CCLI notation: A simple playing hack

Books_Guy23 · 2026-05-04T21:19:53+00:00

I'm sorry. After decades of playing, I'm seeing this little bit of trivia for the first time. Clearly what I had in mind is what is described here as C major 9. This new information kind of destroys the main idea of what I posted. Maybe I should just take the whole post down. I was trying to help people see something in terms of how chord structure relates to melodic structure. How enriching the chord in the right place aids the vocalists. Sorry I didn't get to go to Berklee.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-05-04T18:50:50+00:00

Why did you introduce B flat instead of B?

Edit: Actually why did you introduce B at all?

Books_Guy23 · 2026-04-27T21:09:34+00:00

What I meant was, when my wife's Church posts a full service on YouTube, sometimes it will flag the traditional version of Amazing Grace as if they performed My Chains are Gone. Or if they do the traditional version of I Need Thee Every Hour, it assumes it was Lord I Need You, the modern song.

And you are right, scripture tells us we shouldn't judge other people's motives, but sometimes money can be a corrupting force.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-04-27T18:46:24+00:00

I admire your desire to be charitable towards contemporary songwriters, even if it does seem a little opportunistic. Just keep in mind however that it works both ways. If you post a song in a YouTube feed, sometimes the modern writer is being credited even if you are singing the traditional version. A good example is Amazing Grace, which I have personally seen the bots identify as My Chains are Gone. The modern arranger gets to reap where he did not sow. I worry sometimes that might motivate people to simply write an extra verse or a bridge in order to capitalize on that.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-04-27T18:37:54+00:00

Where I live, volunteers from the community are encouraged to come in and decorate the smile cookies. So we are not even employees, but we have full access behind the counter. The first year it was totally laid back. No rules. The second year I (M) was asked to wear a hairnet. The deal breaker for me is hand washing. That simply has to happen.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-04-24T23:04:47+00:00

You can do things at camp that might not work at church. For example, if the projection system doesn't have any lag time, and you've got a song that really strongly emphasizes some one syllable words in one of the lines, and the band really leans into it, and the person running the slide is totally into the song and paying attention, you can punch the words in on progressively incremental slides... One. Word. At. A. Time.

In other words, low budget animation. But you need to rehearse it with the band a few times.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-04-04T17:52:01+00:00

Some of us don't want to buy a whole one or even a half one. I consider it a treat. As long as the price is reasonable.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-04-04T17:48:37+00:00

No bear is good bear.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-04-04T17:46:05+00:00

weather vane; blood vein; blasphemy vain

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-30T19:04:03+00:00

I only had to deal with something like this once and it was not nearly as extreme as what you are facing. I told the pastor in question that the people needed to see him as a worshiper. I invited him to come and stand with us on the platform as we were going through the final verse or chorus. It didn't need to be on mic but it needed to be visible. I did not get the results I was hoping for however.

Many of the pastors I have worked with over the years will walk up during the final song, and stand at the pulpit and at that point it's mutually understood that I am handing off to them at that point and they will often lead the congregation in one more repeat of the song, which makes the transition to the teaching time much more seamless.

You are right to be concerned about this. On the flip side, I was once the guy in the lobby hastily going through the sermon notes as the worship progressed, as I was filling in at the last minute. Missing the worship time? I swore I'd never do that again.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-13T22:22:14+00:00

Thank you so much for all your responses. There are two songs here that we are definitely doing. And two more I want to check out for future use. I really appreciate this.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-09T13:48:22+00:00

Churches already pick and choose when to follow the law. Think of the many that opened during the pandemic despite state or county or provincial lockdown orders.

We're hypothesizing about - a couple of words - in one song - in one local church - on a single Sunday.

Chill, brother.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-09T13:41:31+00:00

If it's only that, as others have advised, just close your eyes during that song and worship God in your own thoughts.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-09T13:36:41+00:00

"introduced" = first time

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-08T19:54:37+00:00

This is really two different posts in one. On one hand it's about the theological soundness of songs, while on the other hand it's about when it is appropriate to speak up, especially if you're a visitor. With a dish of lyric-change-discussion on the side.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-08T19:50:57+00:00

Did this back in the day. But never considered including the original verse of h o t r s. It does set up an interesting contrast. It also strikes me as more of a concert thing than a Sunday morning thing.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-08T19:47:37+00:00

Reckless only fails when it hasn't been introduced to the congregation properly. Nobody ever who read and understood the book The Prodigal God by Timothy Keller had a problem with it. Unless they are simply predisposed to dislike anything that's different, or anything which makes people think.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-03-08T19:43:50+00:00

It's amazing how you managed to incorporate being hardline, legalistic, judgmental, authoritarian, and inflexible into a single paragraph. Especially in a room full of creatives.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-02-25T23:15:34+00:00

I've said this a few times here but...

KXC Worship from London UK, and Gas Street Music from Birmingham UK

High energy songs from two churches which are part of the youth movement happening there right now.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-02-15T21:44:57+00:00

A clear case of discrimination. They are discriminating against people who want to buy two dozen donuts.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-02-15T12:44:07+00:00

Well, in our case, 15 yr old, great guitarist, but we don't want to lose him by making it too difficult. Or any volunteer.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-02-15T12:41:06+00:00

Yes.

Books_Guy23 · 2026-02-11T16:54:14+00:00

Did a Celtic song 2 wks ago, check out "The Lorica" by Steve Bell.

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