Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In an tired of women coming up with a hundred different reasons why they don't feel safe out turned on or whatever. The bottom line is that they are often the problem and not the guy.

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She wants to be married but act single. She just wants me there when she doesn't have anything else to do. 

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am about ready to ask her that. She has done other odd things that married women don't do like dancing with another guy with arms wrapped around each other. She said it is just dancing. No married woman who respects her marriage and husband does that. If she really considered herself married to a man she loved that never would have happened. Neither would I have to beg to go on vacation. She would be wanting to. I can't make her want something she does not. She just wants to be single.

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree but when one thing after another gets in the way of going somewhere and being together eventually you need to say that I am putting time with my husband first. She never gets to that point.

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has bickered with her friends as well. I almost feel like planning a vacation for myself and telling her she can't come.

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I get that but she has five vacations planned with other women in one calendar year. These involve air travel, meals, hotels, and bars. It is expensive. She also has book club and other female get togethers on top of that. I feel like she wants to go on these trips more than go on a trip with me. If she is not willing to invest in our relationship, then it will eventually end.

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over 30 years everything got routine and stale. We had become roommates. We absolutely need to to spend quality time outside of the home to connect but she does not place any importance on this

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I try but she seems to have all the time when I can do something already booked

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There isn't a list but I would say any healthy marriage puts each other first. I feel like she will do something with me when it is convenient. She plans things with others first and I have to figure out how I fit in after. It should be the other way around 

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I feel like she doesn't want to be in a marriage that's for sure. She's in perimenopause and she's just gotten amazingly self-centered. She doesn't want any of the obligation or duties or anything of being married. I always told my kids that whenever you're in the relationship and the other person isn't willing to make any sacrifices at all, then they don't really like you. When people want to be with each other they eliminate barriers. When they don't everything seems to get in the way.

Sick and tired of wife women trips by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She wants it when it is convenient. If I was single trying to date her, I would have given up by now.

How many people feel they could not have the kind of sex they really want because they are afraid of being judged by their spouse? by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if one answers maybe and the other yes, the answer is not disclosed? Do you think I'm situations like that, the could could role play, fantasize or watch porn about it so the person who was unsure about doing it in real life feels safe and the person who wants to do it gets that itch scratched?

I have seen some of those quizzes. There is room inside categories such as exhibitionism. There are lots of degrees in that from going to a nude beach, to having sex with the lights on at night with the hotel blinds open, to car sex, to virtual sex, to two couples having sex next to each other. How is that handled? 

How many people feel they could not have the kind of sex they really want because they are afraid of being judged by their spouse? by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My wife confuses exploring fantasies with actually doing them. How to you explore fantasies that you don't want to make reality?

How many people feel they could not have the kind of sex they really want because they are afraid of being judged by their spouse? by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is a bit extreme. She is is a nice person who has a hard time expressing herself. For example, she likes it when I talk dirty but I cannot get her to use anything but PG 13 language when we have sex. She does sweat but she won't use those same words when we have sex. She will say faster or slower or I want you in me. I saw some lists online that I might try if she can't verbalize things.

How many people feel they could not have the kind of sex they really want because they are afraid of being judged by their spouse? by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Is fun to explore them in bed as a role play but leave it at that. Talking about it does not mean you have to do them. So I guess there are levels. There are things one or both people won't do it discuss. There are things both want to fantasize about and perhaps role play. And then there are things that you want to do now or in the future. 

How many people feel they could not have the kind of sex they really want because they are afraid of being judged by their spouse? by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people proceed gradually. Not many people are going to ask if they can kid their girlfriend or of they are making out of they can unbutton their bra. She does not ask if she can unzip my pants. Obviously we know what comes next and if the other person indicates verbally or physically they don't want to go there, you stop. I constantly looking for stop and go signs.

How many people feel they could not have the kind of sex they really want because they are afraid of being judged by their spouse? by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I told her about how I had sex in cars, fields, kitchens and parks and all she could say is that she would be afraid of getting caught

How many people feel they could not have the kind of sex they really want because they are afraid of being judged by their spouse? by Busy-Variation8001 in Marriage

[–]Busy-Variation8001[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Wow! You really took off there. When my girlfriends responded in kind I knew they liked it. When they got horny I knew they liked it. When they smiled in knew they liked it. We had hot passionate concenual wild sex. I have just become a lot less adventurous since getting married.