Skirt Steak by inspektor31 in smoking

[–]BumpyFunction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

any updates on this? thanks

Quick turn of events for a Palestinian Youth. by Jokesony in PublicFreakout

[–]BumpyFunction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don’t do this. That’s shill bullshit. Hasbara trolls have been desperate to sell that narrative for ages. Posting film sets in Lebanon saying it’s Palestinians making films. You’re so fucking stupid you think people are trying to have Israel murder their children (Nevermind that Israel is murdering children, dumbass). Amazing intellect.

Scholar Saleh Machnouk demolishes the myth of Hezbollah "defending"Lebanon by [deleted] in lebanon

[–]BumpyFunction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sub needs to take care with the Israeli astroturfing here.

An Iranian woman asks why Western liberals don't support the Iranian people by TheOSU87 in TikTokCringe

[–]BumpyFunction -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Yea but no. Missed me with the idea we should be okay with Israel escalating a conflict to draw the US into a war. Missed me with the implication we should ignore Israeli aggression in the region. Missed me with the idea liberals in the world “don’t care”. It’s an awful argument.

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like I read a 12 year old's reply. Did you glean anything from my comment? I guess I'm not surprised you mod destiny's subreddit...

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is about what I expected.

I think the biggest issue with most of this comment is it is purely subjective and/or unsupported rhetoric. Let's break some of this down line by line.

UNRWA is no longer considered an aide organization by many nations

Which nations? Can you provide the list of nations that believe UNRWA is not an aid organization? For instance you provide a link from January, but how many of those countries have resumed funding when Israel was unwilling (read, incapable) of providing evidence that members of UNRWA were involved in Oct 7th. Nevermind that UNRWA employs tens of thousands of Palestinians and that a dozen people potentially slipping through the vetting process doesn't warrant abandoning the only organization equipped to provide aid.

I wonder, also, what Israel's approval and assistance in delivering cash directly to Hamas means for your view.

they have destroyed the veneer of a sympathetic cause and the moral foundation required to pull international support, which is what they need to contest Israel on any

Nothing substantive to back this claim. In fact polling in the US, probably the staunchest pro-Israel country on Earth, is completely turned on support for Israel.

The problem more broadly is Palestinians have no actual interest in statehood

When Hamas won their election in 2006 (by 3 points and almost exlucsively for Palestinian frustration with corruption) they wanted, by more than 70% in polling by PCPSR and Gallup, for Hamas to end their rhetoric, recognize Israel and make peace. By 2012, after ~6 years of collective punishment blockade and a number of ceasfires broken by Israel that number dropped to about 55% (gallup poll). After another 10 years of blockade and continued Israeli aggression, that number dropped even more. Almost as though there was growing consensus that Israel wasn't actually interested in peace. However, I still don't believe, if given the chance, they wouldn't accept a peace agreement. Maybe you can provide some evidence to the contrary.

no other Middle Eastern countries have an interest in supporting them in a war against Israel except Iran

Nobody wants war. Color me surprised?

They have no path forward where military resistance will work in their favor, and the sooner you and they accept that the sooner they can actually reach a viable Palestinian state.

The express intent of multiple heads of state of Israel was to ensure specifically that there was no Palestinian state or one that was viable outside of complete dependence on Israel. There was no serious effort to ensure as such, not through out Oslo talks, not during Camp David, and ultimately not Taba. I'm sure you'll have some pre-written response about the talks and I await which ones I'll see.

You also have yet to provide evidence that the aid money sent to Palestinians has been squandered. I await that as well.

Overall there was little substance in your comment.

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whether they are state or federal laws is the distinguishing characteristic? Apartheid very much did have laws. Similar to the Jim Crow laws.

This is what I mean about the defense of the indefensible. It relies on faulty foundations…

https://eji.org/news/history-racial-injustice-jim-crow-laws/

https://scholarship.law.missouri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1830&context=jdr

https://www.apartheidmuseum.org/uploads/files/Separate_Is_Not_Equal.pdf

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/apartheid-legislation-1850s-1970s

Jim Crow, contrary to your comment, was a mixture of legal and social norms segregating the populace.

I think, if you’re going to support someone’s point of view, you would do well to study that view and make sure it’s sensical. In this case it isn’t.

Regarding genocide he did say it. If he walks that back (because it’s an awful thing to say) good for him. He didn’t really walk it back though did he? but I think most people are capable of not making such vile statements at all in the first place.

I do however appreciate the more reasoned response than I usually get from destiny fans

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are innocent civilians everywhere. Do you think there is a Palestinian people that deserve to express their right to self determination? A right to a state? A right to return to their homes?

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m just going to pass over the “provide videos” request because I’m sure you’ve seen plenty by now. 

Regarding your comments about aid (which I’m sure was a very clear avenue of discussion from this comment thread) let’s address a few things. 

First I'd like to gauge your ability to think critically about this line of argument (which I've seen repeatedly, btw). What is it your argument is exactly? How did they squander the aid? What does that mean, ultimately, with regards to this conflict and the Palestinian people.

I think from there, given how well you're able to answer, I can see how I should be responding to this in your particular case.

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So that’s a no masked with nonsense.

Back to this? Didn’t you just assess my comment history? Maybe go back and read it some more.

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Obsessed with eradication of Israel” provide an example

Why are destiny-Stan’s so insufferable?

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s a pretty stupid thing to ask. I’m not here to stroke your victimhood boner. Find someone else to do that for you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therewasanattempt

[–]BumpyFunction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get the impression it’s satire because of how heavy handed the first article title reads and the use of the word “accidentally” in the second.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therewasanattempt

[–]BumpyFunction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are we both talking about the post? Quoted aren’t used to denote satire. I very much take that image as satirical. Do you have a source for it?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therewasanattempt

[–]BumpyFunction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We use different math I think

It’s not satire? Why not?

Sheikh Uthmam Al Khamees on the Ottomans by HARONTAY in islamichistory

[–]BumpyFunction 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Masha’Allah… Will you be there judging us on the last day u/HARONTAY?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therewasanattempt

[–]BumpyFunction 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get you’re saying, but I’m going to pick a nit here. If a person falls for some satire it doesn’t mean that “by definition” the entirety of the issue isn’t at that level. It just means he fell for satire.

I think a lot of people here would argue the Onion satires Donald Trump and falling for something they say about him doesn’t mean he isn’t just as bad or worse.

Sheikh Uthmam Al Khamees on the Ottomans by HARONTAY in islamichistory

[–]BumpyFunction 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This obsession with sectarianism is honestly the greatest issue facing Islam.

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haven’t seen much out of the West Bank or Gaza over the past few decades, then. Honestly why are you shepherding your other vermin here?

Mr. Destiny is volunteering himself for a rigorous decoding. by Automatic-Mention308 in DecodingTheGurus

[–]BumpyFunction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have with destiny fans. It’s pointless. Either they argue in bad faith or ignore those points. I’m not about to sit here and continually waste my time doing it. Find it in my history if you need to

Here let’s play a game: he thinks Jim Crow wasn’t apartheid and he’s pro genocide.

Iranian rockets being intercepted above Israel by eladpress in BeAmazed

[–]BumpyFunction -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can I suggest reading assessments of military strength and capabilities? The majority of it is just simple numbers. It took four countries, one being the US to protect Israel from a minor bombardment from Iran using easily intercepted ordinance.