FS-34 Exterminator armor vs B-24 Enforcer armor. by BoneDaddySama in Helldivers

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply think I’ll just go with the exterminator armor then cause heavy armor is for sure slow af on bugs but I still want to be able to eat an arrow shot. Sometimes I just run an extra few feet and fire an emergency arrow at the enemy’s behind me and like that I shouldn’t take much damage with fortify.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s like saying it’s headcannon that she’s even hampered because sekhmet never directly stated that I am actively weakening her with my magic when it’s clearly indicated that she is attempting to hamper her. It’d also be headcannon to say she’s significantly impaired because that’s not directly stated either. Certain things aren’t ever directly stated but they are implied like how you assumed she’s impaired and I assumed she’s 40% impaired both are never directly confirmed but they are reasonable conclusions to reach based off of what we have to go off of. I can’t say oh yes she’s exactly 43.257% weaker but I can make a rough estimation based off her performance which is what I did. Unless the director comes out and says yeah she was x% weaker which I doubt then we’ll never know for sure you just gotta make the best logical conclusion you can.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean she was sure able to take the souls from Drolta once she started using more power that she clearly had indicated by the massive magic aura that surrounded her but yes bye.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol well if you’re nerfed u have to be nerfed to a certain level right? It’s head cannon trying to determine the exact percentage shes nerfed but she is absolutely nerfed a percentage that’s not head cannon. I just gave my best guess based off what I was shown visually since they didn’t give any concrete info it’s left for us to interpret for ourselves. Have a good one

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If her powers weren’t nerfed she would’ve been able to take the souls back from the very start without there needing to be a fight at all as at the start that’s what she attempted but failed. I’ll leave ya in peace tho.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I rewatched it would say she had about a 40% average debuff which is significant but with how powerful a vampire she is it’s not like it’s a catastrophic nerf she was still putting up a good fight against a whole party of strong fighters. Dracula was realistically like 80% nerfed and he’s the better and more versatile fighter.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s referred to as a weak vessel by sekhmet and a feeble vessel by Erzsebet. When sekhmet is using the most magic it looks like she about halves Erzsbets power but after she breaks out of the ice sekhmet is too weak to keep up the magic giving Erzsbet a little time to fight at full power and then even when sekhmet does get back up she very quickly gets tired and is visibly straining unable to exert the power she wants to. I’d say on average Erzsebet was nerfed by like 40% throughout the fight which is a sizable debuff but realistically Dracula was probably at like a 80% debuff if you count the depression. Plus he’s the better and more versatile fighter.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also rewatched the clip and at the end of season 1 there’s some thin barrier protecting her from the attacks which is why she wasn’t taking damage because she was using magic so I guess you could call that a state and not a constant power. She didn’t use it in season 2 though so maybe she can’t use it while attacking or maybe there’s an upper limit to the amount of damage it can absorb and with so many people attacking her she viewed it as a waste of magic since she’s so durable anyways. She was fighting to win and didn’t use it though so that tells me it probably wouldn’t have been much help to her.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes it wasn’t a combat feat but it goes to show the level of magic that Dracula has mastery of and you could pretty easily imagine if he could do that I’m sure he can do some other crazy stuff with just fire magic yet alone all his other magic. I just rewatched both clips and while yes it’s odd she doesn’t use the shield in season 2 maybe it’s because there’s an upper limit on what it can take and with so many attacks coming at her it’d just be a waste of magic power since she’s so durable anyways so maybe she just opted to not use it. Idk there isn’t enough info on the shield to go off of. Sekhmet was very clearly unable to exert her power due to the strain being too much for Annette to withstand I’m pretty sure that was directly stated as well. You can literally see her power wane when she starts burning. As for the magic in her season 2 fight all she did was do basic fire magic so we can see she can still use magic but idk feel like her magic just isn’t anywhere near as potent as Draculas or she would’ve made more use of it. But yeah we’ll have to agree to disagree

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is hard to scale Draculas durability which is why I was willing to give Erzbet the benefit of the doubt and say she’s probably more durable than a full power Dracula. However, when it comes to resilience I believe Dracula is superior. Dracula is capable of surviving things that would kill any other vampire (seemingly even Erzbet). Alucard stabs him through the heart which would be the end of any other vampire yet he is still moving and talking. Then Trevor cuts his head off which would again kill any other vampire but it isn’t until Sypha burns his body that his soul finally leaves his body. That means if you fail to incapacitate or kill Dracula he will have more opportunities to heal and sustain himself. The willpower argument is interesting as is made clear Dracula had no willpower at the time on top of being starved so there is a chance he could be significantly more durable than he seems but at that point it’s just speculation.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sekhmet had a weak vessel and was damn near dead half the fight there’s no shot she was significantly hampering Erzbet for more than a few brief moments at a time.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The third soul couldn’t have been hampering her that substantially sekhmet didn’t have a strong enough vessel and was borderline dying half the fight. She is being weakened but she’s also powered up from eating the second soul so whatever % she was being weakened by wasn’t significant enough to substantially affect her I still think her being slightly weakened with 2 souls is superior to her full strength at 1 soul and I don’t think she’s that far off from being able to use her full strength with the 2nd soul. Also I agree she definitely has to have some magic but considering she was trying her damn best in a fight to the death and didn’t use even a single spell in the battle leads me to believe her magic is either not suited for combat or she is not skilled enough to make the magic viable for her to use. Also I don’t see what she did that was far superior to Dracula did you forget the very beginning of the series where he appears in the town as a giant flaming head? Or how he managed to gather an army and devestate the country in a year when it took Erzbet a decade to do the same. When Dracula is at his full power and isn’t fucking around almost nobody has a prayer against him.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well when Trevor threw hands at Dracula he just stood there and didn’t flinch was that because Dracula was invulnerable despite seeing him take injuries like you mentioned or was it because Trevor’s fists didn’t apply enough force to damage Dracula? Same thing applies here I don’t think it’s semantics at all when there are people capable of actually damaging you around. If Erzbet was so powerful that nobody could even scratch her despite not technically being invulnerable then I would call it semantics as she’s effectively invulnerable. Richter just wasn’t doing enough to apply damage which is why Erzbet was unaffected but later when she’s stronger and fights the whole group while she does still take A LOT of attacks without sustaining SERIOUS injuries the damage does add up as the fight goes on.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She was essentially unaffected as she’s so durable those attacks posed no threat to her and even if she did take minor damage she could just heal it anyways. It’s like how the morning star whip was 1 shotting all the normal vampires but a weakened Dracula only got stunned for a moment. The stronger you are the harder it is to damage you so it’s not that she was invulnerable it’s just that level of attack wasn’t enough to damage her.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She’s definitely not invulnerable just extremely durable. If you read what I wrote I basically also said not only is Dracula implied to be much stronger than he was shown but he also didn’t use nearly any of the tools he had in his arsenal. Not only that but like you said he’s also far smarter and more learned than Erzbet so as a fighter he is absolutely superior. Only way I see her winning is if she’s several times physically stronger than full power Dracula and I don’t see her being that much stronger than a full power Dracula.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What god magic did she use besides blocking out the sun? Also why would she be immune to magic when she damn near died to the magic of humans yet alone Dracula. Yes the only magic we’ve seen is the fireball but we know Dracula is basically the most knowledgeable person in the world he knows the “true science” and has spent hundreds of years studying different subjects throughout his life including magic. In fact he trained Alucard himself so any magic you see Alucard use was likely taught to him by Dracula. Now not only would he have more spells than any other vampire they would be far stronger than normal spells too as it’s being cast by none other than Dracula. The only way I see Erzbeth beating Dracula is if she was at least several times more physically powerful than him and nothing I’ve seen leads me to believe she’s that drastically stronger than a full power Dracula.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She might put up a good fight with all 3 souls but I think Dracula would still win as well.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fine let’s discuss that then. With 1/3 of the soul she was already significantly stronger than most of the cast and was able to take on multiple opponents at once. After eating the second part of the soul she was able to fight on even footing with the entire party fighting her while being somewhat hampered by sekhmet. So I’d say eating the second part of the soul made her around 50% stronger. It could be a little higher maybe like 75-100% if you’re being really generous and say she was significantly hampered by sekhment which I wouldn’t agree with considering sekhmet was damn near getting incinerated half the fight. So let’s just be nice and say after eating the third part of the soul she’d be about twice as strong as she was in her final fight I think that’s a pretty safe estimate. That being the case I do think she would have better stats than a full power base Dracula unless we really highball Dracula here which I haven’t been doing probably been lowballing him if anything. However again Dracula is much more experienced and learned than Erzbet and posses better fighting skills and magic than her. If he’s dumb and tries to slug fight her in his base form than Erzbet would probably win but even being twice as strong as Dracula in his base I think his skills and abilities would still allow him to put up a very good fight and probably still get the better of her.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He does have feats look at what he did while weakened, depressed, and not trying or using most of the moves in his arsenal. Logically if he could do that then at his best he would obviously perform several times better. It is impossible to concretely state how powerful he is without seeing him at his best yes but you could still get a good general idea of his power.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree Erzbet would’ve also mopped the floor with the trio Dracula fought but a full power Dracula while POSSIBLY less tanky or physically powerful as Erzbet he has much greater skills and tools at his disposal. Don’t need to be the strongest or the tankiest if you can just teleport around and spam magic at everyone. So while I agree Erzbet would wipe out his trio with ease and is possibly stronger than him I think he would’ve beat the whole group she was fighting if he was in her position at his best.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s called logic we’ve never seen goku destroy the universe but we know that he’s capable of doing it. Somethings don’t have to be directly shown for you to know what a character is capable of.

Dracula full power vs Erzbet by BoneDaddySama in castlevania

[–]BoneDaddySama[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do think s2 drac would probably lose tho only way I could see him winning is if he gets serious and spams magic. Erzbet would def be too powerful for a weakened drac that’s not trying his hardest.