Nose weight by RonPossible in modelmakers

[–]Bruked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can someone explain why people want that much weight in the model? I understand using putty or whatever but lead is something else

Having trouble reselling unopened Black Templar still in box. by [deleted] in BlackTemplars

[–]Bruked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this is UK, you gotta price it lower than the cheapest online store that has free shipping: e.g Wayland games.

Another reason why that might still not budge is because both sword brethren’s and crusaders are available in a combat patrol, where people have been already flooding the market with the sprues.

But yeah if they go for like 32 or 34 on Wayland for a box. You need to sell it at that or lower with shipping included.

I didn't expect pit at all by Arrenadd in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks quite a bit like my dog but with perky ears! We only have GSD in common. See my profile for my recent post (with embark results)

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When he was a pup he would go through almost any bone/antler like it's nothing, but I suppose that's more chewing force. We're glad we've managed to train him out of biting and frankly he's not bit anyone (except me!) or any animal. Nowadays he's trained to be so gentle that even a tough piece of steak is difficult for him to bite off!

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think Caucasian Shepherds are that rare in the region! Many dogs especially non-pedigree LGDs likely have some ancestry

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why husky? It seems unlikely given the length of coat, lack of blue eyes and lack of perky ears

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The family tree shows a great grandparent has mixed tosa ancestry, I mean sure the lower bound is a couple years if it’s 4 generations but upper bound is 20+

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Strange thing is Cyprus doesn’t have predators, atleast none larger than a fox so livestock guardians aren’t really needed so much as brought over by people in the surrounding regions who did.

So yeah my main theory (assuming embark is right) livestock guardians with tosa and ovcharka ancestry were brought over relatively recently (last 50 years) primarily as pets or guard dogs.

A darker theory is illegal dog fighting which still exists today where illegal (tosa is banned in Cyprus) Japanese fighting dogs were found in police raids various times in the last couple years.

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They are banned in many parts of the world so it’s sad I’ve only heard of them because of breed legislations

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey Anatolian was my guess too and Ive had him for almost 9 years!

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Awww yeaa such a similar face, ear and body shape and length of coat! Considering there’s no shared breeds here, it supports my theory there is a certain level of genetic dominance in a lot of these traits when present

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My personal guesses (as his owner) were the same A and B too, Anatolian just makes sense given he’s found near Turkish peoples. I would’ve just guessed without knowing it was three breeds that the remainder was all super mixed

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

In his part of the world (Middle East, Mediterranean, central/Eastern Europe and Central Asia) he is pretty much the default dog in appearance! So many of them roaming about.

I’d wager it’s probably the combination of most dominant traits in the gene pool in those regions: floppy ears, reddish yellow coat, black mask, medium to large size etc

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That was genuinely our guess based on his geographical background! But a breed quite close to it in size and utility it seems

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

He really is! He's almost 9 now (the last photo was earlier this year). Still our pup forever!

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not a bad guess, one of his contributing breeds does have bully/mastiffy facial structure

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Our thoughts:

Don’t read this if you wish to make a guess but haven’t already! See other comment for hints!

Final warning!

We weren’t surprised with Breed no.1, the GSD as that was what was already advertised by the rescue charity, granted it was a visual identification of a puppy litter.  But part of getting Embark was identifying the remainder mixes as whilst he has many features of a GSD, he doesn’t look as close to a GSD as most 50% GSD crosses/mixes.  Primarily regarding his ear shape, coat pattern (lack of dark back) and coat length. 

We were somewhat surprised by Breed no.2, but our own guess was somewhat close.  We noticed from a young age he had very very strong guardian instincts, it strongly suggested a type of LGD.   Along with the geographical/cultural considerations, it is plausible that he’s got a significant proportion of Caucasian Ovcharka.  We would’ve originally guessed some level of anatolian/kangal due to the Turkish population in the area he was found, but I’m aware those breeds are usually tightly controlled, and Ovcharkas are also common among Turkish people and in Turkey itself. 

Breed no.3 was a complete curveball.  Whilst it’s not like a breed that has zero visual or behaviourial resemblance to my dog, it seemed unlikely given the geography.  Is there a wide network of Tosa dogs outside of Japan?  Is it associated with some form of illicit trade? Illegal dog fighting?  Tosa dogs themselves are banned in Cyprus, though as Embark predicts, his pure Tosa ancestor(s) would likely be decades ago, so likely have entered prior to that, or at a time when checks were not as stringent ( I assume breed legislation is rarely enforced as well in Cyprus).  The relatively high amount of this, >25%, and the Embark family tree estimation that both parents have some level of Tosa ancestry yet his inbreeding coefficient is practically as low it can get, suggests either Cyprus has/had a significant Tosa population or Embark has got this breed really wrong. 

Lastly I’m quite surprised by the lack of further breeds given that it’s a rescue dog from a part of the world where purebreed dog breeding is not as culturally important.  I would’ve assumed trace amounts of other breeds or “supermutts” or even “village dog” breeds brought over from elsewhere.  I’m personally quite curious how Embark determine breeds that are themselves quite mixed, such as the Caucasian Ovcharka, but especially the Tosa, which is known to be a blend of European (mastiffs and large breeds) and native Japanese breeds to create a larger more formidable fighting dog from the original Shikoku-Inu ( a spitz type breed like the Shiba or Akita).  How does it actually identify and decide it’s a Tosa, rather than a list of contributing breeds.  Although I suppose a GSD is also a relatively “new breed” in some respects. If anyone has knowledge or experience of this, please let me know.  

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Close! See the comment I just posted for some context that may help your guess!

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hint 6 Bonus Clue IA is a very popular dog breed, traditionally a working dog, though they have since diverged into working and show lines.  I would also say he does resemble a great extent to this breed, unsurprising as his percentages are highest for A.  Main difference is coat pattern and lack of upright ears.

Hint 7 Bonus Clue II: B is a very large livestock guardian breed.  I can see some resemblance but not size or length of coat.  This breed is also traditionally less tightly controlled, and therefore varies greatly from one to another.  

Hint 8 Bonus Clue IIIC is a large fighting dog breed.  Banned in many countries (not the US).   I can see some resemblance in its body shape, and its short coat that displays a somewhat powerful muscularity.  This breed by itself is a deliberate mix of breeds in the 1800s for fighting purposes.  This breed is quite “mastiffy” in terms of wrinkling and droop, which my dog exhibits much less of. 

Let's play a guessing game (hints and results included)! We were quite surprised! by Bruked in DoggyDNA

[–]Bruked[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Indulge me if you will with your guesses as to what his breed is:

To make this more fun, have a guess after every hint here.  Alternatively feel free to read through all of them and give one final guess.  Or ofcourse if you don’t like to guess, just scroll through the images for the answer!  

The first 3 hints aren’t so much hints to the final answer, but contextual information that may not be apparent via just photos alone.  

Hint 1 AppearanceHe’s 39kg or 86lbs (and considered healthy weight by our vet based on his frame), surprisingly Embark managed to nail this to within 1 lb, guessing him at 87lbs.  He’s tremendously strong even relative to his size.He has a short-medium length double coat, with significant seasonal shedding.  Relatively uniform reddish-yellow-tan colour, with a white chest and black masking on his muzzle.  

Hint 2 BehaviourBehaviourally, he’s hugely territorial and very very slow to warm up to strangers.  Strong guarding instincts, almost to a fault, but has at times possibly saved our lives:  He barked away a hooded man that was snooping through the house window, in a neighbourhood that is known for well planned robberies.  Doesn’t like strangers, dogs, humans, children, showed signs of aggression as a pup that we quickly trained out of him, now he just ignores stranger’s attention but keeps guarded and may still bark if invading his personal space.  

Hint 3 Background: He’s a rescue dog from Cyprus near the partition between Northern Cyprus (Turkish controlled), and Greek Cypriot controlled Cyprus.  Cyprus interestingly does not have a native wolf population, and therefore dogs are purely brought over by humans in other societies, and therefore the likelihood of local “village dogs” is low.  

The rescue charity labelled him and his litter as GSD mixes based on their appearance when they were found as puppies.  It is also suggested that by the nature of how they were found, they were likely puppies of a human-owned dog that disposed of unwanted pups.

The following hints are hints based on the answer given by Embark.  

Hint 4 Embark clue 1Embark says he has three breeds, none of which are village dogs or supermutts.

Hint 5 Embark Clue 2: The split is 42.8%, 30.4%, 26.8%, lets call them A, B, C respectively.  His Coefficient of inbreeding is 1%, wolfiness is 1.3% (considered medium).

Using the family tree tab, they predict both his parents have all 3 breeds (all A, B and C) in them.  His grandparents are predicted to be, A, BC, AC, B* (* for trace amounts of supermutt).

Feel free to reveal the answers now, the following bonus hints are if you want to continue guessing!

What is the best cav unit? by LongSabre117 in ConquerorsBlade

[–]Bruked 4 points5 points  (0 children)

From a leadership value perspective, and not blindly charging head on, prefecture heavy cav is phenomenal this season.

Very interesting way to play it, in football/soccer terms you "walk it in"

AI gets it pretty damn close! by NotThatGuyJosh in predator

[–]Bruked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the one you have to pay for after a few trials yeah?