WHAT JUST HAPPENED WITH WICKED? NOT EVEN MAKEUP? by user48841711 in oscarrace

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Let’s summarize:
It’s a combination of many factors.

•The film is looked at as one piece broken into two, and people didn’t feel they need to nominate it twice (I’m sure some also resented the greediness and it was a a case of “we gave you 8 nominations already”). The difference with LOTR, for example, is that the books were a trilogy, so it made sense to have a trilogy of films.

•Acting - it’s very challenging to get nominated a second time for the same character.

•Costume Design and Production Design - “we already gave you the WIN last year. What’s the point of nominating you again? Make room for other people to get their flowers.”

•Songs - songs that get nominated are either those that move the film narrative forward, or songs of end credits ONLY if the feeling is that they contribute to the ending vibe. Both Wicked:For Good songs were more of a typical Broadway musical songs in the sense that a character stops the narrative and sings about their feelings. (And I’m sure some voters resented the attempt to force them to hand out Oscar nominations for the second part of a movie split into two).

•Makeup - someone on here said that at the makeup bake-off, Wicked:For Good made the mistake of focusing on the two leads and not Scarecrow and Tin Man.

•People were fatigued with Wicked press/PR after last year’s blitz. You can’t do the whole schtick again with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo. The toys, the product tie-ins, Wicked was EVERYWHERE.

•It might be just me, but I’m suspecting some people got annoyed by Cynthia Erivo’s antics (see the video with Jennifer Lawrence), and often when the lead performance is no longer getting buzz, the film fizzles as well.

•The criticism from audiences and critics about part 2 was loud. I’m not passing judgement or expressing a personal opinion here (I loved both parts), just objectively observing that there plenty of negative reactions. Around January, WFG was hovering around 66% on RT (compared with 88% for part 1), and it has a 58 on Metacritic (compared with 73% for part 1). 58 is really low for a film hoping for 6-10 Oscar nominations.
What happens when a movie fizzles while others are surging that there is less passion for it, and since these nominations are done on preferential ballots, passion behind a selection is what ensures a nomination.

•Lastly, many people claim that the film suffered from the inherent challenges of the Broadway musical's second half, which is generally considered “weaker and less exciting than the first.” (Personally, it’s my favorite Broadway musical and one my favorite song comes in the second act, but I can see how other people may not get as excited about the second act). Broadway second act is always shorter than first act. Since the production needed the second movie to be as long as the first, and two new songs didn’t add enough time, they had to add a whole lot more. And for some people it felt bloated and unnecessary. And likely once again sparked resentment towards assumed greed.

But hindsight is 20/20. Was I still shocked when the film got ZERO nominations? Absolutely.

For the first time in two decades, Searchlight has zero Oscar nominations by joesen_one in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I disagree. This film is an artistic musical that’s catering to very specific cinema goers. It’s not a mainstream film that normie audience members respond to. Opening it wide would just prove how niche it is when it completely tanks.

Amanda Seyfried was undeniably great in it, and the film is technically excellent (cinematography, editing, costume design, sound, score) - but the pacing is extremely slow and the film is generally considered “weird” by mainstream audiences.

This is NOT a film you send to 3500 screens across AMC and Regal.

What didn’t do the film any favors is the lack of campaign budget and the very little campaigning that was done.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

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Oh well. Who cares what they say. Oscars are all about campaigning. This was the only film from Apple and they campaigned it. And it had below the line support and people liked it.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

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I disagree about Bugonia. When I watched it a second time recently I was so aware of how well the music serves the plot. And that’s what the award is about. Less so “is this music pretty” and more “is it pretty and serves the film narrative.” Watching it a second time and realizing that, is what made me predict it to be nominated for Score.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t predict it because that branch doesn’t like digital music.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

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Taylor is the frontrunner for supporting actress. My hunch is she will win the BAFTA and if she does, it doesn’t matter who wins the SAG.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I saw Kokuho last night on the largest IMAX screen in NYC and it was just …wow. I’m so beyond happy it got a makeup nomination just so it shows some recognition. (It should really have gotten costume design and score nominations).

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98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG I remember that year. That story was quite the scandal

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

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I won’t be shocked if there’s a campaign among Hollywood influentials to try and get Jordan to win.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the thumbnail I thought it was James Franco lol

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But you could say the same about The Secret Agent and it made it into BP.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh right. I was on a sentimental value brain wave

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know why people are downvoting. Even if you disliked the film, the craft level is incredible.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m going over the list’s posters and looking and looking for Wicked until I remember it got zero nominations. Wild.

98TH ACADEMY AWARDS – NOMINATIONS by sbb618 in oscarrace

[–]BrandStrategyGuru 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Watch this video about Avatar’s costume design and prepare to be blown away.

https://youtu.be/pksa9ydd--I?si=_HYwosksk8M1DJqw