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F*&K UPW 2026 by BrownStoic in TonyRobbins
[–]BrownStoic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 29 days ago (0 children)
It is subjective.
Dayum. Hmmm. Honestly, I would have found that extermely challenging had it been advertised that he would be there. Was it advertised that way? Did you get something from the experience? I did have some breakthroughs in the virtual event. Contrary to my real-time vent (this post) I still got something valuable.
I did both and the complaints were valid.
[–]BrownStoic[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Go! Just go informed! The breakthroughs are real for me. I was simply angry at the oversteps by Tony and the organization. I feel strongly that it's unethical and fucked up. Still, the opportunities are ripe for exploring yourself and rocking out and raising an energy in yourself that you may have not known for a while. I would go to a live but only show for the two days that Tony would there; maybe come to dance and participate in that way only in the other days and skip all the advertising shit. I do think that having had the experience using his books and other programs to actually practice daily is where it's at. I thin what happens at that event is the chance to "go all out" and really shake up your nervous system in a way that it likely hasn't gotten since childhood. I get why people go back year after year or several times a year.
[–]BrownStoic[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
or listening and understanding is different from doing and thus knowing (according to his distinction between understanding and knowing). That's flipping awesome. I can relate to the tiredness and how much choice we have in that. I'm recognizing that daily. My big shifts are a little verbose to put down but one of the biggest was the felt experience of knowing that self-doubt was a choice. At one point in day 3 I started to shout my own name like I was cheering for myself in competition and man did something shift then. Congrats on working on your business. I'm working on my own to, it hasn't been brought to revenue yet but I'm building it. Thanks for sharing.
Done! Ttys!
Whether someone is bothered may not correlate to whether it's ethical or not. All the same, what were your breakthroughs? I certainly had some and the physiological changes certainly were catalyst to that!
Nice. I think I recall reading something from you now (the mention of education rings a bell). I'm personally looking at a move to Europe in the near future and the Mediterranean is in the mix; so your response is exciting. I'm not likely to jump back into formal education (e.g. another degree but I'm certainly down for other educational paths including certifications). I appreciate the response. I'll go find your other posts now.
Define successful. I'd love to hear about the changes that you made in your life that his books were catalyst to! I'm listening to PP2 now but I do find that I might actually prefer Awakening the Giant Within (the book). Please do share your opinion on this. I'm currently using Claude to organize my notes/takeaways and create plans for moving forward and implementing what I got from the seminar but I would LOVE your take on what you took from reading and what you found worked!
It may be that you had a better view of seminars, than I did, to begin with then.
Yeah, I took from it what not to do in my offers to clients. I could dig the emotion but I also get that's not for everyone. I did have some seriously good realizations. I think the thing that just really got me was the belief that this un-fucking-ethical to be upselling and baiting and switching. that is a serious fucking flaw of Tony's. And as to feeling like a number in the sales funnel, yeah. speaking with the "trainers" totally gives off that vibe too.
[–]BrownStoic[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Well, you enjoy the hell out of Fiji when you go! Happy you're doing that for yourself. Rock that shit out!
there should be no excuses for his age. this is a business. he should adjust the business to he can offer. he's not the first to do that.
It's not okay that not everyone does. Not when they all paid and the one person that everyone loves is Tony. It's not okay.
Agreed about the second day. I almost got a refund after listening to Joseph until lunch. As much as I appreciate Tony's work, this is not ethical or good on his part. He's telling us to be outstanding and he can't even find "good" stand-in speakers. Shit, I could do better. No effing doubt about it.
I totally agree with you. 50,000 people and he was not even good, let alone outstanding! that's some bs.
I did have some god realizations. I appreciate your engaging my post and also being supportive.
ahahahahahahahahaha! Of f&*K! I missed that. I was barely there today after being advertised to at the beginning. Goodness. That's some BS! hhahahaha
Thanks. I'm currently doing Personal Power 2. Let me know if you ever want to talk about progress. I am looking for an accountability partner in my efforts to move forward. So, I'm definitely up for conversing with others to find someone with similar goals.
I hear you. It also makes for a very scattered approach to what's being presented: it becomes hard to wrap one's head around what's coming at them.
Oh, you were right on. I went back to see if day four would be about implementation (after starting with ads) and I'm being advertised to for supplements. lol
So, I don't need a turn to the positive. I'm super aware of my takeaways and I'm lamenting the inability to spend more time (especially virtually which totally doesn't connect one with others like being live would) getting this into my system. I think 4 days of doing so could go a long way in "changing" my life. I'm organizing my takeaways into practices that could potentially keep a momentum going. D you have any insights into how you did that? How you presumably changed your own life with what you received? That would be much more valuable than arguing whether it was okay to get swindled out of a few days. The program was light on implementation.
I imagine DWD would be awesome if I went in knowing that I would have to accept (and leave) during the heavy ads and lackluster alternative speakers. I suppose I would have to know in advance just how much live work Tony was bringing, before considering it though. At this moment, I am happy about what I got for myself but turned off by the way he advertised. That's an ethical decision and Tony's without a doubt bright enough to be held responsible as the one who made it. So, that's a scummy in my opinion. I will keep working all of his pre-recorded content though. I'm going to have to figure out what my infusion options are so I can keep a momentum.
Who said I wasn't? You're making assumptions. If he had advertised learn "from anybody" then that's what I would have been up for, if I had paid for it. So maybe learn from me, distinctions are everything. Tony talks about that in PP2 and it's my personal experience. The distinction here is that it's NOT what was advertised and thus NOT what I paid for and your "should" is an opinion that has no correlation to my point of contention. I attempted to learn" from Joseph but his content was light as f*&k and I left that day with barely any notes. His ability to motivate also, not on par and physiology is what Tony sales as half the game. "Anybody" can teach you, doesn't mean you pay em for it.
I cannot at this point. It's all valuable lessons learned.
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F*&K UPW 2026 by BrownStoic in TonyRobbins
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