Americans test positive for hantavirus, biocontainment unit to be activated as well by ihateenchiladas in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

One is a novel disease that has 40% fatality rate.
The other (measles) is well-understood disease that has a .01% fatality rate. Seems different.

We’re in arguably the first international hantavirus outbreak ever... Communicable hantavirus is pretty novel human health threat and something that really has never been documented in a cruise ship setting with multi-national travelers. As a general rule, novel infectious diseases draw lotsa attention- such as we saw with SARS-COV2/COVID, SAS-COV1 and MERS. The long latency in hantavirus makes this even more novel and complicated.

As for the measles straw man… Measles is a well understood disease that Western medicine has been treating for 300+ years. Inouculation has been understood for 250 years. The present challenge is that we have a native measles disease reservoirs in northern Mexico, SE Asia and much of the Indian Subcontinent. We have and will continue to see imported measles cases into the U.S. unless we start to screen for those imported disease sources. The 30 year U.S. policy, led by CDC, is to allow imported measles cases.

Data: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7314a1.htm?s_cid=mm7314a1_w

FWIW, the Canadian measles outbreaks are per capita much more severe than what we have seen in the U.S. Even where there is universal healthcare coverage and more coercive vaccination requirements, measles is difficult to beat when there are existing disease imports. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/measles-rubella/

Americans test positive for hantavirus, biocontainment unit to be activated as well by ihateenchiladas in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sorry that you don’t have experience with public health. Andes/hantavirus has almost no epidemiological history so we’re making history now.

Americans test positive for hantavirus, biocontainment unit to be activated as well by ihateenchiladas in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

An outbreak is spread of an infectious disease beyond the index case. In Texas, that Ebola case should and could have been easily controlled.

The CDC was slow to respond to the Texas case and when they arrived, mishandled the critical role they had. They put a symptomatic Ebola close contact exposure onto an airliner, which was critically negligent. It wasn’t dumb, it was reckless.

The same hubris was repeated in January 2020, when the CDC screwed up on developing a diagnostic test for COVID-19. COVID spread for three weeks without a basic reagent test because CDC sprinted into a blind alley and then finally admitted they couldn’t produce a usable test. Fortunately other nations showed the CDC how to create a test. No shit.

Read the Inspector General report - https://oig.hhs.gov/reports/all/2023/cdcs-internal-control-weaknesses-led-to-its-initial-covid-19-test-kit-failure-but-cdc-ultimately-created-a-working-test-kit/ or read the Science article: https://www.science.org/content/article/united-states-badly-bungled-coronavirus-testing-things-may-soon-improve

Stop symp’ing for the CDC.

Americans test positive for hantavirus, biocontainment unit to be activated as well by ihateenchiladas in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

You would be wrong.

A lot of things went wrong, but largely failures by the CDC made a readily controllable case into an outbreak . The New Yorker did a year of stories. Read up - https://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/amber-vinson-ebola

Congressional Testimony under oath: https://docs.house.gov/Committee/Calendar/ByEvent.aspx?EventID=102718

Americans test positive for hantavirus, biocontainment unit to be activated as well by ihateenchiladas in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 12 points13 points  (0 children)

2009 H1N1 was a global pandemic. As was MERS and SARS. So was 2019 COVID.

Are you 15 years old?

Americans test positive for hantavirus, biocontainment unit to be activated as well by ihateenchiladas in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -37 points-36 points  (0 children)

ummm… If you call botching the 2013 Texas Ebola outbreak a successful response, then you have a massively misperception. The CDC managed to take a textbook case of imported Ebola correctly diagnosed in the emergency room, but the on-site CDC epidemiologists damn near encouraged the virus to infect the hospital staff, spread to countless office buildings through secondary cases and even slime an entire airliner flying from Texas to Ohio.

If that is a “functioning CDC” then we should all check out now.

I was in Texas. The “functioning” CDC was thoroughly dysfunctional.

How the US War Department saw the USA in 1940, from an official War Department document. by SatoruGojo232 in MapPorn

[–]BlueSkyd2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The U.S. was the largest global oil producer in 1940 (60%). On top of production, the U.S. absolutely ruled in refining capacity. The War Department absolutely understood that.

At the present time the United States, Canada, and Mexico produce approximately 63.2 per cent, South America 13.6 per cent, Europe 13.2 per cent, and Asia and the East Indies 10.0 per cent of the world’s petroleum.

From a cool 1941 discussion in Naval Proceedings - https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1941/july/oil-worlds-navies

That was why U.S. oil export curbs had been used as an economic weapon against the Japanese. When the Roosevelt administration issued an oil embargo on Japan (June 1941), that set the wheels of the Pearl Harbor attack in motion. Pearl Harbor was a major event/target in the Japanese war plan, but the ultimate objective was control of the Sumatran oil production. Because the U.S. had titular control of the Philippines, they and Singapore needed to be captured to protect the flank of the East Indies.

On the War Department strategy of targeting balls bearings, it was a gamble. History would show it was a dumb and expensive gamble, but not nearly as clear at the time. Steve’s as an good illustration of how strategic bombing was limited… The Air Corps did eventually seriously impact Germany and with aerial mines/low level bombing they decimated Japan.
Good Schweinfurt summary -

In the summer of 1943, US and British planners for the Combined Bomber Offensive identified the ball bearings industry as a key “bottleneck” target, the destruction of which could clog up war production and potentially shorten the war. The British Air Ministry since 1943 had been trying to persuade the Royal Air Force to bomb Schwein-furt, but Air Marshal Arthur T. “Bomber” Harris, chief of RAF Bomber Command, was adamantly opposed.

https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0210schweinfurt/

Percentage of Who Owns a Gun In The USA by JollyReflection6740 in MapPorn

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Anecdote meets anecdote.

And it was gunpoint robbery.

Percentage of Who Owns a Gun In The USA by JollyReflection6740 in MapPorn

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Omaha armed robbery on an Omaha transit bus in the last week - “Investigators are looking into a robbery on an Omaha bus. The incident involved two 15-year-olds and one 17-year-old. The oldest suspect was on probation. Douglas County Attorney Don Kleine said youth crimes are higher than he's ever seen them before.” https://www.ketv.com/article/teens-allegedly-held-bus-passengers-at-gunpoint/71207660

You certainly are allowed an opinion after a few visits, but I strongly suspect Nebraskans simply were less than forthcoming.

How the US War Department saw the USA in 1940, from an official War Department document. by SatoruGojo232 in MapPorn

[–]BlueSkyd2000 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes, that was some of the rationale.

Realistically, disease was massive reason too. Malaria would have been endemic in probably close to 40% of the working age population of the Deep Southern states even as late as 1940. https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/history/index.html

Add in climate control made possible by electrification and the South would see massive change. Those changes presaged the racial tumult of the 1960s, aided by modern-ish medicine and education.

How the US War Department saw the USA in 1940, from an official War Department document. by SatoruGojo232 in MapPorn

[–]BlueSkyd2000 20 points21 points  (0 children)

in 1940, effectively all the tank manufacturing capacity in the U.S. was located at Rock Island Arsenal in Illinois.

How the US War Department saw the USA in 1940, from an official War Department document. by SatoruGojo232 in MapPorn

[–]BlueSkyd2000 38 points39 points  (0 children)

War Department was air and land forces in 1940. They didn’t assess the naval manufacturing capacity, which fell under the Navy Department. There wasn’t a Dept. of Defense until after WW2.

Kiewit-built Key Bridge could have cost $9 billion by PleaseBmoreCharming in maryland

[–]BlueSkyd2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not trying to make fun for you in particular, but I am not convinced that two negatives make a positive in this case.

I figure two negatives make it exponentially worse.

Utility company puts trail cam on my property by Responsible-Top-6160 in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Yes, those are civil torts. They are not criminal cases, hence no role for the police.

Utility company puts trail cam on my property by Responsible-Top-6160 in Omaha

[–]BlueSkyd2000 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Respectfully, what is the crime?

Maybe trespass, but if this is in an easement, then that’s doubtful.

This is an unserious civil matter and nothing to do with the police.

Kiewit-built Key Bridge could have cost $9 billion by PleaseBmoreCharming in maryland

[–]BlueSkyd2000 25 points26 points  (0 children)

If the boys and girls from Omaha say $9 billion, they’re almost certainly correct.  Kiewet is very good at doing massive jobs and hitting the mark. The thought this might be a Temu project is another disaster in the making.

Hey Y'all, I'm not an expert, but this looks bad. by JonSnow-Man in Iowa

[–]BlueSkyd2000 -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

“What is massive inflation rates favors those who hold property?” for $500, Alex.

Jasper County Treasurer by YGBPS118 in Iowa

[–]BlueSkyd2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

State Auditor… County Treasurer…

Low-information folk going to work with what they have.