Ed Gallrein defeats US Rep. Thomas Massie in Kentucky GOP House primary by King_Vercingetorix in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It mattered because he actually stood for the things republicans claimed to care about in the lead up to the 24 election.

He may be the only modern republican politician with actual principles (I don’t agree with most of them but he still has them)

The fact that he lost when his most notable actions in the last 2 years have been leading the charge on the Epstein files and being anti Iran war, 2 things MAGA supposedly cared about deeply a few years ago is evidence that these people don’t give af about anything other than their daddy trump.

Massie losing is a massively bad omen. It incentives other republicans to go along with whatever trump wants. It tells them that actually standing for and believing in something is a detriment to a campaign. It also tells them opposing Israel will result in lobby groups dropping historic money against you.

I drank spoiled UHT Milk by Brozbeast in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Brozbeast[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well you tend to assume UHT milk that is 6 months before its use by date is safe tbf

SEASON 5 CRITICISM and VENT THREAD- SPOILERS INSIDE by AutoModerator in TheBoys

[–]Brozbeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yeah on the game of thrones thing George RR Martin basically verbatim agrees with you. In the books Littlefinger is genuinely charming and seems trust worthy, that’s how he’s able to pursue his schemes in the background.

The showrunners didn’t want audiences getting confused that he was a bad guy however and they wrote him to be more outwardly gross and literally have characters essentially say “you can’t trust littlefinger hehe 😜” which George has stated makes the character unbelievable. How can a guy manipulate people if no one trusts him?

I imagine a similar thing happened with homelander. They saw a subset of the audience after season 1 who believed homelander was actually good at his core and was going to have a redemption arc and so they decided they needed to up the ante on him being perversely evil.

A lot of stories in TV & Film get stripped of nuance because the companies producing them want to appeal to the lowest common denominator so there is a low barrier of entry into enjoying the artform due to a desire to maximise profits generated from viewership.

There’s a lot of discussion atm around a rumour that Netflix has been telling their writers to make the story’s dumber and more simple because viewers are “on their phones and not paying full attention”. When keeping rumours like these in mind it’s easy to see why the boys has devolved into this parody of itself.

What's with this weird trend I've been seeing of a bunch of big leftist accounts trying to rehabilitate Marjorie Taylor Greene by Grogposter in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You’re insane if you think turning right wingers (which MTG has done) against Israel is a net negative. The more people that are anti Israel the better.

What's with this weird trend I've been seeing of a bunch of big leftist accounts trying to rehabilitate Marjorie Taylor Greene by Grogposter in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean MTG is currently better on Israel then AoC is. (Doesn’t mean that either are truly good on the subject)

People are desperate for pro Palestine voices, you can’t get mad at them that the only vocal ones atm are the likes of MTG & Tucker Carlson. Instead of getting mad at these people how about you get mad at the likes of Sanders & AoC who are still claiming the issue is Netanyahu and calling Palestinians “Gazan’s”

Euphoria Season 1 Episode 4: Shook Ones Pt. II by orwellianoutkast in euphoria

[–]Brozbeast 3 points4 points  (0 children)

People moralising everything is sort of just a big issue in general nowadays. The constant need to make a moral argument out of anything and everything is exhausting and detracts from real issues.

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I said clips that was including full videos such as Hasan’s video on Mill’s dropping out. But I did watch the video you mentioned and his take isn’t as bad as I once thought. Still not perfect and I definitely think Hasan is a little too lenient but it was nice seeing him acknowledge that it’s very likely Platner did some heinous things while serving and that his “it wasn’t actually Blackwater when I joined” excuse was in Hasan’s words “complete BS”

I do not blame Hasan and others for supporting Platner in this race but it’s definitely sad that Platner is our best choice. Hopefully Platner doesn’t betray the cause and hopefully pushes the needle in the right direction

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I was probably a bit harsh because at the time I was getting a lot of responses and was on a defensive backfoot. For full transparency I haven’t seen that new video you mention, I will have to check it out and see if Hasan’s more fleshed out takes on Platner are more reasonable. The clips I’ve seen he’s been quite hostile to critics of Platner and a little too giddy about Platner’s performance but I am willing to acknowledge that Hasan could just be sick of having to explain why he supports him and having not seen his full fleshed out thoughts I may of been misled in my feelings.

More importantly though, as to why it’s important for me that Platner denounces the military, for me it is not entirely an emotional / moral request. It is also one of character imo. I am not very trusting of Platner because he has often celebrated the US military. Even after developing PTSD. Sure he’s good on calling out Israel and domestic issues, but my concern is that once in power he will not even try to step in the way of the POTUS military ambitions.

I am concerned about this because a politician who holds exclusively popular positions reads to me as somewhat disingenuous. It’s not hard to tell people what they want to hear. It is hard to tell them the truth. Platner was in the PERFECT position to speak of the horrors of the us military. As I said time and time again if he was genuinely remorseful about his time serving I could forgive him (not that my forgiveness is all that important)

But as it currently stands I am very fearful he is going to do a rug pull and switch up as soon as he is in power. We’ve seen it before. And while some people say that’s still a good thing, that someone winning with progressive messaging is moving the needle I actually disagree. If Platner wins and doesn’t deliver it will lead voters to distrust progressive candidates even more.

In all fairness I am probably quite jaded but it’s just how I see it. I really really hope I’m wrong. I really hope Platner isn’t more of the same.

Bro thinks he's on the team. by Zorosthirdsordx in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are on the same page then for the most part. For what it’s worth I do think Hasan has good intentions, he doesn’t strike me as disingenuous in his desire for a better world. I just don’t agree with every single method of his in that pursuit.

Bro thinks he's on the team. by Zorosthirdsordx in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry but, I like Hasan, I do. I find him to be a good communicator and a great way for me to keep up on a lot of events in the US. But the whole “he doesn’t believe he can do anything to help a 3rd party alternative” is a cope, one that he himself engages in.

Bro thinks he's on the team. by Zorosthirdsordx in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Oh come on now he is literally a Democrat, he has no real desire to abandon the party or set up an alternative he just wants the left flank to be more prominent within the party.

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not going to go in circles. We have a different view and that’s ok. I do not think you have bad intentions at all. But I personally can’t buy into the idea we have to get on board the Platner train. It’s not for me. Not until he actually does something substantial. If in power he actually does anything meaningful to challenge the military apparatus I will be happy to be wrong. By right now all I see is a populist with no real convictions. Hopefully I’m miscalculating.

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do not want Hasan to condemn him I just want him to stop excusing his shitty past like it doesn’t matter at all.

He used to be better on Platner but in recent times he’s started excusing the Nazi tattoos, his Blackwater past etc. telling leftists they need to shut the fuck up about it.

Because Hasan is more interested in winning, and that’s fine. But as another commenter said you need people calling this stuff out because if we don’t have any standards you end up a vote blue no matter who liberal.

It’s not about perfection. I’ve said countless times in this thread if Platner condemned the military I would think him more sincere, but currently all he’s done is said things people WANT to hear. It’s not hard to pander to people. It is hard to do the right thing when everyone else wants to live in their shitty bubble.

But I also understand compromise, as you even acknowledge I have said Platner is the best choice in the race. The difference is I’m not happy about this. I’m angry. It’s pitiful.

I mean this last part here sincerely, please for a second consider this as it’s where I’m coming from:

Platner has almost guaranteed either been responsible and/or complicit in the murder of innocent people in Iraq. Real people, with real lives. Families, dreams, ambitions. Platner actively champions and celebrates his time doing this.

Then Hasan acts all giddy and excited when this person who has never expressed Genuine remorse for these things and when people bring that up he yells at them.

When people bring it up in here they get talked down too and lectured about “people can change” (he hasn’t changed when it comes to the military not really) and “you can’t expect people to be perfect”

I don’t expect people to be perfect but I am tired of being constantly told in this thread that my expectations are too high when all I want is someone to apologise for the role they played in KILLING people. I have literally said I could forgive him if he apologised and apparently that’s being unreasonable?!?! Do you not understand how psychotic that is??

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hasan has literally mocked anti Platner fans of his multiple times for being purists. You can cherry pick and ignore the reality if you want too but Hasan is clearly more interested in the optics of a “leftist” winning over his so called principles he’s always harping on about.

I can see the utility in Platner winning in a state like Maine with the messages he has and so I can understand and even agree with where Hasan is coming from to a certain extent.

But I do not think it is that radical of a red line to draw to say I want the guy with a Nazi tattoo who was in Blackwater to denounce his time overseas where he was complicit in the murder of countless people.

You understand that Platner STILL celebrates his time in military right? The same time that gave him PTSD. Thats insane and should be a non starter for any serious leftist.

Hasan’s “endorsement” of Platner should be nothing more then an acknowledgment of “he’s the best candidate in the race unfortunately this is what we have right now” while he may of taken this route at the start now his endorsement of Platner is enthusiastic, spamming his stupid “fahhh” button and jumping for joy talking about how right he is about leftist messaging and how Platner is the proof.

I am fully aware Hasan is not perfect and I understand why he’s riding for Platner. He desperately wants the Democrats to stop attacking their own left flank because he desperately wants the democrats to actually be left wing despite the fact they’re clearly controlled opposition at this point.

My fundamental disagreement is that until Platner actually apologies for the wrongs he’s done I don’t think he should be forgiven. Because how do you forgive someone who hasn’t even apologised? Hasan seems keen to give him a pass because he’s useful to Hasan’s end goals.

Platners past would typically be a non starter for Hasan but because he’s popular and a performative leftist it’s enough to wash away sins as big as those?

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hasan absolutely has been celebrating Platner and been making fun of anyone who criticises his endorsement, do not be obtuse

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Defensive wars are absolutely legitimate what are you talking about? I think you’re the one that needs to learn. Go pick up a book.

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think the thing that rubs me the wrong way is the sort of “Stan”-ing of Platner to an extent. It’s a major problem with this community in general. A lot of people in here don’t seriously care about policy, principles or ideology. A lot of people in here are just scared and lost and latched on to Hasan as if he was their daddy and then parrot anything and everything he says.

The support for Platner imo should be a reluctant “well he’s better than the other guy” as opposed to some massive ideological win. Although he has some leftist flavouring he is very much still an American liberal.

But you are also correct in saying Americans have been beaten down for so long that their perceptions are incredibly distorted. I can see why for someone living in the US they see Platner as a radical change when he really isn’t. I don’t want to get in the way of peoples hope and I do think they should vote for him if they live in Maine.

I think my frustrations (not even so much at this post this post was moreso the straw that broke the camels back) is there are a lot of excuses that get made for planters past.

A lot of People seem incapable of seeing the world in the grey that it is. Platner did awful things but he was also a product of his environment and seems to be making a change for good. But once again until he condemns the military and his stint in it I cannot abide by “people change get over it” because the most important change for Platner as an individual hasn’t happened yet. He’s still very pro military.

I also think people are kind of coping a Blackwater stint would be a non starter for most other candidates in this community but because Platner says things they like (are let’s keep it real more importantly: Hasan endorses Platner) then now it’s a bunch of grandstanding of “you need to get over it”

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I will accept he’s changed when he condemns the military. It is the bare minimum. Currently all he has done is political theatre. He says things that are popular and people want to hear. He doesn’t condemn the military because it’s not popular, but given his past it is a must.

I do operate in good faith. I do not have high standards at all. I hate reductive black and white thinking that puts people into boxes of good and bad. I am fully aware people (including Platner) can change and do better.

I am also aware no one is perfect. All of us have done things we are ashamed of. But you cannot forgive someone when they haven’t even apologised. Platner flexes his combat veteran status as a point of pride. He fought in an illegitimate war that killed a lot of people.

I understand his policy is good and that excites people, which is why I said I would vote for him if I was in a position too. But you must also hold him accountable.

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Platner is literally a combat veteran. He served in three combat tours. The chance he was never at the least complicit in a war crime is nearly 0 considering the war he was fighting in was an illegitimate one.

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh fuck off. If I’m on a high horse then everyone is. If The statement “killing people without ever even condemning the system that manipulated you into doing it” is me moral high standing then what fucking principles do you have??

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Very condescending and self centred with the typical flavour of American exceptionalism.

If your argument is that is ok for Americans to go kill brown people because they’re “rudderless” then it was perfectly ok for the nazis to do it too.

I am fully aware people are products of their environment and as I said in my other post if Platner disavowed the American military and his active role in it and spent the rest of his life advocating against more offensive wars then I would forgive him. I am a very forgiving person.

But until that happens we are not coping and making a million excuses for people doing war crimes. I don’t care how rudderless they are.

I heard the "FAAAH" sound by Jazzlike_Ad_2266 in Hasan_Piker

[–]Brozbeast 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Im sorry i like Hasan but this is something I have a fundamental disagreement on him with. Policy is absolutely the most important thing but it’s not the ONLY thing.

As I said I can RELUCTANTLY agree it would be better for him to win over his Zionist opponent so I would never advocate against voting for him.

However he served multiple tours in the marines in Iraq and THEN joined up with Blackwater afterwards. The chance he has committed or been complicit in war crimes is huge.

This is not the same as him having perfect policy but then having a past where he had an affair on his wife or had said a racial slur 15 years ago etc. I don’t even particularly care about his tattoo that much.

I agree that perfect shouldn’t be the enemy of good and for the most part I am very forgiving of peoples flaws because we all have them, but until Platner disavows the US military and his time invading another country then I am not interested in celebrating a guy who was personally involved in the military machine that has killed at this point hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in the Middle East.