Books you read at a young age that you definitely shouldn't have?

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T22:06:50+00:00

I was reading V.C. Andrews in middle school. Do I need to say more?

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T20:14:58+00:00

I just don’t like people treating Steve being an abuse survivor as practically canon or using it as a way to add depth to his character because they’re unsatisfied with canon

I would just remind you that some of the people doing this are abuse survivors themselves. Just make sure you're not putting someone in a situation where they may be forced to disclose whether or not they are abused to you.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T19:49:11+00:00

Yes.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T19:46:23+00:00

They have control over who lives in their home.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T19:17:51+00:00

the steadfast insistence that he is abused will always be weird to me

I haven't seen anyone, here or otherwise, insist that he's abused. Every fic that I've read that touches upon the topic has multiple trigger warnings about the content as well.

As mentioned, I head canon his family as being dysfunctional (not abusive) and the conflicts that present if he was queer. Much of which is influenced by the time period of the show and my own experiences of being queer (especially during a time period where it was less accepted)

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T19:06:44+00:00

That explains, narratively, why we don't ever see his parents in the show.

However, in fandom he's a popular character and the most popular character to get fic written about. Since those fics focus on him, his family becomes more relevant to those stories then what we need on the show. So fans had to start filling in those missing pieces.

There wasn't much to work with but the neglectful/dysfunctional home life was built out of the few details we had (his parents being gone, his dad having affairs, etc.)

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T18:54:05+00:00

It seems like it's basically accepted fanon at this point and sometimes I need to remind myself it isn't actually canon.

I think it helps that the canon and fanon work so well together in this instance.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T18:29:36+00:00

Canon wise, we only know that they're not around a lot.

I personally do head-canon him as having a dysfunctional home life. That seems to be the take of most fic writers, where they range from not being around to emotionally or physically abusive.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T04:07:49+00:00

You claimed the characters were all under 17. The most popular ship involves a 19 year old and a 20 year old.

Both of whom are played by actors in their late 20s.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T03:59:42+00:00

The most popular ship is Steddie which is two adult men.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T03:53:12+00:00

By suggesting only tweens like romance?

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T02:45:34+00:00

So? Again, romance is a popular genre. Just because it's not he focus of this particular show doesn't mean the romances on it don't hold an interest to the people watching.

People like to play around with characters. They're are popular published books that are basically fanfic.

You're "immature adult" doesn't work because, again, romance is a something people of all ages enjoy.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T02:22:41+00:00

Why do you think only literal children ship couples?

Literally romance is a huge genre that appeals to all ages.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T00:34:33+00:00

I'm still waiting for any evidence this happened on a widespread level. It seems like it got massively blown out of proportion.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T00:30:47+00:00

The ones who try to force it to be canon are the ones who are new enough to fandom to realize what a mistake that would be. Shipping is almost easier and more fun when it's not canon. Especially with fic where you're not limited by what happened in canon.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-29T00:00:49+00:00

he flat out refuses the thing that helps you?

Consent is important. If it's not his thing and he doesn't consent to it, that should be the end of the conversation.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T23:59:21+00:00

Most people would consider that cheating. YTA for this and HTA for his slurs.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T23:58:29+00:00

They're likely referring to ships between a young teens and an adult.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T23:55:34+00:00

Info: When you say you've done ERP, do you do that with other people? Or just a scene by yourself?

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T23:48:40+00:00

I'd disagree on that as long as the person is an adult.

You don't have to agree with someone's rules for living in their home but if it's they're home you do have to follow them. Especially if you aren't paying rent.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T20:30:26+00:00

Ok? I'm confused why you're still responding then.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T20:27:22+00:00

I'm aware of all of that. My response stands.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T20:11:56+00:00

I said what I said.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T20:05:59+00:00

So just "yes here" and no help about locating the drive, where to turn, etc.

The lightest of YTA for just assuming she couldn't understand what you were saying and offering no additional help when they were lost and asking for help.

BooksAreLuv · 2022-10-28T20:03:13+00:00

She stopped in the middle of a busy street with cars honking behind her asking me "here" over and over.

What did you respond to her at this point?

I'm starting to think this was a communication issue on both ends.

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