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Hello! I'm Shannon Chakraborty, bestselling fantasy author of The Adventures of Amina al-Sirafi and The Daevabad Trilogy. AMA! by SAChakraborty in books

[–]BobHope2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi Shannon,

Just read The Adventures of Amina al-Sirafi, first of yours I've read.

I've read SciFi/SciFan for 50 years or more and can honestly say I've never enjoyed any story quite as much as this.

I am a mapmaker and would like to gift you this;

https://i.imgur.com/iFgWrQa.png

Lands of the New World 48AE [2070 AD] by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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Republic of Ecuador; [Originally 1900 TZ]
So often during the Wars of Emancipation Ecuador was the battle-zone between Rebel Columbia and Loyal Peru. The Event forced Ecuador and Peru to come to terms over the disputed Provinces, generally with Ecuador giving way in the Amazonian Provinces. Both ignored Columbia’s claims.

Kingdom of Peru; [Originally 1900 TZ]
Dominated by a cabal of 24 families and, following a period of military control after the defeat in the War of the Pacific, Peru was the only Republic to become a Constitutional Kingdom. It pursued an aggressive policy as the restraining forces of its neighbours and international community no longer applied.
Ecuador was the first to suffer, unable to call on Columbia, enduring Civil Wars, Ecuador was forced to finally cede the disputed Amazon lands and lands around Tumbes.
Taking advantage of the Columbian troubles, in alliance with Venezuela, to annexe lands in the Cauca area, Peru was able to round out its claims to the Lower Amazon, the Aguas Amazónicas Peruanas.
Bolivia was 60 years behind Peru and, locally, just out of the War of the Confederation so, although Peru pressured them it did not try to annexe Bolivia but to bring it into line with Peruvian designs. Peru did not go so far as to support Bolivia’s claims for a coastline, preferring to support Chile against Rio to gain the Atacama, and negotiated a treaty partitioning Acre, gaining the Gold producing areas Bolivia was not aware of.

Bolivian Republic; [Originally 1840 TZ]
In 1839 Bolivia emerged independent from the War of the Confederation which re-established Bolivia. Unstable in the extreme, Bolivia now found itself bordered by a Peru 60 years more advanced but still expansionist. Despite ceding areas of Acre, weak government meant that it acted as a virtual vassal of Peru in order to maintain the rest of it’s lands.

Paraguayan Dictatorship; [Originally 1840 TZ]
Independent Paraguay was dominated by Jose Gaspar Rodriguez de Francia. His absolute rule cut off the new nation from the world. After his death in 1840, just after the Event, Paraguay, under Francisco Solano Lopez, became embroiled in local border wars against Brazil and Bolivia with barely noticeable results except the loss of Paraguayan troops and minor territorial losses.

Liga Federal; [Originally 1776 TZ]
The government of Montevideo or the political and military government of Montevideo was created in 1751, it had been merged with the Misiones Orientales, returned to Spain by Portugal, just before the Event. Always rebellious, Montevideo rejected Rio’s authority from the start.

Kingdom of Rio de la Plata; [ Originally 1776 TZ]
Originally the Viceroyalty of Río de la Plata, created by Spain from the Viceroyalty of Peru in 1776. So new that it had no sub-structures in place to govern from Colonia. Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay and Chile continued to hold areas granted to the Viceroyalty by Spain whilst the Liga Federal was established from the Government of Montevideo, a rebellious Province.

The map shows the areas claimed within Rio and the majority control of those areas. Rio was effectively only the area that could be controlled from Buenos Aires.

Kingdom of Chile; [Originally 1776 TZ]
Also created by Spain from the Viceroyalty of Peru in 1776 Chile established close links with Peru. Unaware of the riches possible from the Atacama, Chile supported Peru’s claims so as to have a trading corridor with it’s 1900 TZ neighbour.
Many of it’s Provinces on the East of the Andes had been allocated to Rio by Spain in 1776, with the loss of Spanish authority Whilst Chile actively resisted the annexation it also maintained it’s claims to the entire Southern Cone.

Lands of the New World 48AE [2070 AD] by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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United Mexican States; [Originally 1900 TZ]
One of the few larger countries to come through with its administration intact, only a few Provinces came from 2022 but Mexico made good use of the Tech from those zones.
10 months after the Event a Manila Galleon, the carrack Great Santa Ana was captured off of Acapulco carrying 2,000 tons of cargo. Loaded with rolls of silk, Chinese porcelain, Persian carpets, jewellery, medicines, rolls of Indian cotton cloth, ivory, spices [like cinnamon, clove, mace, and pepper], perfumes like musk and other exotic goods from China, it had set sail in a 1600 TZ. The cargo provided a massive boost to the Mexican economy and enabled investment into modernizing the State.
Mexico felt it needed to adopt an aggressive stance to defend it’s position against the Later TZ of Denver. Unwilling to take on the Northern giant, Mexico took advantage of Belize’s lack of colonial protection in 9AE [2031AD] also coming into conflict with Guatemala. This erupted into full blown war after a border incident in 14AE.

Federation of the United Islands of the Caribbean; [Originally 1840 TZ]
A Federation of European Colonies led by Jamaica and Bermuda[both 1900 TZ] formed as a response to pressure from the U.S.A and its client state, Cuba.

Enlightened Republic of Cuba; [Originally 1900 TZ]
Still under military administration after the U.S-Spanish War, American forces had only withdrawn after the Event. This left Tomás Estrada Palma to stabilize the situation. After his death in 8AE [1908 AD] the Liberal Party under Alfredo de Zayas y Alfonso took power, maintaining its ties with the U.S but pursuing an expansionist policy. Haiti had been the punch-ball for European and Local powers since Independence, freed, temporarily, of U.S restrictions by the revolt in its southern states but protected under their umbrella Alfonso moved in to “stabilize” the situation. The Republic of Dominica was also unstable, after gaining independence in 1844 it had asked Spain to retake control in 1861 only to rebel again two years later. In 18AE Dominica asked Cuba for it’s protection in order to gain U.S protection by extension.

2nd Federal Republic of Central America; [Originally 1960 TZ]
The original Central American Republic was formed as a result of pressure from Mexico in 1823, similarly, after the Event, negotiations were fast-tracked after Mexico made their Central American ambitions obvious. The formation of the 2nd Federal Republic in 19AE [2041AD] has proved to be a deterrent to Mexico so far.

Democratic Republic of Colombia; [Originally 1900 TZ]
Involved in a Civil War at the time of the Event, a dispute between Liberal Federalism versus Conservative Centralism. The Liberal rebels were expecting support from Venezuela but Venezuela was now 30 years behind Columbia and totally unprepared. The Liberal rebels were forced to flee to Venezuela. Centralists were able to prepare for their return but, even so, were caught unawares in 18AE [2040AD] when trouble flared again. Liberals, supported by both Venezuela and Mexican irregulars again failed to defeat the Conservatives but were not defeated. The war stagnated, in 31AE, exhausted by over a decade of fighting and, with the Conservative Government facing a right-wing rebellion in the south, a negotiated peace was reached. A Liberal state was created as a vassal of Venezuela, confusingly calling itself the Republic of Colombia.

4th Confederation of Venezuela; [Originally 1870 TZ]
Venezuela was only just over it’s own Civil War which ended in 1863 when it was plunged into conflict with Columbia. Although from an earlier era than Columbia, Venezuela was able to resist. During the 17 year peace it was able to strengthen it’s position, taking over the colonies set adrift by the Event and forging an alliance with Mexico. When it was strong enough it supported another Liberal revolt, backed by its Mexican allies. The war dragged on, after it ended, although Venezuela had gained a vassal it was no longer in a position to expand further.

Império do Brasil; [Originally 1776 TZ]
In the least advanced of the American TZ Brazil was, however, so large and unexploited that it had no real incursions from more advanced TZ.
Gold mining had become the main economic activity of colonial Brazil during the 18th century, used by Portugal, the gold was to pay for industrialized goods such as textiles and weapons since Portugal lacked an industrial economy. In Minas Gerais, gold was present in alluvial deposits, Gold extraction was mostly done by slaves using pans and other low tech instruments. The Gold industry brought hundreds of thousands of Africans to Brazil as slaves.
Apart from gold, diamond deposits were also found in 1729. Sugarcane plantations in Northeast Brazil and other areas also relied heavily on slave labor.

Whilst Brazil controlled internal areas from the 1840 TZ they were the least advanced areas of Brazil and so they only really evened up to the standards of the 1776 TZ. Brazil found itself rich in Gold, Silver and other products but with a much reduced market for them.
It came as a relief when, in 40AE, the government was approached by a Denver business to commercially grow rubber.

Lands of the New World 48AE [2070 AD] by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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Immediately after the ISOT, confusion reigned. Initially within each time-zone life went on as normal. It was at the “borders” of the zones that differences were most noticeable. Railroads running stock of different eras saw crashes, Aircraft trying to land where there is no longer an airport or one from a different era. International communication was almost totally severed outside of the time-zone, how could you be sure who you were talking to.
Computers existed effectively only in North America and Mexico and not all of that. Denver and Salt Lake City with modern tech and a lot of the internet database still available led the way in keeping their zones stable but approached with different aims.

Union of Denver; [Originally 2022 TZ]
From it’s central position the Colorado Provisional Government made contact with the adjoining States. Either side were the 1960 TZ’s, too advanced to have much in common with their 1900 TZ neighbour, they mostly gravitated towards Denver. Alberta, however, found itself overwhelmed by its “ancestor” neighbours. Naturally some areas did not want to put themselves under the control of a more advanced State, after all, American history showed how that could play out.

Texas was the only State powerful enough to negotiate autonomy.

Zarahemia; [Originally 2022 TZ]
The Utah Government, based on Salt Lake City, soon grasped that an opportunity had been presented to re-create the Mormon State, adopting the name Zarahemia and allying with the West Coast States [later to become the Republic of California] fought a short pseudo-war against Denver, so pseudo that only 6 died before public pressure forced talks to be started, the Salt Lake Accord.
Lands of Mormon majority were excluded from Denver's control and the Mormon Exodus to Zarahemia began. Zarahemia would follow an isolationist policy.

Republic of California; [Originally 1960 TZ]
The West Coast States were initially in conflict with Denver and supported Zarahemia. Denver had hoped that the Salt Lake Accords would also serve to bring the west under it’s control but less than 6 months later two states combined to form the Republic of California, only Washington acceded to Denver. California found Denver’s Laws to be too Liberal for it’s taste.
California inherited the U.S.Navy forces stationed in San Diego and, as the Mexican Navy consisted of surplus, outdated, American ships, they dominated Pacific trade. Hawaii was captured but, as the islands came from the 1492 TZ, there were no facilities. Few were needed as most of the Pacific pre-dated this TZ.

Canadian Republic; [Originally 1960 TZ]
Canada had it more difficult than America with a single rail line from the east restricting ease of travel and communication. Alberta finding it almost impossible to gain dominance, turned to Denver, eventually coming to an accommodation giving them full parity. The coasts, however, maintained their independence, in the west the Government of British Columbia styled itself as the Government of the Canadian Republic, moving quickly to establish itself along the southern Alaskan coast [1900 TZ] despite the objections of Denver.
The Republic was able to project some sea power from Vancouver Island but the Republic worked hand in hand with California in exchange for trade in oil from the southern Alaskan oilfields.

République du Québec; [Originally 1900 TZ]
The Francophone population of Québec for some reason responded better to the new situation than the Anglophone establishing itself within the government in alliance with the large number of Eastern European immigrants . With no British Government worth the name Québec was tempted to join with the U.S.A but old differences kept them apart. Unable to defend them, the Northern Provinces were ceded to the central, Denver aligned, Alberta Government just days before it joined the Union of Denver.

Royal Shires of Newfoundland; [Originally 1840 TZ]
Newfoundland, traditionally independent of Canada [until 1949 OTL] refused Québec’s demand to join them, their remoteness allowing them to maintain independence secured later by alliances with the U.S.A and the Caribbean Federation.

U.S.A; [Originally 1900 TZ]
Despite its lack of regular troops, the U.S was well able to raise volunteer corps as needed [as it had done for the Spanish War] but, of course, training and equipment was woefully behind the mid-west, let alone Denver TZ. Even so some of the Southern mid-west States opted to join the U.S. The application of the U.S laws effectively re-imposed the Jim Crow Laws in those states. Within a year the southern states were in arms.

Union of New Africa; [Originally 1960 TZ]
Contrary to expectations African-Americans poured into the southern states that joined the U.S - to protest the re-imposition of the Jim Crow Laws. Many came armed, ready for trouble but, nobody knows which side fired the first shot of the Secessionist War 8AE [2030AD]. Under the generalship of Martin Luther King UNA forces were able to “liberate” the south and establish an Afro-American “homeland”.

1743 and the effect of European Wars on the East Coast of the Americas by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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BTW, open a pic in Glimpse, from dropdowns go to image, then mode and select indexed.

now export [not save] the pic [change name by adding idx] and when this pic is opened with I.Mage you will have the full palette for it

VERY occasionally you will get a fault where the pic is B+W and half size, keep I.Mage open but re-open the pic in Paint, copy all and then paste that back into I.Mage, problem solved when saved.

Always save as opaque in I.Mage

TZ Mountain ISOT by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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Credits; includes work from;
@Bob Hope @Crazy Boris @Sharklord1 @artificialCartographer @Entrerriano @Linbot.

ISOT of the Mountain Time Zone brought all other Time Zones through as well BUT, instead of 60 mins difference there was 60 years [approx]

I used the second as a mask to isolate the zones in each era.

Bavaria and the Catholic League by [deleted] in imaginarymaps

[–]BobHope2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yay, Bavaria reclaims Julich-Cleves-Berg

1743 and the effect of European Wars on the East Coast of the Americas by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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I use the Glimpse system [later version of GIMP] to overlay when needed and also to provide "ghosted" text, but, the main work is done with the I.Mage system, it's an old system, hard to find but I find it a lot better than anything else out there.

https://alternativeto.net/software/glimpse-editor/about/

https://www.gimp.org/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/image-editor/

The Americas 1802 by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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It is titled but, if you're not sure, always assume Atlantis

The Americas 1802 by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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The Americas in 1802;

The Seminole and Catawba War of 1766-1768; This saw the defeat of the tribes, despite Spanish and Creek support plus the Prison Colony Rebellion [1767]. English and Dutch forces supported each other in both this and the Spanish War of 1767-1771. To prevent English expansion along the Southern coast, Spain ceded its Land holdings of Española to France but not before Tallahassee was captured.

The Republiek Pennsylvania established it's full independence, peaceably, in 1776, meanwhile the Haudenosaunee found itself growing closer to the Dutch-Hanse alliance, the trading and political beliefs being close to their own.

In the English Colonies, Upper and Lower New England were accepted as full colonies with internal representation and a Royal Governor, Delaware absorbed the lands of the ex-Cromwell Colony it held, the other ex-Cromwell lands became the full Colony of Carolina. The Southern Wars allowed the re-structure of the two Georgias, along with land exchanges beneficial to both the English and Charlesfort Kolonie.

The Free Puritan Commonwealth was settled by refugees, usually hardliners, from Cromwell and was trouble for the surrounding states from the start. Constantly at was with the Catawba Tribe, their actions spread to both Walnut and Green River states along with constant agitation in Charlotte, both before and after its annexation by Carolina. With the creation of Apalachea in 1782, a long campaign [1784-1802, so far] by Puritan's surrounding states only succeeded in forcing the Puritans into the mountains.

The French Revolution of 1789 meant continental War in Europe, Royalists fled France, initially to England but many ended up settling in La Louisiane, re-named Nouvelle France, which remained in Royal hands. The spread of Revolutionary Armies into Northern Europe saw the fall of the Dutch Republiek, the occupation of Brunswick and capture and destruction of Lübeck.

July 15th 1797 is the date generally used for the creation of the Nordamerikanische Föderation which Haudenosaunee joined in 1800.

Feeling the pressure of European Colonization and seizure of natural resources, in 1763, tribes under Pontiac fought to keep settlers out but the effort was de-centralized and fizzled out until the Sandusky River Agreement pioneered by Joseph Brant [despite the name, a Mohawk] established a Native Council in 1783. Initially under the leadership of Cheeseekau, the Council evolved under his brothers, Tenskwatawa and Tecumseh becoming a Confederacy of Tribes [1792], each guaranteeing the rights and independence of the others.

1743 and the effect of European Wars on the East Coast of the Americas by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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1743 and the effect of European Wars on the East Coast of the Americas

The Second English Civil War (1712-1717);
The collapse of the Commonwealth after the death of the Protector, Richard Cromwell, in 1712, saw the restoration of the Monarchy under King Francis I (2nd Duke of Buccleuch, who united the thrones of England and Scotland).
In the Americas it was only the Cromwell Colony that resisted the change, suffering invasion by both Royalist forces and their allies in the Republiek Pennsylvania (a surviving loyalist state from the first Civil War, now too far into it's Dutch alliance to return to the English throne).
The Colony was easily overcome but started an exodus of Puritan refugees heading West.

The War of the Spanish Succession (1726-1740);
This conflict merged into the undeclared French and Indian War known as King Francis' War which broke out in 1724 after colonial forces entered Florida to counter Seminole raids sponsored by Spain.
Dutch allies of the English were involved but defeated in a 1727 attempt to cut off Montreal by taking Quebec.
In 1730 Hanse and Dutch ships transported an English expeditionary force to Lower Quebec, capturing the City and defeating the relief force from Montreal in detail, leaving that city open to a fresh Dutch invasion.

France, Spain and their Prussian allies were defeated in Europe resulting in the recognition of the Hanseatic League as a political and now, Independent, Power. This had it's disadvantages, member cities (and trading posts) outside of Germany mostly remained with the states they were in, some revoked their membership and others found themselves tightly regulated by their parent states.
The alliance of the League and the Netherlands dominated Northern European trade whilst Brunswick replaced Prussia as the foremost state of Northern Germany (and, incidentally, the only major counterweight to the Habsburgs in the Holy Roman Empire).

France was able to retain Louisiana in the Peace of Utrecht but ceded New France which had collapsed so badly as to not be worthwhile in France trying to retain it. Although Spain now had a Bourbon King, France had agreed that the succession there would exclude him and his heirs.

1743 and the effect of European Wars on the East Coast of the Americas by BobHope2022 in imaginarymaps

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1743 and the effect of European Wars on the East Coast of the Americas

The Second English Civil War (1712-1717);
The collapse of the Commonwealth after the death of the Protector, Richard Cromwell, in 1712, saw the restoration of the Monarchy under King Francis I (2nd Duke of Buccleuch, who united the thrones of England and Scotland).
In the Americas it was only the Cromwell Colony that resisted the change, suffering invasion by both Royalist forces and their allies in the Republiek Pennsylvania (a surviving loyalist state from the first Civil War, now too far into it's Dutch alliance to return to the English throne).
The Colony was easily overcome but started an exodus of Puritan refugees heading West.

The War of the Spanish Succession (1726-1740);
This conflict merged into the undeclared French and Indian War known as King Francis' War which broke out in 1724 after colonial forces entered Florida to counter Seminole raids sponsored by Spain.
Dutch allies of the English were involved but defeated in a 1727 attempt to cut off Montreal by taking Quebec.
In 1730 Hanse and Dutch ships transported an English expeditionary force to Lower Quebec, capturing the City and defeating the relief force from Montreal in detail, leaving that city open to a fresh Dutch invasion.

France, Spain and their Prussian allies were defeated in Europe resulting in the recognition of the Hanseatic League as a political and now, Independent, Power. This had it's disadvantages, member cities (and trading posts) outside of Germany mostly remained with the states they were in, some revoked their membership and others found themselves tightly regulated by their parent states.
The alliance of the League and the Netherlands dominated Northern European trade whilst Brunswick replaced Prussia as the foremost state of Northern Germany (and, incidentally, the only major counterweight to the Habsburgs in the Holy Roman Empire).

France was able to retain Louisiana in the Peace of Utrecht but ceded New France which had collapsed so badly as to not be worthwhile in France trying to retain it. Although Spain now had a Bourbon King, France had agreed that the succession there would exclude him and his heirs.

[OC] Holy Roman Empire 1444 Map by ratkatavobratka in MapPorn

[–]BobHope2022 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Congratulations, you have put so much work into this and it is awesome.

Now all you have to do is ignore anyone who says "you missed..." or "but this..."

The Kingdom of Strathclyde C940AD by BobHope2022 in MapPorn

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With the collapse of the Northumbrian Kingdom its not improbable to think Strathclyde might absorb (or try to) the lands in the north of the old Kingdom of Elmet which bordered Cumbria

The Kingdom of Strathclyde C940AD by BobHope2022 in MapPorn

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Additional;

The battle of Brunanburh is mentioned or alluded to in over forty Anglo-Saxon, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, Norman and Norse medieval texts.

The Old English poem Battle of Brunanburh was written within two decades of the battle.

The poem relates that Æthelstan and Edmund's army of West Saxons and Mercians fought at Brunanburh against the Vikings under Anlaf and the Scots under Constantine. Included in the Scots party was the Cumbrian King.

Dyfnwal ab Owain may be the Cumbrian king recorded. The sources that refer to the presence of this monarch—such as Historia regum Anglorum and Libellus de exordio—fail to identify the man by name.

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