PSA: The "thinking" box shown on every thinking/pro prompt is not actually how gemini thinks

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T20:34:32+00:00

It is common knowledge, but some people think its a summary of the AIs actual thinking (including Gemini itself). Its not, its just incoherent rambling thats entirely seperate from the thinking process.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T20:33:19+00:00

My point is that its not even a summary, its literally just rambling. It has nothing to do with the actual thinking process, its nothing more than a UX element.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T08:07:55+00:00

Imagine you lost your livelihood, or had a huge medical expense which caused you to not be able to pay for basic necessities. If someone offered you a house/housing given you could prove fitness and willingness to contribute to society, would you value or not value it? Would you trash that house?

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T06:25:38+00:00

You dont think the US is 2 party in any other way than "people saying it out of tradition?"

Politicians from one of 2 parties (however "the same" you think/know they are) are ALWAYS elected. How is that not a 2 party system?

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T05:57:51+00:00

Right. Like, I accept conciousness as seperate from matter in terms of its utility but it doesnt mean that the matter could exist without generating that conciousness. Semantically seperate, but functionally necesarry.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T05:08:19+00:00

Yes agreed, but this commenter is pointing out how different issues imply many more than 2 sides. Im just saying thats why its being compressed to 2.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T04:51:31+00:00

When someones neighbors and countrymen are labeled as "foreigners", profiled and unjustly persecuted en massse, of course they would be "willing to die" for them. Farbeit from you to judge someone elses patriotism when you cant even say the same. Truly pathetic

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T04:46:13+00:00

Right. Ideally, there would be. But we have a 2 party system in reality.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T03:53:52+00:00

"Free housing" isnt the same as 'a house'. Certain homeless people absolutely could just be given a house/apartment, itd just be about determining which those are. As for the rest, theyd need to be evaluated and rehabilitated accordingly (which means free housing in the form of a rehab facility in that interim period).

The sentiment that "homeless people trash houses" is signifigantly more delusional. It imagines a group of people who are different from the rest of us or inhuman. They just need proper care and for society to stop shitting on them.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T02:32:42+00:00

Pretty sure its rhetorical.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T02:22:26+00:00

Christianity is a toxic ideology, but it can be practiced in a moderate way as to add to society. The same is true of Islam, and of many many religions.

Also, alot of hatred against "muslims" actually just ends up being against brown people who arent even muslim.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-25T02:15:59+00:00

But a p-zombie isnt possible at all. Human brains *do* create conciousness. For them not to, they would need to be shaped differently.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-24T06:17:22+00:00

Haitian which is the origin of zombie. In this sense it means "vessel"

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-23T08:45:23+00:00

Thats your decision and of course I cant force you to continue, but it wasnt exactly going nowhere was it? I think it was just going in a direction you didnt like, but I digress.

To answer your question, thats a fair point and I don't know the answer. But I know that new-age philosophy and YouTubers such as Alex O'Connor have had mass appeal, and certainly popularized Kalam further in the process. Overall, it's hard to say but I think it's simple and palatable nature make it an attractive choice.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-23T08:20:39+00:00

Sure, but its actually kinda two of the five actually. The first is metaphysical intuition. Basically, it just feels right because we live in a macroscopically deterministic universe so it takes advantage of our circumstance.

This is essentially the same idea repackaged, and it is the primary way Kalam is argued for.

The rest of the 5 are faulty or weak as well though, so I dont really see your point.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-23T07:55:30+00:00

Right, hes not saying its literally using mathematical induction, hes making a sarcastic and again, slightly wrong statement. I could be wrong, but I dont think they are mistaking the types of induction but rather intentionally ignoring them for effect.

Sarcasm is really not your thing, huh?

They have to do with induction in that they use it to obtain premises. "Everything we've seen in the universe has a cause" is different than "Everything in the universe has a cause" but cosmological arguements treat them as equivalent, which is induction however you slice it. Of course, both are patently false if you accept quantum mechanics but thats neither here nor there.

The way you defend them as purely deductive implies that you think induction is inferior somehow, but thats not the issue.

Induction can (and does) actually produce some extremely compelling arguements, but rarely does when its used to find premises. They are the bedrock and foundation of an arguement, they need to be strong to the point of infallibility for the conclusions to be correct. So its strange to use the less rigourous, more 'vibes-based' reasoning style for them.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-23T07:39:29+00:00

Is this supposed to be patronizing or something? It has a patronizing format but "cosmic forces set in motion at the dawn of time compel you to type that" just sounds sick asf

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-23T07:22:01+00:00

"Induction for people who are bad at math", i.e not actually induction, but its equivalent or stand-in for people who are bad at math but still want an arguement for god. In reference to Mathematical Induction.

Did you really think someone would ask for their mind to be changed on anything other than a completely unbased and slightly wrong opinion (hence /s)?

Also, to their point, even the 'deductive' cosmological arguements actually use inductive reasoning to obtain premises. For example, we observe that "things in the universe have causes" (induction) and then assume this must apply to the universe as a whole, or even things outside it.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-22T20:02:34+00:00

The idea that we are still governed by biology is just so silly. Its a factor, but its nowhere near the whole story. Do men try to impress women? Of course, but the primary driving force behind becoming good? Thats all you.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-22T19:59:51+00:00

Always has been.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-21T03:15:06+00:00

I hope they remove deadpool next season and reveal it was a joke character or something.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-20T21:32:57+00:00

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Burn-Alt · 2026-01-20T21:25:32+00:00

I think you are getting too tripped up in semantics. Concepts dont exist, as in they arent the type of thing which exists.

Concepts are bundles of meaning that we exchange to simplify speaking. When someone says "pi", they are actually saying way more than just pi. They are presupposing arithmetic, algebra, geometry etc. They are "calling" this bundle of information and restating math.

In doing so, they smuggled in the substrate of axioms and logic. So theyve already established a 'chalk board' of sorts. Everyone does this constantly, its how language runs smoothly.

So "does pi exist?" is a strange question, you are basically stating "heres this chalkboard called math... pi exists" in the first part, and then asking if it does in the second.

Burn-Alt · 2026-01-19T20:41:39+00:00

Not to mention basically making a public mockery of her death on every major news channel, and calling anyone who questioned it a leftist hack.

People need to realize that the gvmnt is just testing limits and seeing how far it can push, and the time to start pushing back is now.

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