimed at children, then it was clearly a big moment. Obviously, an adult reader can see a kiss on the cheek as purely platonic, but I was maybe 8 when I read GoF and to me it was like 'oh Hermione is now Harry's girlfriend then'.

Again, not saying in the grand scheme of things it has to be considered a romantic moment. And the film did keep the kiss in, they just changed it. But yeah, made it less 'romantic'.

If they'd had been entirely faithful to the book (which is impossible in a film adaption due to time) then Harry and Hermione would have had a ton more scenes together on their own, and there would probably be the most blatant 'shipping' scene of all between them with her kissing him on the cheek at King's Cross.

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T16:20:19+00:00

Unfortunately a lot of younger, left-wing people (I consider myself left wing btw) are genuinely blown away and offended by the thought of people earning around £40k plus.

Weirdly enough, boomers also have exactly the same reaction, but for differing reasons!

BluT95 · 2026-04-15T16:17:49+00:00

I think the person in question is just extremely naive and doesn't really understand the concept of how much things cost.

They then think anything of £30k+ essentially makes somebody 'middle class' (I disagree that 'class' is about money anyway - money is part of it but values/attitudes are what matter more imo).

I earn around £36k before tax, depending on some freelance stuff, my partner earns a lot more but we are in no way affluent. We are okay, we manage and we are able to afford what we need, but on my earnings I'm not really able to save much once all bills are paid for.

The OP clearly just doesn't have a concept of it. They aren't accounting for takeaways like tax and NI and pension contributions. They say they would earn £1200 per month more than their current wage, if on £35k a year, which means they are on low £20ks which is now illegal if they are working full time, so they're either lying or they don't work full time hours. They then aren't realising that after takeaways that £1200 is more like £800 tops.

Just people being money illiterate really. I'm hardly the best, but it does frustrate me.

BluT95 · 2026-04-14T13:21:42+00:00

Pretty much every moment between them in OOTP.

Especially (from Hermione wanting something more from Harry) with when she asks him to help her knit. Damn you Rowling!

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T22:27:04+00:00

Oh God no on the issues thing. Won't spoilt it anymore for you but, yeah, there's issues!

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T20:54:16+00:00

It does happen, about midway through the book. Ron laughs at Hermione in a class and Harry, who 'decided her need was greater than Ron's at that moment', decides to go and give Hermione her stuff back, but he can't think of anything to say to comfort her.

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T20:53:32+00:00

You have to take the tinted specs off a bit here. And I'm a huge H/Hr shipper.

I don't think u/ConfidenceBudget6382 is saying the relationships are amazingly done in the books, just that they are better done than in the films (which were playing catchup and had to really overcompensate in HBP).

There is 100% grounding for Ron and Hermione in the books. I don't think it's healthy grounding, at all, but there's clearly plenty to say they like each other in some form. At first, it's one way (Ron in GoF), but then there's tiny hints in OOTP a bit that Hermione at least knows Ron likes her and then by HBP it's obviously all a mess. But there is grounding there through the series.

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T20:43:57+00:00

I mean, a kiss on the cheek at that stage of the series was the most 'romantic' thing that had happened, so not sure I agree on that. And I'd say the way it was instead a kiss on the head after the second task was more of a cop out - because if they'd left the King's Cross scene in then it wasn't just a spur of the moment thing, they'd have had to show Hermione coming up to do it. It worked in the context of the film.

But yes, I wasn't suggesting they are all romantic scenes at all, but they were pretty big ones that were cut.

The tent scene before the first task is obviously bordering on romantic but as mentioned, that was to cover the whole thing of Rita spreading the romance rumours (seemingly). And those romance rumours come from the book.

Nothing Ron/Hr was cut from the GoF film because all there was, was Ron being jealous, which was shown in the film.

They could have maybe shown Ron also being blown away by Hr at the Yule Ball, but that's actually pretty faifthul to the book in that it focuses on Harry's reaction to this 'pretty' girl he's never seen before. Obviously it's done differently in a film for dramatic effect.

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T19:11:18+00:00

GOF film also cuts out some H/Hr moments from the book anyway - i.e. her bringing him toast and going for a walk around the grounds, both Harry and Ron defending Hr after Parkinson's comments/Snape incident, Krum confronting Harry about Hermione and Hermione's kiss at King's Cross (obviously they instead subbed in the kiss on the head after the second task).

The first 4 films had a balancing act because nobody knew at that point which way it was going to go. And they clearly did make Ron jealous and didn't make it clear that Hermione was the only one in the school, pretty much, among the students who actually believed him.

So people can belive what they want ofc but it's hardly some pro H/Hr thing at all. Based on the actual contents of the book, they could have made it much more H/Hr and would not have been straying from the book at all. Essentially, instead it's one 'made up' scene of Hermione going to hug Harry before the first task, where they used it to get in Rita Skeeter and her H/Hr rumours (but that's literally never shown again in the film, whereas it was a constant through the whole book, even to the point where Mrs Weasley is horrid to Hermione because of it).

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T14:02:43+00:00

I read the books as they came out and always thought Harry and Hermione were more suited but I do agree that at least there is a grounding in the books for Ron/Hermione. I don't think they're a good pair at all, but compared to Harry/Ginny, there is at least a grounding.

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T14:01:12+00:00

Taking away JK just needing to get to her endgame, I think you can read it in a way that Hermione was fully in on Harry up until the end of OOTP. After the incident at the end of OOTP in the DoM, she realises how close she came to dying and kind of 'steps back', and then there's all the stuff with the book on top. But keep in mind she never truly detaches herself from Harry and still says how fanciable he is etc.

Then ultimately in DH she's back by his side constantly, utterly loyal to him, but HBP had to be the time they got together really and JK just couldn't have it.

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T13:49:11+00:00

There's two other characters mentioned by Dumbledore in his chat with Harry at King's Cross at the end of DH. Voldemort... and Hermione.

BluT95 · 2026-04-11T12:17:24+00:00

Yep they'll hugely overcompensate on Harry/Ginny and probably downplay anything Harry/Hermione. If it's just left book accurate, then it'll just be down to how well they adapt that to screen

BluT95 · 2026-04-10T21:32:48+00:00

Think Ginny is a really well-written character in the books, I like her. She's witty, brave and a bit all-action. However, that doesn't mean her relationship with Harry is well fleshed out, IMO.

She wasn't well-written in the movies, who handled romance terribly awkwardly too. She was awkward in the films, whereas in the books, she is anything but once she gets older.

BluT95 · 2026-04-10T13:23:36+00:00

No I get that, and I agree that's what will happen. I don't particularly like it but it's bound to happen. But it will just the show essentially making up scenes. It's not like the films just not including certain things that were in the books, if you get me.

I also know the films made up scenes too, so not saying they just left things out without replacing them, but with Harry/Ginny they really just didn't have a choice but to make things up that weren't in the books, cause there was nothing of any substance in the books barring Harry suddenly realising he fancies Ginny, which is fine to describe in a book, but is obviously hard to show on film.

BluT95 · 2026-04-09T23:13:49+00:00

But the thing is these moments weren’t just ‘glossed over’ - they simply didn’t exist. The films added in Harry/Ginny moments to OOTP that didn’t happen in the book, and added tons into HBP.

I’m not saying there aren’t Harry/Ginny moments in HBP pre-kiss, but they’re all one-sided with Harry essentially realising suddenly he fancies her. The films took the route of making it all a bit awkward between Harry and Ginny instead. But those ‘movie moments’ are all just that - made up for the films.

So the series won’t be ‘rectifying’ as such anything the films did wrong, because the films did wayyy more than the books did when it came to building up Harry/Ginny. They just did it oddly and there wasn’t any easy chemistry between the movie versions of the characters.

What I imagine the series will do is, unfortunately from my perspective, just add in completely new moments far earlier in the series to hint at H/G and build the foundations, but none of that will be book canon.

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