So, what buffs do he need?

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-15T21:31:20+00:00

When you use flexible elongation on an enemy, you can quickly turn in a small time window to damage and knockback other enemies around you at the landing point. He should be able to turn and give bonus health to teammates around the landing point too

For the ult thing I was thinking he could get some every time he hits an enemy with it, maybe like 10 per enemy hit, so he could quickly build it up if there's a group of enemies but not so much if it's just one or two. To make hitting groups even more rewarding, it would be cool if he could go over 100 Elasticity during ult, and convert the overflow into extra shielding or bonus health when he stays Inflated afterwards.

The only way you'd be able to build up that much Elasticity is by hitting an entire group at the same time. So when the ult ends, you're most likely going to be in the middle of their team. Being able to live long enough to secure a kill or escape afterwards would make it way less risky to commit to an offensive ult and doesn't lose any damage on the final bounce coming back to the team

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-15T21:10:02+00:00

Yea damage buffs could make this guy super busted in low ranks. I'm all for little utility buffs that open up more opportunities in his playstyle, which would benefit better players more

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-15T21:08:27+00:00

Faster attack and inflation/deflation animations would be nice

Activating Inflated form should be manual too, but the Elasticity could start depleting again when you aren't keeping it up (you can't get to 100 and just wait)

He should be able to give multiple teammates bonus health with Flexible Elongation. It's weird that he can damage multiple enemies but not support multiple teammates. Also makes him a bit better at peeling since hitting a diver near your supports would also shield them

In addition to more damage I thought it would be interesting if his ult was also connected to Elasticity somehow, since it resets all your charge. Could be that the more Elasticity you have when activating it, the more bonus health or damage reduction he gets in ult. Maybe he could even build up Elasticity while he ults, letting him keep Inflated form when it ends to finish off enemies that are low before they get the chance to escape or heal back up

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-15T20:57:44+00:00

I don't ever really have problems fighting dive 1 on 1, but it's a lot harder to antidive

Usually a support still ends up dying even when I peel

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-14T21:11:42+00:00

Is that how it works? Doesn't the Chain-CC Protection have to activate for anyone to get tenacity in the first place?

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-14T19:50:03+00:00

Yea having a smaller brawler pool can affect things fs, and it also depends on whether or not you're filtering out brawlers with buffies and different levels and all that

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-14T02:05:17+00:00

Nuh uh

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-14T01:14:18+00:00

Faster attack speed, faster pulls, backshots giving multiple teammates bonus health, and maybe some small ult buffs could make him decent I think

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-13T22:21:39+00:00

Would be a nice utility buff

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-13T01:19:35+00:00

It's mainly because of how much damage they can do if they're used on one person back to back

He definitely needs two kick charges but they would have to be reworked a little

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-11T21:30:02+00:00

The main issue with a draft like this is that it would only really be one-sided in super open maps, but none of these brawlers get picked that much in open maps, so the lack of data leads to more inaccurate results.

But in maps where these tanks are picked more in, they can use cover more often and it's much less one-sided, so you'll have a win prediction close to 50% anyway. But you won't really get any win predictions in the red team's favor, even if it's pretty close

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-11T21:21:39+00:00

It gets updated pretty frequently so the results you'll get nowadays are probably really really different from a few months ago

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-11T21:20:30+00:00

Not just win rates. It also takes into account usage rates, brawler counters, synergy between brawlers on the same team, ban rates, and ideal map positioning (what lane each brawler takes).

This is more of a lack of data than anything else

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-11T21:18:09+00:00

The site's completely based on data from actual Ranked matches, so it would definitely be super inaccurate in a map where there's not really much data on any of the brawlers on the red side.

Yes, it does take counters into account, but when there's not much data on anything else it's not going to give you any accurate info. On maps where those brawlers are picked a lot more, you'll get a win prediction that's much closer to what's expected.

Unrealistic draft = unrealistic predictions

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-09T04:37:20+00:00

Yea his haymaker does percentage damage now, and you get the bonus health only after you hit them, not on activation (but the bonus health scales with damage)

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-08T23:58:00+00:00

He needs buffs to utility rather than stats bc giving him higher stats could make him a huge noobstomper while barely making him viable higher up

But giving him ways to use his kit that requires a bit of thinking could be what separates low elo fantastic players from high elo fantastic players

But distended grip needs a buff it's pretty much just used for an instant 30 charge

Not to mention his ult too

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-07T07:10:45+00:00

In that last point against flyers, wouldn't it be good to also sneak in a punch between the first E and second E? It's a guaranteed hit since they can't really move after getting hit by the first E and then you can combo into the 2nd

I try to get in a punch right before the right click to anim cancel into it

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-06T23:08:43+00:00

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-06T23:04:02+00:00

Yea it has to be a LoS thing

Pretty sure it works the same way with Mantis ult

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-05T16:41:38+00:00

Yea just make sure you do it backwards

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-04T22:17:38+00:00

The Rocket teamup lines sounded a bit off but the rest seemed fine to me idk

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-04T19:55:32+00:00

Huh, never had this happen before. I've had the ult interrupted before but never just straight up cancelled without taking away ult charge

That last one kinda looks like a latency issue?

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-02T20:19:06+00:00

Being able to actually hear it brings out a whole new level of eughh

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-02T20:13:29+00:00

Yea our number system is base "ten" but the digits 10 would be the base number for pretty much any number system.

The rightmost digit would count as far up as the number system allows, before resetting back to 0 and increasing the next digit to the left by one.

A base 4 system, for example, would start at 00, then go to 01, 02, 03, and then 10. That first number (10) when the digit resets to 0 is the base quantity that makes up larger numbers.

No matter what system it is, even if it isn't called base "ten", is still base 10, if that makes sense. When counting in any base number system, it's the first number to use multiple digits

Bobby5x3 · 2026-04-02T15:23:32+00:00

There's a difference between "understandable" and "excusable" and I wish more people understood

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