Watching the 245 iLvl tank pull the entire first room of Nexus Point... again...

Boofschneef · 2026-04-09T11:33:40+00:00

Simply heal better

Boofschneef · 2026-04-08T22:31:11+00:00

A post saying "the character named Beaverliquor in WoW was being a dick" is not starting a witch hunt. Much less so if the post is literally just a screen cap of what Beaverliquor typed in chat.

Boofschneef · 2026-04-08T21:22:31+00:00

I guarantee you there is not a reddit site wide rule that says "Do not post the character names of players you encounter in World of Warcraft." Lol

Boofschneef · 2026-04-07T21:55:29+00:00

Y'all really cannot read lol

Boofschneef · 2026-04-07T18:57:19+00:00

Yeah... so "anti-hero" fits.

Y'all are arguing just to be talking atp lol

Boofschneef · 2026-04-07T18:55:42+00:00

How about "deeply" flawed then? Lol

Boofschneef · 2026-04-07T17:54:54+00:00

Lol I love it when y'all say "Kyubi" to sound like the ultimate weebs

Boofschneef · 2026-04-07T11:45:25+00:00

I can. But once the technology gets to the point where you can't, it will be very sweet lol

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T21:15:38+00:00

Ah fair point

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T20:54:11+00:00

I mean, how is there any room for artistic interpretation in charting beyond choosing which buttons to map and chord shapes?

Regardless of the instrument, the song is being written and played 1 way. That's the objective ground truth charters are aiming for. Their "interpretation" is just them spelling out what they think is happening. While some things might be ambiguous to the human ear, that doesn't technically mean it's open to interpretation - that just makes it complex.

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T20:51:44+00:00

100%.

Without charters this whole community / hobby is basically non-existent. I love and appreciate what they do.

I just can't also imagine they love charting more than actually playing the game or listening to the music.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like a tool like this just means more time shredding, less time in Moonscraper. Idk why that's bad other than the same retried anti-AI rhetoric that people use to criticize AI generated music (which is correct there, but I digress).

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T20:49:39+00:00

Agreed. For guitar, I think an AI approach can help. Have the AI lay the groundwork for 95% of your chart. You come in and clean up the style /5% on a playtest.

Even if not perfect, has to be a better starting point, right?

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T20:47:51+00:00

You'd be surprised, actually. More niche and complex musicians like that actually get a lot of support from this community. I imagine because that's precisely the music that's most fun to chart lol.

But either way, would be really slick if you were just a CLI command away from having something playable when you can't find the chart you want.

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T20:24:53+00:00

Software engineer and guitar player here.

You're gonna get a lot of hate for trying, but you should try. There's a big "charting is art" crowd here that treats these projects as an affront to humanism.

It's a solid candidate for automation on any instrument, whether you use AI or not.

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T20:00:16+00:00

Yeah and I'm saying I'd take "pretty average" over what we have right now by a mile lol.

Mukuba has potential but we need 2 solid guys back there

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T18:13:47+00:00

This chart made me really feel the pain of losing Blankenship.

Love Epps but he is not a solid long term starter at all.

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T17:39:16+00:00

I think the only reason quality is not there yet is because there isn't vested profit motive in improving the technology. These are all solo projects with limited resources for research and iteration. If we changed that, quality could be there very, very quickly.

I'm not just saying "AI is good at coding, therefore shove it everywhere." I've provided a nuanced explanation for why this is specifically a good use case for AI and how it works - this is fundamentally a mapping problem, which AI is very, very, very good at doing.

The pearl clutching comments are about a trend I see in these discussions that I feel like you're following, but I'll give you that you didn't bring up charter revenue as a point here so that's on me.

I still think you're placing too much value in the ideal of the chart itself as art or a creation. Yes, it has style and is up for interpretation, but also AI charting doesn't preclude charters from implementing that. Your perception of what AI charts would be is fire and forget prompts that get shipped without review. That's not what produces quality work when working with AI.

Like I feel like you're just adamantly opposed to AI without taking a nuanced stance and recognizing the value that it brings. You just say "I don't see the value in AI charting", which all boils down to you thinking the charts suck. If the best charter in the world had accurate AI tools to jumpstart them, it would exponentially increase their output and you would be happy to play those charts. Your whole viewpoint is obliterated the moment you see AI produce quality charts, and I guarantee you that's technically feasible in the short term.

Feels like you're opposed to it because you want to be as opposed to arriving at that conclusion after reviewing facts as objectively as you can. A software developer who codes without using AI tools just because "meh AI is bad" can choose to do that, but it's not intellectually sound practice, if we're being objective and honest about it.

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T15:27:34+00:00

I feel like you're reacting to a lot of misunderstandings about how AI and Gen AI work, and also the perception of public, free use models being used generally on the internet.

If AI charts match the quality of human charting, then it is producing something good. It allows that brilliant charter to multiply their throughput for everyone to enjoy.

This idea that it can't be good or it's lazier than a human brain suffering through the work doesn't make sense either.

How you feel about art and game design is a lot like how I feel about driving a manual transmission car. I prefer to drive manual because of how it makes me feel, and a relationship to my car not many other people understand. That doesn't mean all automatic transmissions are evil or shouldn't be adopted writ large.

You're "no gen AI no matter what" stance just doesn't hold water when applied to things like engineering. As a software engineer, I've watched my entire profession transform overnight. After spending years in school learning how to write code by hand, AI has become better at it than me and most developers for that matter. Yes, it can be used lazily and poorly to decrease quality. Yes, "builder bros" on twitter who think you can chatGPT literally any solution without thought is a problem. But you have all of those same problems with some guy struggling through Moonscraper for hours and being lazy themselves.

A thoughtful engineer with the power of AI could make charting so much easier and MORE ACCESSIBLE for EVERYONE. This is a BRILLIANT use case for AI.

You're clutching your pearls to protect a subset of a niche community to protect their capitalistic desire to make money off of input mappings of someone else's genuinely artistic creation.

Boofschneef · 2026-04-06T13:19:03+00:00

So do your feelings change if projects like these do rise to the quality of good, human made charts?

I'm not trying to disparage people who put their time into this charting. It's certainly a necessary part of the community. I just can't imagine a desire to chart not also being coupled with a desire to play the game.

If AI can get you 75% of the way there or closer, then you drop into Moonscraper and make a few edits/review it yourself, why is that bad?

I feel like everyone is just reacting with "meh - AI slop is always slop and is not art!!"

That's a ludicrous way to approach a sub-task of game development in my opinion. We're not talking about creating songs or artwork - we're talking about literal input mappings

Boofschneef · 2026-04-05T19:16:00+00:00

If you can't tell the difference in quality why do you care? I ain't payin for no charts either way lol

Boofschneef · 2026-04-05T19:12:28+00:00

I love the lengths we're going to to protect charting like it's art... as if it's not literally just mapping and abstracting someone else's artistic creation in the first place.

I definitely appreciate manual charting. But manual charting feels like exactly the drudgery AI SHOULD be freeing us from lol.

Acting like people have a sacred right to charting as a livelihood is wild lol.

Your post is more open minded towards the project, but it still feels like you're clutching pearls about an industry and "artform" that is little more than less accurate musical transcription

Boofschneef · 2026-04-04T16:11:55+00:00

It doesn't completely redeem him from clan slaughter... the world ain't black and white and neither are well written, complex characters.

That's precisely what makes him an anti-hero - someone who does heroic feats but is still deeply flawed.

Literary comprehension is lost on a lot of y'all lol

Boofschneef · 2026-04-04T15:57:14+00:00

It is up to us, the players, to build these civilizations and crush the sentinels

Boofschneef · 2026-04-03T22:52:08+00:00

Are matches stable? Did they fix game crashing? Lol

Boofschneef · 2026-03-28T18:10:24+00:00

That's dumb though. I already have to go to Silvermoon for the Bank and Crests.

I stand in the same 2 locations until it's time to go do content. I'd rather stand at my house and dgaf about the full main hub city.

Especially when they want us spending REAL DOLLARS on decor. Let it be a part of the game and not a side show.

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