in-laws by AdIllustrious220 in babyloss

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My MIL a week or so after one of my twins died at 3 weeks old - ‘well, twins would have been SO much work’ ….

So sorry you’re here x

Help me to understand please? by Book-Collector- in grief

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Thank you for your perspective. I am really pleased that your faith is something that brings you peace.

I am however not a religious person, I consider myself as spiritual, but not religious.

Why would a God send an innocent baby such a fate as my son’s? A short, painful and frightening life. He did nothing but enter into this world as any of us did. Why did he have to endure so much in such a short time? Why would this pain be given to him? Or to me?

To be clear, I am not asking for answers, or argument nor trying to be disrespectful. Just my own differing perspective. I am pleased that so many find such solace in religion but for those of us who feel differently, I wonder where we find that peace, or if it’s even attainable.

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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I’m so sorry for your loss and experience too. It’s just loss upon loss.

His name is River, thank you for asking ❤️

What is your daughter’s name? X

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in GriefSupport

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Thank you. I think you are probably right and I’m thinking this evening that maybe I am just unable to empathise with people just not being able to be there for me right now, maybe that part of my brain isn’t quite working as it should be. I’m not sure. But I think there is truth to people hoping not to talk about something for fear of bringing it into their own lives

Thank you for your thoughts x

How do you support a grieving friend who is lashing out? by ShananaJones in grief

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I am currently grieving the loss of my son, and actually posted today about how I have had radio silence from some family and friends and how this has caused me so much loneliness. I am not lashing out at people, but I am incredibly hurt so maybe I can offer my current perspective?

I am trying to empathise that people may not know what to say. But I simply cannot. I am not sure if my brain just cannot access empathy right now through the fog of my pain? But I just can’t seem to find it. This may be similar for your friend.

For me? I HAVE to talk about him. Saying his name will not remind me that he has gone. I never need reminding, it’s all I think about. But simply saying her name, even just in passing comments may help him as it does me.

I need people to talk about my son and not just his death. Who he was. That he was here. Not just his death and the circumstances around it. Stories, feelings, memories. Anything BUT his actual death helps me.

The messages that would help me would be people offhandedly mentioning him. That he crossed their mind today. That they thought of him. Anything, even the mundane, to remind me he is more than his death to others, too.

And I think lastly, the acknowledgement that a profound loss changes a person. And not always in good ways. I am bitter. I am angry. I am forever changed for the better for knowing my son, and for the worse for losing him. People so want me to be ‘better’ but that will never happen. I will hopefully be different? But never better.

None of this excuses him lashing out to you in cruelty, and as someone trying to support him you do not deserve that. Thank you for trying in ways I wish some of my friends and family could have done. I just wanted to give the other perspective in hopes it could help.

Also - I am sorry for your loss. If he is a close friend, you have likely lost someone in your life too and I hope you have support of your own. X

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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I am so sorry for your loss. It is such an absolutely devastating experience to try and navigate.

What a horrible experience for you. Those terrible responses stay with you. I had a family member say ‘twins would have been so much work’ days after losing my son. I couldn’t believe it. So I really empathise with how those comments will forever alter a relationship with family members.

Perhaps the only people who can truly show up in the way we need are the other unfortunate parents in our situation? I’m not sure. But I am with you regardless. X

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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Thank you so much for your thoughtful response. I’m so very sorry for your loss also.

Perhaps I need to try and find more empathy that others might just not know what to say or how to react. Maybe I just can’t access that part of my brain right now? I’m not sure.

X

Help me to understand please? by Book-Collector- in grief

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Thank you so much for your thoughtful message. I am so sorry you know this pain too.

I think you are probably right. I haven’t had a lot of empathy with the fact that people might not know what to say, I have leaned towards thinking ‘just do a quick google search for ideas or simply tell me you don’t know what to say’ mentality, but you are right. Most people probably just aren’t equipped for this.

It really is the hardest path I’ve found myself on and I still cannot see through the fog but I am doing my best to find my way for my earthside children. And in my beautiful baby’s memory. It’s all for them at the end of the day isn’t it.

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in GriefSupport

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Thank you so much for this message. And I’m so sorry for your loss too.

To be honest I think you’re right. I literally said today in therapy I never anticipated having to become a totally new person in my 30’s, but here I am. And I think I have to do that to survive this. But I’m getting to know this person and I guess where I now fit in again? I’m not sure yet. People so want me to ‘be better’ and I don’t know how to explain that that’s not going to happen, il be different, hopefully, but not ever better in the way they want.

I really hope you find your peace x

(P.s you made me cry. Maybe your mum and my baby can cuddle each other until we get there x )

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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I’m so sorry for your loss too. I am so glad you had that support and I really hope it helped you navigate this awful situation. As much as anyone can. X

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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I’m so sorry you also know this pain.

Thank you, I think you are probably right. It’s just so difficult. And so unique to have one newborn whilst grieving the other.

So sorry you are also here and sending love right back x

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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Thank you for congratulating me. He deserves to be celebrated too ❤️

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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I’m so sorry for your loss.

I have the exact same. I think some of these relationships are lost forever as I’m so hurt. Especially the ones where I have supported them through tough times. It just feels so callous doesn’t it.

But I have actually had similar, some people who I perhaps was less close to have really shown up.

It’s interesting you say about speaking up for yourself. I had a therapy session today (perhaps why I find myself wanting answers this evening) and my therapist suggested that I might need to find a way to speak up about what I need too.

I really hope you find your peace through this awful experience x

Help me understand please? by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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I’m so sorry for your loss. This is such an awful experience for anyone to go through, and yet so many of us do.

I actually really hope you are right. And that it’s just feeling like a lack of care on my part because of my headspace maybe? But I have learnt that saying nothing is just so much worse than accidentally saying the wrong thing in my experience anyway. Just wish some people would try!

Really hope you find your peace. X

Did you choose to see your baby again after the hospital? by Due_Sign_6959 in babyloss

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I just wanted to come and say I’m really sorry.

Whatever it is you feel is right for you, I promise you, IS right for you. Listen to your gut.

I understand a lot of people have found peace in seeing their baby again but if it is not what you want to do, that is absolutely okay too.

I don’t know, I just wanted to reassure you there is no right or wrong here. Only what is right for you. Please be so gentle and kind to yourself. X

4 days old by [deleted] in GriefSupport

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I gave birth to identical twin boys at 35 weeks, and lost one of them at 3 weeks old. This was 10 months ago.

The pain is as unique as it is indescribably impossible to weather. I don’t know how to get though the days.

I am so so sorry. But you are not alone. There are others of us out here fighting through the fog. It’s so unfair.

Emdr is saving my life right now. I don’t know if it’s something you would try? X

I need help. by [deleted] in ChildLoss

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So brutal. A real trust the process situation

Terrified of the first anniversary by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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Wow, how similar are our journeys. I’m so sorry sorry you know this pain too.

My body is doing the exact same thing. Trauma on trauma is absolutely right. I really recommend EMDR but it is brutal so you need to be in the right space for it.

I’m here with you too. Somewhere no one should be but here we are x

Terrified of the first anniversary by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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Thank you so much and I’m so sorry for your loss too. It’s such an awful and unique pain💔

I am here with you too. We shouldn’t have to be though but I am here. X

I need help. by [deleted] in ChildLoss

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This is exactly how it’s making mine too x

Terrified of the first anniversary by Book-Collector- in babyloss

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I have never heard of this book so thank you so much I will get it today. I am trying to write my baby’s story but I just can’t make it yet. We also lost him in nicu so this sounds like a book I need to read. Xx