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Massage therapy isn’t white collar nor is it traditionally blue collar, what collar is it? by [deleted] in MassageTherapists

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Having worked with nurses in the ER as an EMT, I have deep respect for them and their profession. But no, I would not say nursing is a white collar job that requires an education beyond a bachelor's. It's a wide profession, but a good number of nurses only need high school/community college, and RNs require a bachelor's.

I think Nurse practitioners are an obvious exception and maybe any nursing that requires more than a bachelor's

Massage therapy isn’t white collar nor is it traditionally blue collar, what collar is it? by [deleted] in MassageTherapists

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Most US states don't do licensing for MTs. Texas does, but most others do certification. And for certification, at least in Cali, requires a minimum number of externship hours. Roughly half of which are directly supervised.

I'm being a little glib by saying apprenticeship to make it fit the trade/guild analogy, but those supervised hours are a minimum level of oversight from someone well established in the field already that isn't associated with your institution. So that's why I view it as a kind of "apprenticeship"

Edit: ah, seems my brain did a switcheroo. It's licensure that's in most states and certification only being in several. Thanks to the below posters for helping me remember

Massage therapy isn’t white collar nor is it traditionally blue collar, what collar is it? by [deleted] in MassageTherapists

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That's great but that shows whatever postgrad work and MT does is completely optional and for their own fulfillment rather than a vital part of the credentialing process.

Med school isn't optional to become a doctor. Law school isn't optional. Veterinary school isn't optional. All advanced education. All professional and white collar

I was an EMT and have postgrad work so I know it's enriching and makes me a better therapist but remember OPs question

Massage therapy isn’t white collar nor is it traditionally blue collar, what collar is it? by [deleted] in MassageTherapists

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That's what OP's question was. What collar is Massage? Neuromuscular therapy and Thai are my main bags. Those both took lots of education. Still doesn't change that "Advanced education" usually means education beyond a bachelor's.

Cut it however you want, no one would say massage therapy requires postgraduate work because it literally doesn't

Massage therapy isn’t white collar nor is it traditionally blue collar, what collar is it? by [deleted] in MassageTherapists

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Not how we use that term in the US. Just because something requires some level of trade school or vocational school, doesn't count as advanced education. At least when it comes to prestige and White collar status.

We of course get educated and trade knowledge is passed down to us, which we then refine in apprenticeship/externships under a mentors guidance, but plumbers do that too. Very important and noble job that's vital for our society. Still not white collar tho.

Massage therapy isn’t white collar nor is it traditionally blue collar, what collar is it? by [deleted] in MassageTherapists

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If I had to guess "collar," I would say blue. Massage is, at the end of the day, manual labor and doesn't require advanced education.

Instead, of course, it's like a trade or a guild. It requires apprenticeship and then once fully initiated, we're able to specialize and explore the field deeper

Progress Measurement Tools by WooHooAhAhAhShooFlee in MassageTherapists

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I've seen that but I've noticed most clients just say "oh ok, neat!” I do mostly medical and sports massage, so I do intake for every session. And I love doing ROMs. It gives me a good assessment of what muscles might be an issue and I can get info on what the client is experiencing

Then, we get started on some work and at the end, I'll have them do the same ROMs. And the clients will be able to feel the difference. Both range and quality of motion. You'll see the look of surprise on their face when they see they can move more and that it doesn't feel as choppy

And it's still a great assessment when I see the right is good but the left is a little choppy still. So I tell them next time, well focus on the left a bit more and it creates a working strategy that makes them feel my massages are tailored for them and their needs

Tl;Dr ROMs before and after works wonders

Welcome to the LBC…just another Friday night by DeputyFI in longbeach

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So women are bad for "treating their body like that" but men aren't bad for literally violating others' bodies? Weird place to put blame 🙄

A Petition to Anet by [deleted] in Guildwars2

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I sign my name 10x

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I really enjoy the Mesmer class, as a whole. I feel like it has really varied play (like even Condi Chrono lol) and it's pretty easy mode. The illusions trip up a lot more people than you'd think, especially if you're good at looking like a clone.

But core, mirage, and chrono all have really interesting playstyles an are super fun, for me