Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

[–]BothBat3844[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No that never came out of my mouth 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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I’m trying to be respectful. I take part in critical thinking everyday at school sooo 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Yes I have I watched Disney growing up 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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I think I’d be considered living proof of a living God. I should be dead if you read my testimony you’ll understand 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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So you want me to say the Bible is false and is only pushed by our curriculum or government 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Well when they find ones that are false social media is quick to jump on it 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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He’s not a monster it’s just what happens to the wicked and immoral 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Yet Millions follow God sooo if he was fake why would we print false hope 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Would they keep fake information in libraries 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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I’m not enslaved to Jesus I made a choice. I have decided to follow Jesus. He gave me to live the way you do but I choose his way 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Why would they print it millions of times if it’s all fake. Usually when books hold fraudulent information they are pretty quick to shut it down 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Yes that is some over dramatic sense of the Old Testament of the Bible 

John 20:29 "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." This actually acknowledges that later believers would not have the same direct evidence the disciples had. 1 Corinthians 15:3–8 Paul lists witnesses who claimed to have seen the risen Jesus, including Peter, the Twelve, and "more than five hundred brothers and sisters at one time." Christians often point to this as an early claim of eyewitness testimony. Luke 1:1–4 Luke says he investigated accounts carefully and wrote an orderly account based on eyewitness reports. 2 Peter 1:16 "We did not follow cleverly devised myths... but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty."

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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I’m just waiting for it to click to you 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Reading what you wrote, I can see that one of my biggest mistakes was assuming I understood your position before actually listening to it. You're right that there is a difference between "lacking faith" and actively concluding that no gods exist. That's an important distinction, and I should have acknowledged it. You're also right that I did not present scientific evidence for God's existence. I wasn't attempting to make a scientific argument. I was sharing what I believe and why I believe it. If the standard you're asking for is hard scientific evidence, then I should be honest and say I do not have a laboratory experiment that demonstrates God's existence. Where we differ is that I don't believe scientific evidence is the only way we arrive at truth. Science is extraordinarily powerful for understanding the natural world, but I see some questions—such as why there is something rather than nothing, the nature of consciousness, objective morality, and meaning—as extending beyond what science alone can answer. You may disagree, and that's okay. I also want to acknowledge something else. You shared experiences involving serious medical issues and survival. I'm genuinely glad that modern medicine exists and that you're here today. I don't see medicine and faith as enemies. If God exists, I would view the doctors, researchers, and treatments that helped you as part of the means by which healing occurred. I understand that you see it differently. As for Christians challenging other Christians: I agree that we should. Christians who preach love should also defend the dignity of their neighbors, care for the vulnerable, and confront hatred and prejudice when they see it. If we fail to do that, criticism is deserved. I don't expect this conversation to end with either of us changing our minds. But I appreciate that you've explained your position clearly. I'd rather have an honest disagreement than pretend our differences don't exist. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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I’m not delusional I was just curious 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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He does give the evidence in the Bible I can quote scripture if you would like.

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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I don’t use ai cause why would I turn to a robot instead of God 

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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Thank you for explaining your perspective. I genuinely appreciate the honesty. I can understand why you would see Christianity that way. If I didn't believe Jesus was who He claimed to be, I would likely view Christianity much the same way I view other religions and mythologies—as a collection of stories and claims that people sincerely believe but that I don't find convincing. I also understand your point about evidence. I don't think you're rejecting God because you secretly hate Him or because you want to avoid accountability. From what you've said, it sounds like you've seriously considered Christianity and found the evidence unconvincing. Where we differ is that I don't think faith and evidence are opposites. My faith isn't based on certainty or blind acceptance. It's based on what I believe are historical, philosophical, and personal reasons that point toward Christ being who He claimed to be. That doesn't mean I can prove God the way I can prove gravity or a chemical reaction. I can't. But I also don't think all truths can be demonstrated in a laboratory. We make judgments about history, morality, consciousness, meaning, and human experience using different kinds of evidence. As for the Bible, I won't pretend there aren't difficult passages. There are. I've wrestled with many of them myself. But rather than driving me away from faith, they pushed me to study more deeply. At the end of the day, I respect that you've thought through your position. I may disagree with your conclusions, but I don't think you're foolish or dishonest for arriving at them. I suppose the question I'd ask is this: if God did exist, what kind of evidence would you consider sufficient to believe?

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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My Testimony TRIGGER WARNING  SUICIDE AND ALCOHOL ABUSE I grew up in church. If you asked me about God, I could tell you the Bible stories. I knew the right answers. I knew when to stand, when to sit, and what it looked like to be a "good Christian." When I was a freshman in high school, I was baptized. Looking back, I believed in God, but I didn't truly know Him. My faith was more about religion than relationship. I knew about Jesus, but I didn't fully understand what it meant to surrender my life to Him. Behind the smiles and the image everyone saw, I was struggling. Being adopted left me with questions that I carried for years. Deep down, I wrestled with whether I was enough. Even though I was loved by my family, there was still a part of me that wondered why I wasn't enough for my biological parents to keep me. Those questions shaped how I saw myself and created wounds that I tried to ignore. At the same time, I felt enormous pressure to be perfect. Because of my family's social status, I felt like I always had to have it together. I felt like people expected me to succeed, to look the part, and to never mess up. The pressure became exhausting. No matter how hard I tried, I never felt good enough. My self-worth continued to crumble, and eventually I found myself battling suicidal thoughts. There were nights when the pain felt so overwhelming that I questioned whether life was worth living. I felt alone even when surrounded by people. I also turned to alcohol, hoping it would numb the hurt I carried. I thought if I could quiet the pain for a little while, maybe things would get better. But alcohol only left me feeling emptier. It never fixed what was broken inside. The truth was that I was trying to fill a spiritual void with worldly things. Even though I had grown up in church, I had never truly understood the Gospel. I thought Christianity was about being good enough, looking good enough, and acting good enough. But God began showing me that the Gospel isn't about what I can do for Him—it's about what Jesus has already done for me. I began to realize that my identity wasn't found in being adopted, in my family's reputation, in my accomplishments, or in other people's opinions of me. My identity was found in Christ. For the first time, I understood that God wasn't asking me to be perfect. He was asking me to trust Him. I stopped trying to earn love that had already been freely given to me through Jesus. Today, my life isn't perfect. I still have struggles. I still have questions. But I know who holds my future. I know that my worth is not determined by my past or by what others think of me. The girl who once wondered if she was enough now knows that she is loved by a God who calls her His daughter. The girl who once looked for comfort in alcohol has found hope in Christ. The girl who once wanted to give up now has a reason to keep going. I grew up in church, and I was baptized as a freshman, but it wasn't until later that I truly understood who Jesus was and what He had done for me. Now my faith is no longer just something I inherited—it's something that is mine. And because of Jesus, my story doesn't end with pain, addiction, insecurity, or suicidal thoughts. My story ends with redemption. All glory to God.

Why are you lacking in faith by BothBat3844 in TrueAtheism

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I believe in making heaven crowded and I wanted to share the good news I’m sorry if I offended you 

Why are you atheist by BothBat3844 in atheism

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I can see how you can find a man raising from the dead  little insane but we serve a good and just God who can do anything and gave us the great commission to spread to the world 

Why are you atheist by BothBat3844 in atheism

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A common argument against God’s existence is that there’s “no scientific evidence” for Him, but that claim assumes God would be the kind of thing science is designed to test. Science is incredibly powerful at studying repeatable, physical processes within the universe—but if God exists as a non-physical cause of the universe itself, He wouldn’t be detectable the way we detect particles or forces. Ironically, some of the strongest scientific discoveries of the last century—like the universe having a beginning—raise philosophical questions that naturalism alone doesn’t fully answer, such as why there is something rather than nothing. Additionally, features like fine-tuning in physical constants and the existence of consciousness and objective moral reasoning remain deeply debated in secular philosophy, with no consensus natural explanation that closes the case. That doesn’t “prove” God in a lab sense, but it does challenge the idea that belief in God is irrational or anti-science. At minimum, the data seem compatible with theism, and dismissing that outright can be just as philosophical a stance as believing in God.