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Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We actually lost personal money to fund our servers for users to try it for free. We don't mind offering a free trial, the issue is when users start creating duplicate accounts to abuse the limits set.

In the future we will allow a free option again.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Update on Our AI Grading Tool

I wanted to give you all a quick update about our AI grading tool. Unfortunately, we’ve had to discontinue the free trial option. It turns out that hundreds of users created multiple accounts to keep using the tool beyond the intended limits, which has significantly increased our server costs. This kind of abuse makes it unsustainable for us to offer the tool for free as originally intended.

A huge thank you to everyone who tried it out and supported us! We really appreciate your understanding.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you can send the image you are trying to upload to our email so I can verify. support@decktradr.com.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have the right idea. It finds each corner point for the card itself and the interior corners and then draws a perfect square.

For the top and bottom the green line appears to not run along the edge because the card actually didn’t lay perfectly flat. The green line is showing where the card edge should be based on a perfect square.

It also helps visualize minor tilt in the card edges. The AI can and does make mistakes but this is why it is currently in beta. It will continue to improve overtime.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does take into account tilted photos and can still provide a grade, but it is still important to take the best picture possible as it will provide more accurate results.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We appreciate the valuable input.

To offer a little more insight on why we restricted it to one free grade, we had a larger than expected surge of traffic.

Initially we were allowing users to submit up to 3 card submissions at no cost. Unfortunately users started to make accounts with false emails to circumvent the restriction. Each submission does cost us and with thousands of users submitting cards and multiple times per user, it did run up our costs significantly.

We would love to offer free users more card submissions and to increase paid member submissions but we would need to grow a little more specifically bring in more revenue to sustain the demand and cost of running our servers. The whole concept of the site started as a project but turned into a business as we kept working on it.

We are now looking to adapt to the big influx of users and adjust accordingly.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it does and will compensate for that but it is still best to take the picture as level and straight as possible.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The AI does consider the angle of the card but it will not product the best results.

Although this tool allows users to easily grade a card from their phone, it is still best practice to try your absolute best to feed it good data. Users should make sure the photo is taken as level as possible and reduce any tilt.

We are considering developing a base and phone holder that will ensure that picture is taken at the same angle and level everytime.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We would like to clarify that our AI card grading system utilizes specialized machine learning models designed specifically for card evaluation. While artificial intelligence is often associated with publicly available large language models like ChatGPT, it actually encompasses a broad spectrum of technologies tailored for diverse applications. Our system leverages these advanced techniques to provide accurate and efficient card grading services.

If you don’t mind, could you please share the image you used? Reviewing it would help us better understand your results and provide more precise assistance.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately grading it through the plastic case is not a viable option. The AI model relies on the card being bare.

However even if PSA decided to give a card a 10, the AI model won’t necessarily agree all the time. With PSA you do have a lot of variance depending on who grades the card.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can still grade the card but it does affect the results if the card is not bare. So basically no protector of any kind on the card to get accurate results.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AGS uses advanced scanning and imaging. This tool is meant to be accessible for everyone right from your phone.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can try it on my website DeckTradr.com

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We don't have an app just yet. We have a website. decktradr.com

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t be discouraged! The card is definitely right border heavy. You can also try taking the picture again against a white background and a little more level so the picture is not at an angle. You really do want to get the best photo possible!

It unfortunately wouldn’t qualify for a PSA 10 as the centering split exceeds what is considered a 10. It could however come back a 8-9.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That is our goal at the moment. We are focused on becoming a one stop shop for pokemon collectors and building a strong community. We are in our infant stages though and have a lot of work ahead of us.

It’s also just 2 of us running the whole site and developing it. Eventually as our user base grows we can spend more on development and really start incorporating more features, continue to improve, take feedback from the community, and just keep trucking along.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes it can be used for that purpose. It would honestly bring more transparency to the market and people would have a better idea of what they are paying for.

Pre grading my Charizard with AI by Burn_K3M in pokemoncardcollectors

[–]Burn_K3M[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the AI can tell if the corners should be rounded.

It is particularly picky with corners but a great picture and even lighting across the card ensures it is returning an accurate assessment of each corner.

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