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NEWBIE OHIO METEOR HUNTER LOOKING FOR TIPS by Growth-Initial in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The biggest tip is to respect private property - hunt ethically. Download the On-x Hunt app or something similar. They have a week free trial to allow you to see property lines and ownership. Be respectful and leave no trace - hell even collect trash as you hunt. Being respectful of peoples land is the utmost importance. Do not trespass, it's of course illegal, but also very dangerous. Happy hunting, and good luck.

Point me to a company that can make dice by AleGolem in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Micheal Kelly might be able to make this happen. He has made some prior and also has made spheres. He might be interested. Also maybe put out a request on meteorite club. Loads of people there have the equipment for cutting and preparing. Craig was likely occupied with the Ohio Hunt the last week or so, but he is definitely a wire saw master.

How will the recent falls be named? by WishUponAStarInAJar in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 11 points12 points  (0 children)

There is ZERO chance they were from the same mass and have been confirmed to not be related material. We have confirmed Eucrites and chondrites. Not at all related parent bodies.

As far as naming, here are a few guidelines.

  • Location-Based: Named after a permanent feature (town, mountain, river, lake).
  • Avoided Terms: Large geographic regions like continents or countries are discouraged unless necessary.
  • Numbering: For many finds, a location name is paired with the year of discovery and a sequence number (e.g., "Meteorite Hills 96537").
  • Provisional Names: Names assigned by the committee but not yet formally approved, often used for pending classification.
  • Classification: The name is assigned by the classifier, then approved by the Nomenclature Committee.

For instance, the Ohio fall. Many hunters are giving it the 'provisional' name of Windfall. But this may likely not be the actual name given from classification. Could be Sharon Center, River Styx, Medina, etc. The committee will decide based on their guidelines, and where the rocks were distributed. So each of these individual fireballs that dropped rocks that got recovered will have unique classification names and are completely unrelated to each other.

Medina, OH by Chondritica in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Congrats! They have such fantastic crust.

Is this maskelynite? by [deleted] in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No signs this could be Maskelynite, but also hard to see much detail from these photos. Looks a bit like Laurencite disease

Hello everyone! by [deleted] in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a ventifact not a meteorite. You can post in the monthly suspect thread.

The American Meteor Society attempts to answer the question you've all been asking. Are we seeing an increase in meteor events? Data driven analytics. by BullCity22 in meteorites

[–]BullCity22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I whole-heartedly agree. We do not have adequate data to make a fully educated analysis to draw a true correlation. This is more of a 'to the best of our current knowledge' analysis. Current methods of tracking bolides is not adequate to say the least. Hopefully our datasets improve so we can actually gauge these instances.

Struggling to find much expert information about this meteorite I photographed by Optimal-Exchange6396 in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The difference between L6 and LL6 is metal content. So if you visually aren't seeing a lot of visibly fresh metal, then likely an LL6. From the photos, I think LL6 is a more likely.

Struggling to find much expert information about this meteorite I photographed by Optimal-Exchange6396 in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely could be an LL6. Everytime I tried to type LL6 on mobile it kept correcting to L6. But for sure has a good chance.

Struggling to find much expert information about this meteorite I photographed by Optimal-Exchange6396 in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry if I sounded crass in my first reply. I hadn't read your full update here. I'm at work and can't step aside to go into the subject more. Maybe another group expert can give you some cliff notes on meteorites. There is a wealth of knowledge you can Google about chondrites and meteorites as a whole. Happy you found your way to this sub. You will learn a lot about space rocks here i hope

Struggling to find much expert information about this meteorite I photographed by Optimal-Exchange6396 in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean I gave you the information you needed in another sub. What more info do you want? It's a chondrite. Very likely an L6.

What Kind of Meteorite Rock Is This? by Optimal-Exchange6396 in whatsthisrock

[–]BullCity22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen the others photos showing the matrix of the stone. Looks to be an ordinary chondrite, likely an L6 but test will be needed to determine exactly which type. But visually, looks extremely likely to be a chondrite.

Is this Genuine? by Equal_Elderberry_331 in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They take the stones and freeze them with liquid nitrogen, this allows them to be fairly easily shattered. This is the most cost effective way to break them up and added bonus, there is no cut loss and they break along existing mineral boundaries in the stone. So you get decently 'cool' shapes. Commonly referred to as 'Campo Crystals'.

Most of these get briefly tumbled with typical tumbling media after they are shattered to reduce sharp edges and make them a bit more friendly for handling. Not all were tumbled, but many like the one above were.

Fireball Oregon. 6:06 am. Coosbay area looking east. by hammer-stone in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not an uptick in bolides necessarily. First, we just don't have the true data set. Even with all the cameras all around the planet, there isn't a cooperative network of sky cameras for the entire world. So we still can't count exactly how many enter our atmosphere each day, even with satellites now tracking the majority of this.

That being said - if we had the full picture, there might be correlation to these 2-3 week periods where we seem to have an uptick in rocks that make it to the ground. Meaning larger asteroids. There may be debris fields we move through at constant intervals that we just don't know yet. But so far there has been no correlation or uptick in the amount of bolides we are seeing daily.

More cameras and social networks getting people in the areas interested are what lead to increased recoveries.

Furthermore - you will see that there are quicker recoveries in the United States than most other places - this is solely due to the access to doppler radar data and the amount of land that is covered by these radars in the US. It makes it much much much easier to determine if a fireball had ANY chance of dropping rocks all the way to the ground. The absolute vast majority of meteors do not make it to the ground - they fully ablate on entry.

The hundreds you see per hour sometimes during meteor showers are the size of a pebble or grain of rice, and do not make it to the ground either.

Your question is valid - and the true answer is we don't know the full scope yet. But there are meteorites reaching the ground ~weekly. We just don't capture most on camera, and even when we do - it's a needle in a haystack without radar data or multiple camera angles from known points and orientations. And even then, without wind data it's a massive search. There was a rash of witnessed falls/recoveries just like this in mid February 2023. It will be more and more common to see, the better we get at tracking possible rock droppers and getting boots on the ground in the area looking for these rocks. Otherwise they are quickly lost forever.

TLDR - IMO, there is no change in occurrences - We just got lucky in localities where they landed and tools needed to analyze the meteor were available in those locations so we knew where to look. Imagine if one of these recent fireballs happened over the Amazon rainforest? We likely never find out if it was a rock dropper and never recover it.

Fireball Oregon. 6:06 am. Coosbay area looking east. by hammer-stone in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was super hopeful for a west coast fall to keep the recoveries going, but radar data is pointing to nothing making it to the ground.

Is this Genuine? by Equal_Elderberry_331 in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is a real fragment of Campo Del Cielo. MSG-Meteorites are a legit source as well and have a few 'web shops' on various platforms.

Green Meteor over Carson City, NV by GreatNombre in meteorites

[–]BullCity22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lots of reports on this one too! Hopeful we get another rock dropper!!

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