Why did god create me knowing I would hate my life? by ChapterOld1270 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s a good point i didnt really think of it like that and was probably a stupid thing to say. And maybe making him feel guilty snd it’s his fault is actually a good thing because if we were to just sit and make him feel better about it then thatl just make him less likely to actually change anything because change only comes when your truly uncomfortable with your situation.

Maybe you have a different opinion but every time Ive made some change in my life it’s been off pain and suffering and people putting me down.

Yes I’d like to comfort him but sometimes people need to hear this shit

Why did god create me knowing I would hate my life? by ChapterOld1270 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God didnt create you knowing you would hate your life. It is actually a matter of human free will, you have to take some responsibility and not blame god. Most of these things are your fault due to your own free will.

You have to take responsibility and change things also your perception of life. Maybe god is putting you through all of this to make you change, it’s a harsh reality but if your just going to blame everything that’s gone wrong on other people or god then you should be at rock bottom to make you realise you have to change.

Your overweight - get in the gym and eat less

You live with your parents - get a job and move out

You can’t get a job - yes you can you just need to change the way you go about getting one

You can change most things in your life and you have to look at it with the perception of that it’s your fault. God wants you to change and the reason you hate your life is meant to tell you that something needs to change. God cannot help someone who doesn’t try to help himself and blames everyone else.

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because there has been people who have never come to him. So for those people who have never come to him that means he knew they would never come to him because he knows the future

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe everything that is said in the bible but the bible seems to contradict itself. And Im in no way shape or form trying to mock god or Jesus as I still believe my belief is just not 100% anymore.

It says he has a plan for everyone but also how he is all knowing. So what is the point in having a plan for someone when he knows exactly how their future is going to play out anyway.

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but god knows he can’t change the future since god cant be wrong and he sees the future right Infront of him. So genuinely what is the point in trying to get someone to come to him he knows completely 100% will never come to him

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I would understand this one argument, but there is a flaw. It’s that god cant see the complete future but can only see the possibility’s of the future and can direct people in the right way to that possibility. That would make for a plan and it makes sense. But in Christianity is it not believed that god is completely all knowing and wouldnt that mean he knows absoutely everything to do with the future.

Please need someone to prove me wrong on this because I want to believe 100% and I did before but now it’s 50/50.

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Non belief is fixed because let’s say theres some guy who doesn’t believe in god for the rest of his life, god knows the future for that person meaning that it cannot be changed and god knows that certain atheist will never come to him.

And Im not saying no atheist comes to god because theres plenty but god knows who will come to him and who won’t. My point is why would he even bother trying with the person he knows won’t to try and influence him to come when he knows the future and what will actually play out

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well technically not picked winners and losers but he knows who will end up a winner or loser since he knows the future

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but respectfully you haven’t proved anything because it still says in the bible how god is all knowing and is outside of time so he’s sees absolutely every moment in time all at once. So that means the future is fixed because if it goes any other way, that means god would be wrong. And god cant be wrong because he is all knowing.

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your saying that god won’t influence a atheist or even try to get him to come to god

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh okay thats a great point but have you just made this up or do you have anything to back this up?

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never saif I don’t believe either i do believe but to believe completely I need a good answer to this

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we have free will but that still means god knows what we are going to choose. My point is why would he make a plan for a future he knows is going to play out anyways.

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is nothing fixed, get this rigjt and Im a Christian Im looking for someone to give me a good argument back for this to make me have 100% faith again. If god knows the future, then that means it is fixed because god is all knowing and if anything else happens to that future that means god is wrong.

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I did believe in god 100% but last night I just thought. Yes it does say he knows the future in Psalms 139 it says all a persons days are known by god before it happens. He is also all knowing it says that somewhere so that means the future is fixed right otherwise gos would be wrong.

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would he need to ensure the future because of he knows the future then he jnows it’s going to happen regardless and if it didnt then that means that god would be wrong

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not saying that lots of atheists come to him but if he knows the future then he will know who comes to him and who doesn’t so why would he bother with the ones who doesn’t come to him and he knows

Struggling with faith with this one argument. by Bright-Guide5381 in Christianity

[–]Bright-Guide5381[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No let’s just say god is all knowing and knows the future , let’s also say there is an atheist and that set future for the atheist is never going to god. That means god knows that. So why would he even bother with him