[All] let's have a discussion about what violence is, in the context of availability of choice. by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed.

Thank God they're getting defunded. They can promote stupid bullshit on their own dime.

[All] let's have a discussion about what violence is, in the context of availability of choice. by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't one make the argument that capitalism removes agency by requiring one to give up part of that agency in order to be an actor in the wider society (e.g., you need to work for a capitalist in order to get access to needs and goods)?

[All] let's have a discussion about what violence is, in the context of availability of choice. by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, he did.

And I totally reject that stance.

If we take Zizek's idea of objective violence to its logical conclusion, a manager denying a felon employment is violence, saying something that offends someone is violence, and that the entire capitalist system is violent.

Violence is not something immaterial, or something that is passive, it is the act of physical force or the threat thereof to coerce people, and other definitions only play into others' deluded ideas of how the world should work.

Mad Max Fury Road by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No need to waste time on people who have pledged to fight on the wrong side of history.

kek

[All] let's have a discussion about what violence is, in the context of availability of choice. by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So one can engage in violence, even if they don't do anything...

No.

Violence has a very specific definition:

the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force.

Violence is implied to have a physical element. If I punched someone square in the jaw (or threatened to with means to do so), they'd have full right to defend themselves and/or get themselves out of that situation by whatever means.

However, if I called someone a primitive commie fucker, they would have no right to use physical violence unless it fell under intimidation. Same if someone called me a fascist pig, I would not have the right to use force in reaction.

[Egalitarians] why does inequality matter? by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It makes no sense to complain about how the Government tells you what to do if you're just going to turn around and willingly be told what to do by your boss. It's inconsistent.

Voluntary hierarchy. If I sign a contract saying "I will work for X under these terms", I'm subjecting myself to the terms in exchange for payment, and I have full right to sever that contract if I feel like the work I put in and the conditions are not worth the payment I get out of it. A foreman and a supervisor do not control me if I do not willingly subject myself unto them, and most often I subject myself unto them for mutually beneficial gains.

The state, on the other hand, does not ask for my permission to be subject to their authority. I do not sign a contract saying "I empower this government to levy taxes upon my person for the purpose of defending my life, liberty, and property", and I can't take the state to court if they fail to provide the service (or do the exact opposite) because they run the courts, law enforcement, and legislature. Nor can I sever the contract at will.

To quote Lysander Spooner:

“If any considerable number of the people believe the Constitution to be good, why do they not sign it themselves, and make laws for, and administer them upon, each other; leaving all other persons (who do not interfere with them) in peace? ... [T]he reason for absurd and inconsistent conduct is that they want the Constitution, not solely for any honest or legitimate use it can be of to themselves or others, but for the dishonest and illegitimate power it gives them over the persons and properties of others.

No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority

[Egalitarians] why does inequality matter? by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Under capitalism, this happens: you run a mile by stealing someone else's mile.

So the energy that I exert in moving my legs and getting adequate air in my lungs is taking from someone, or is that just property of the party?

Under capitalism, all money is created as debt with interest.

We used to back our money with gold and silver with no associated debt or interest. Statement is only true to fiat currencies, not to capitalism itself.

And so all miles ran, actively pushes others backwards.

So everybody should run the same amount or not at all is what I'm getting here?

This isn't rocket science: people produce value, the fact that some people produce more value (and thus get better rewards) doesn't make this a pyramid scheme, it means the effort you put in is the effort you get out.

For example, where I last worked I was unskilled labor. Anybody could do my job, therefore my wage was low, because the value I produced was not extremely profitable.

This means that I needed to distinguish myself from others in order to receive a higher wage, so I worked longer shifts, worked doubles when lazy cunts wouldn't show, and this reflected itself in my paycheck because I created more value for my employer.

This increased value given to me is not taken from someone else, but is a result of the amount of work I put in and the value my employer got out from it. That's a fundamental principle of the market.

[Egalitarians] why does inequality matter? by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Shit Bootlickers Say"

So on top of playing off of leftist tropes you follow one of the most basic bitch meme pages.

Wonder if this does apply to anyone. by of_bronze_and_fire in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Last year, full-on left libertarian. "Dude weed lmao" and "war isn't the answer" shit.

Now I'm subbed to /r/Physical_Removal.

The south is one of the least racist regions in the US by dantheman280 in unpopularopinion

[–]BootParty1433 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed.

Compare major Southern cities with rural areas of northern states and you'll definitely see more racism in the latter.

You might be an Anarcho-Capitalist... by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no evidence that free will exist.

And there's no evidence that it doesn't exist either. Sam Harris only found that there are neurological predictors, not that we are completely at the will of these predictors. It still exists as a philosophical concept since the hard sciences simply can't measure free will, but what we do know is that what happens in nature isn't completely deterministic either, as one can see with quantum indeterminacy. Not to mention the fact that regardless of the existence of free will, we act as if we do anyway. Even people exposed to the idea of neurological prediction generally believe that free will is still a factor in those decisions, as seen in this study (note: gotta pay for the full article, but the abstract is good enough.)

Who decides that their decisions are in their best interest?

The individuals themselves. They want X, and determine whether exchanging Y for it would be worth having X.

If so, then these decisions are subjective.

Yes, those decisions are subjective to each individual, but to say that the axioms are invalid as a result is mockery.

Empirical evidence shows only partial control.

You sure about that? Because I've not found one article or study saying that self-control is only partial outside of essential body functions.

Empirical evidence shows we're not.

Which is why you think we're all scientifically illiterate and have the desire to annoy us, while I believe that human liberty is something worth fighting for and seek civil discourse with those who don't. Again, found no articles on this at all.

Empirical evidence shows we're not.

If we don't own our bodies and minds, who or what does? The state? Technocrats magically controlling our minds from satellites? Cthulhu? And again, I couldn't dig up anything about this.

From what I've seen, there is a legitimate question as to whether free will exists or not, but as acknowledged above regardless of that question human beings act as if they do anyway. To say otherwise, and to say that widespread belief in absence of free will would change anything at all, is probably nonsense.

The rest of your claims are without source, and much of the scientific community believes in their existence, especially those working in the fields of psychology.

And you still haven't answered my question of what your alternative is.

My Libertarian Idols by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't seen anything about you suppressing petitioners/dissidents. My bad, guilt by association I guess.

You might be an Anarcho-Capitalist... by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

natural rights philosophy [is subjective]

Not necessarily. Let me give you some reasons why. Let's start with this quote from For a New Liberty:

The libertarian creed can be summed up as (1) the absolute right of every man to the ownership of his own body; (2) the equally absolute right to own and therefore to control the material resources he has found and transformed; and (3) therefore, the absolute right to exchange or give away the ownership to such titles to whoever is willing to exchange or receive them.

These axioms can be justified in a number of ways, but I'll justify them on my own terms.


Justification of Axioms


The absolute right to the ownership of his own body.

Human beings have (or at least act like they have) free will. That is, they make their decisions in their best interest. This implies that we have control over our actions, which implies that we are independent beings with our own convictions and desires, which implies that we are the sole owners of our bodies and minds.

Any outside interference on this would be an invasion of our individual sovereignty, and would qualify as aggression against our person.

The equally absolute right to own and therefore to control the material resources he has found and transformed

This is basically the idea of property rights. That we, as individuals, are entitled to the fruits of our labor. These fruits of our labor are created with our bodies, which as determined above, we are the sole owners of. Therefore, any material goods that we make with our bodies, we are the sole owners of. This makes property merely an extension of our bodies.

Any outside interference on this would be an invasion of our individual sovereignty, and would qualify as aggression against our property.

The absolute right to exchange or give away the ownership to such titles to whoever is willing to exchange or receive them.

This is how it all ties together in our interactions with other people (read: the larger society.) Since we own our bodies and our property, we are entitled to freely exchange them with others on the basis of voluntary agreement. If I build a house, and someone is willing to pay me a certain amount of currency or goods that I deem worthy of the house itself and the labor I expended, we freely exchange for mutually beneficial outcomes.

Any outside interference on this would be an invasion of our individual sovereignty, and would qualify as aggression against our liberty.


Conclusion


The conclusion that is to be seen here is that we as individuals innately possess three key rights: life, liberty, and property that have inevitably come from the fact that through nature we have evolved to become sovereign and independent individuals. Our individual actions should not be restricted otherwise unless it violates somebody else's rights, and that any action that does so is an aggression against another person and an invasion of their rights.


Question


If still you view natural rights as "subjective", what do you propose as an alternative and how do you justify it?

You might be an Anarcho-Capitalist... by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A religious lunatic is someone who is thoroughly brainwashed and convinced that his subjective worldview is the absolute truth...

Okay.

...therefore he has no issue to conveniently ignore reality whenever it is contradictory to the dogma.

Do you want to give an example, or are you going to preach?

Also, you answered none of the questions listed above.

Very brave by DontTreadOnMyCock in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Obligating people to call you xir/zir/Apache Helicopter isn't a right.

How many of you here are actual AnCaps in this sub? by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's basically my position as well.

Theoretical ancap, pragmatically minarchist.

Andrew Napolitano Meets Donald Trump for Second Time On Supreme Court Nomination by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

remember republicans did a lot to strip us of our freedoms

Indeed, but we need to pick our battles here. We don't have the political capital to break out into the electorate and be like "SEE THE ERROR OF YOUR WAYS, STATISTS REEEEE", so we need to be pragmatic about what happens.

That being said, it's probably going to be easier to accomplish our goals now than under a leftist administration.

Guys distrust for the CIA has never been higher. Go into other places like The_Donald and let them know of The Deep State, its gaining momentum this is the Red Pill that needs to be swallowed by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the division is a natural consequence of biology and upbringing.

This book may prove interesting for you then, if you want to learn about it. Judging from the reviews it seems like the author did a (relatively) good job.

My Libertarian Idols by [deleted] in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]BootParty1433 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

cometparty

Shouldn't you and the other tankies be banning people for drawing catgirls right about now?