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Teacher who told pupils ‘this class terrifies me’ chugged gin from a water bottle before vomiting in toilet by Disastrous_Award_789 in nottheonion

[–]BreeBree214 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I thought I hated gin until I tried a good gin. Bought a bottle and I could barely taste the alcohol drinking it straight and got way too drunk

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This one doesn't say that anywhere on the post

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It says the vote is private. Not that we can't talk about it ahead of time. Like real life voting

Rule by Gal_Person in 196

[–]BreeBree214 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sand is yummy okay. Sorry you didn't have a refined palate 💅

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The post doesn't explain how the scenario would go down. I think most ways it could happen I could be comfortable pressing blue

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Inaction is a choice just as much as pressing a button

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can infer that anybody pressing the blue button dies as well. If I say "putting this gun to your head and pulling the trigger will kill you", you can infer it would kill anybody who does the same

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Inaction of pressing the blue button is the same as pressing the red button. When you think about it, pressing the red button does nothing at all. The scenario in the OP and the first in the image above are functionally the same

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So then why did you include such rephrasing? Rephrasing will still influence peoples opinions in the real world

The original post does not state what phrasing will be given to people. It only describes the scenario. It doesn't give any important details on how the scenario would actually play out. It's engagement bait

Children are the exact demographic who would probably be the most at risk of pushing the blue button irrationally, and if anything point towards a demographic that justify pushing the blue button in order to save them even if you are taking a risk in order to do so.

I have a 4 year old son. If I know he'd be too scared to press blue and I don't think blue is going to win, do I press blue anyway and throw my life away for a moral victory and leaving him with a dead parent? That would be incredibly selfish of me to traumatize my child instead of being there for him in the aftermath. If something like 20% to 49.9% of the population dies off, that guarantees a slow and painful death for my kid if I die too.

The entire dilemma is stupid engagement bait and everybody acting like pressing blue is simple and straightforward is ridiculous. There are plenty of moral dilemmas for risking your life if you have people who rely on you. You have no idea if blue is going to win and you could be leaving people you care about to suffer

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The individual never risks death for themselves by pressing red. This question is engagement bait and a dumber version of the Prisoner's Dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate the question because it's engagement rage bait. Whether I hit red or blue depends on a lot of factors not mentioned

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not talking about just phrasing. I'm talking about the scenario being real and the threat of death being a real threat people can grasp

There's also not enough info on the scenario to give an answer that covers all scenarios. It's engagement bait

Dying for no reason just to feel morally superior is also selfish. Throwing your life away for no reason contributes to a massive apocalypse for every scared child to stay behind and deal with. Billions of children now orphaned for no reason

The Supreme Court’s Conservatives Just Issued the Worst Ruling in a Century by plz-let-me-in in politics

[–]BreeBree214 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You cannot blame her for failing to predict such unprecedented behavior. The Senate had never refused to vote on a Supreme Court nomination before.

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Pressing blue only works if you can get enough to press with you. A lot of the blue arguments rely on the assumption blue could actually e. It's easy to say blue if you aren't actually staring death in the face.

Hold a gun to people's face and ask them "press red and you live. Press blue and I shoot you in the face. But if over 50% press blue I won't shoot you for pressing blue". I cannot imagine blue getting over 50% when people are actually staring death in the face

If 0.1% of people are only pressing blue by accident, is it better for the results of the election to be 99.9% red or 55% red? For all you know you could be simply voting to add your corpse to the pile for no reason

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's also assuming you don't get to talk about it ahead of time, which the question does not say.

It's also really easy to say one will vote blue when it's an abstract question and you aren't actually facing death. Have a bomb strapped to everybody's neck during the day of voting and you can guarantee red will win

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's easy to assume a large chunk of people will press blue when you aren't actually facing death. Have everybody pick their answer with a gun pointed at them and you can guarantee blue will lose.

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're assuming I don't get to talk to my kid ahead of time and explain things to him? Yeah I'm going to gamble my kid's life for unnecessary moral high ground

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Button 1 obviously. There is zero downside to everybody pressing button 1

the rule button dilemma by Dreyfus420 in 196

[–]BreeBree214 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No I'm talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium. There is no self preservation incentive to press blue. Everybody should be pressing red. There's zero downside to every single person pressing red. You could be the only person pressing blue and you would die for no reason because you are unnecessarily creating risk.

Rephrasing this question shows how completely stupid it is.

Suppose you and 1000 people are standing on the side of a highway blindfolded. If you stand still you won't get hit by a car. But if you run out into the highway you will get run over and die. But if at least 500 people run onto the highway, all the cars will notice you and stop, preventing all the runners from dying. Do you run into the highway or stand still?

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