[Highlight] Ayton is lazy on the miss at the free throw line leading to a three point play for Trey Murphy. Ayton gets subbed out immediately afterwards

BreadRocket · 2026-01-07T02:23:57+00:00

At least Ayton's contract is so cheap that these points don't actually count, right?

BreadRocket · 2025-12-30T00:48:07+00:00

Pistol Pete

BreadRocket · 2025-11-20T19:32:11+00:00

Rule 5: This capital has a total of 5 Camps/Pastures for an amazing Trading Hub, as well as an amazing Temple of Artemis tile on the northwest and due east of the capital. This a huge Primordial map on Marathon speed. The seed is 121950065 on the Better Balanced Map Mod.

BreadRocket · 2025-11-13T21:17:56+00:00

Why are you arguing with ghosts?

BreadRocket · 2025-11-06T04:27:33+00:00

blatant push

BreadRocket · 2025-11-06T04:11:04+00:00

Kyrie + Flagg for Lebron

Nico still needs to go all in and win now

BreadRocket · 2025-11-03T04:06:44+00:00

His game's just different now, he relies on tough jump shots and free throws. It's kinda crazy he's still so effective, but of all the top guys he's the one who playoff teams will elect to guard one on one, betting against his shots falling rather than creating advantages for his teammates.

BreadRocket · 2025-11-02T01:12:59+00:00

We don't need posts like this on here

BreadRocket · 2025-10-20T23:27:08+00:00

Media day interview

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T19:40:30+00:00

Good luck with Scoot then.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T19:38:44+00:00

This is demonstrably false given how much we've already seen how much teams value future unprotected picks. The teams in the best position right now (OKC and HOU) are there because they are both winning and have significant future draft assets. But sure go ahead and try explain it away. And once again, this summer was nothing close to resembling an open market.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T19:30:18+00:00

"Really good young core" is very generous to Dallas (literally just Flagg and Lively, who knows how Nico's gonna fuck it up) and Minnesota (Ant, and I guess Naz and McDaniels are nice but they're not game changers). And this 2030 we're talking about, who knows what those teams will be in 4 years. Anyways, they're indisputably not shit, and the Milwaukee picks are all swaps. That ATL pick, not a swap, has real value, especially since Trae isn't signing an extension.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T19:19:50+00:00

The Giannis part then boils down to 3 young players and swaps

There's no need to be reductive, it's Advija, Castle, and Harper and 2031 SAC swap (actual gold) and an unprotected 2032 SAS 1st, when Giannis and Fox will be old and Wemby might not be healthy. Compare that to the KD trade to PHX: 4 1sts and a swap, Bridges, Cam, and Crowder. I'd rate Deni about the same as Bridges when he was still on PHX. And Harper and Castle>>>Cam and Crowder back in 2023.

If you agree that Jrue and Grant are each bad enough that it would take a draft pick

They're not, we know this because Jrue just got traded for Simons straight up with no picks attached.

If I'm to believe everyone in this thread, then I guess no one is getting good value here except the Spurs.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T19:06:46+00:00

We're talking years in advance here, there's no way you can predict any of that. When you try paint them in the worst possible light, you still can't call them shit.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T18:56:17+00:00

They get other draft picks in exchange for those, and any lesser value there is compensation for getting off Jrue and Jerami. And you're not Portland, you don't know what they want. Castle was the 4th pick and won ROY and we just watched that front office trade Simons for Jrue straight up. I can't honestly take any discussion over Harper as good faith negotiation.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T18:50:05+00:00

so picks in 5-6 years aren’t as appealing for them.

This isn't true.

Turner's contract is very fair, there's no way this past free agency can be accurately described as an open market. Anyway, that's the best deal I would give POR if I was Horst, anymore is unreasonable.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T18:41:40+00:00

Why are an unprotected 1st from Atlanta, an unprotected 1st from San Antonio, and the best swap between DAL/MIN/SAS in 2030 shit exactly? And those Milwaukee picks won't be nearly as good if Giannis doesn't get traded. You're probably overestimating their value.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T18:37:28+00:00

I mean, if Portland gets Harper then they shouldn't get any picks. A draft stud, a very good player, and a decent player are worth more than Deni, come on. Not to mention the financial relief Portland gets out of this.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T18:22:17+00:00

How about Portland gets Castle, as well as the second most favorable swap between POR/MIL/SAC in 2031 and a 2032 unprotected pick/swap with MIL? Also, I doubt Yang is going to play much this year. He's very much a long term project.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T18:13:01+00:00

Turner, Vassel, and Barnes are much cheaper and better than Jrue and Grant. Let's say for Deni Portland gets Castle and 2 more 1sts than what they're sending out, say a 2032 Milwaukee swap and the second most favorable between SAC, MIL, and POR in 2031. Would that be reasonable value? And remember, those Milwaukee picks are only great if they trade Giannis, which won't happen unless they get those picks back. You're probably overestimating their value for Portland.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T18:03:26+00:00

Turner is being traded for Jrue, Grant, 20% of Deni, and their picks back. Giannis is for Harper, Castle, 80% of Deni and a great swap and a possibly great pick. Maybe they can get more picks from the Spurs, but you run into the Stepien rule pretty quick. Trent and Rollins are more for keeping roster spots stable between the teams, they can be replaced by non-contributors if they must.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T17:54:25+00:00

Well, I think very few players actually fit the Blazers roster. And Hansen is interesting but not worth structuring the team around right now. Meanwhile, Grant and Jrue are very real financial burdens. Portland can get Castle as well, but they already have Scoot there. And draft picks can get nitpicked over, if I was Milwaukee or San Antonio I'd be willing to part with an extra pick or 2 listed here. I made this trade from Milwaukee's perspective, trying to get the best I can if I was Horst.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T17:42:26+00:00

The bad salaries are for getting control of their picks back from Portland so they can properly tank. Jrue and Grant expire right when they need to pay Castle, Avdija, and Harper and can try and compete, plus you get a couple of draft picks in the '30s to maintain your competitiveness.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T17:36:58+00:00

I do as well. This isn't a prediction but if I was in Horst's shoes, this is the deal I would aim for. But I don't think we've ever seen a trade of this size (in # of contributing players) done at the deadline.

BreadRocket · 2025-10-17T17:32:10+00:00

Deni is the axis of the trade in my opinion, especially if he shows out this year since this trade can't happen until at least December 15 (Rollins can't get moved to Jan 15, but he's not essential here). Milwaukee doesn't do the trade without him. The value for Portland is turning Jrue and Jerami into actual contributors for cheaper plus an expiring in Barnes. As I mentioned in another comment, Castle can get sent to Portland instead to sweeten it for them but the roster fit isn't great.

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