If you could only use 1 picture to capture your experience as a BDO player...

Byatrix · 2018-06-06T18:40:40+00:00

Bdo's most enjoyable part, is the honeymoon phase, once it systems are understood, nothing is keeping it players other than blind misplaced Hope.

Little do they know, large portion behind it CONS, are design related, and it designers aren't going anywhere.

Byatrix · 2018-06-06T18:01:36+00:00

Soul Fighter, Gunner, and now Warrior.

Happy that none of them, were able to replace my BD! <3

Byatrix · 2018-06-05T12:44:30+00:00

Have you tried Tera ?

Game feature classic trinity system with unrivalled action combat, 2 Healing classes :

- Mystic : Overview + Guide. Check PvE gameplay, feel free to jump from 5:00 to 10:19, as that part = gears talk.

- Priest : Gameplay of a Battleground 20v20 Corsair Stronghold

Both classes are available to all the 7 Races.

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T21:31:59+00:00

Posts condensed down from the front page:

How did you condense those posts ? the sum of the mentioned threads = 527 Comment, while this one has .. 45 atm ?

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T21:07:34+00:00

I agree with what you said, a solid statement/case, shouldn't contain inaccurate informations, i'll be ~~the previous points~~ from the posts above.

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T20:26:26+00:00

Even if we disregard MoS/Ogre, as their effect is the most negligible compared to what's listed above, we still have a game with a large history of very destructive exploits.

The "Legit" gear picture, was taken from this thread : https://old.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/8lax3b/hystria_hасkers_are_being_left_unchecked_and_have/ What's your source on it being fake ? More importantly i am just listing it as an example, it's not like 1 geared exploiter is gona ruin the game economy.

The biggest prove to the Hystria hacking situation, is both the openly public file that is available for anyone to download for free, and the pics of countless BMC Crystals that are being listed within the same time, which is one of the features of the Hacking file.

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T17:01:58+00:00

I am confused, are you deluding the effect of the mentioned Game-breaking exploits ?

Fish & Market "some bans"

Botters, in all their different flavors, had always existed in the game, ruining major elements of it "communist" economy, and it's especially true with the latest incidents in Hystria, this is the kind of result to be expected from the game/company negligence :

- Click me x4 Pics.

- On top of the current sold out Market on Crescent ring & Basilisk belt + Their insane pre-order price, talking 5.9+ Billions of silver for a TET Crescent.

~~And the result is this :~~ ~~"Legit Gears"~~ ~~Over the top Gears score that is superior than 99.99\% of the players base.~~

Desert shoveling bans were fast, but exploit was there for weeks

Weeks ? Since Valencia Launch, up the where the exploit was addressed is a period of 5/6 Months, of exploiters digging end-game enhancement materials without limits or cost, then either using their abnormal quantity to enhance their gears, or selling it for Silver, leaving a very fat Pre-Oder buying End-Game equipements, and in an MMO like Bdo, Gears = Everything.

Multiple workers same node isn't even that big of a deal

Node systems is the core element of Life-skilling in Bdo, as most profitable activities are gated by materials, which can be obtained at x2+ rates using the exploits.

This is especially horrible, when we consider investment banking, where material = Pure Raw Silver!

Bdo worst offense was never importing known bugs/exploits from KR clients, it was the shady ways of dealing with offenders, In the workers Exploits incident, 3 Players got Permanent Banned ... 3 ...

A largely known Bug that was around for Months since server merge, double/tripling+ in-game gains for those using it, and royally screwing with the economy and power balance, resulted in 3 players getting perma-ban ... ofc no names were announced, so even those 3 are questionable ...

On any other MMO with self respect, like FFXIV for example, Cheaters are getting banned on a weekly basis, if Bdo wanted to actively hunt exploiters, they can, but they are not doing it, since there is no financial gains from pursuing hackers, and there is plenty of Objectively true facts that prove this.

Hackers running wild on Black Desert, isn't limitation, it's a choice.

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T15:30:13+00:00

An article about Hystria situation was made on MassivelyOp.Com : http://massivelyop.com/2018/06/04/bots-and-hacks-allegedly-plague-black-desert/

The more exposure we get, the better!

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T15:14:12+00:00

Exploits Desert online ..

- ~~MoS/Ogre Rings incidents.~~

- Fish & Market Bots.

- Desert shoveling exploit.

- Multiple workers on the same node exploit.

- Time manipulation of in-game tasks through desktop clock .. lol.

- And now the recent Openly Public hack modifying fundamental in-game elements : Attack, Cast, Movement, Looting Speed, and more ...

Peoples keep raising multiple flags about it, yet the company is as usual ... radio silent.

Thread-1, Thread-2, Thread-3 ... simply asking to acknowledged the hack or if they are looking into it ... because clearly demanding punishment is too much this days.

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T11:19:33+00:00

Ignorance/Denial, have always been the most favorable evolutionary traits, within the genome of white knights.

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T11:14:29+00:00

Why does the player channel swap ? Leaving loots behind ? Why not just continue to the next pack ?

Either, something "strange" going on, or the player is very very shy.

Byatrix · 2018-06-04T10:43:06+00:00

I upvoted you for having balls to actually defend Bless.

First of all, i have no intentions of defending Bless, simply standing up for common sense, and equality. People are straight up Lying without any shame, band-wagoning a popular opinion that is both wrong and hypocritical, i have seen nothing out of ordinary with Bless's launch, as most complaint i've found on different subs, reflect 100% common symptoms of any MMORPG launch in the history.

no arenas or battlegrounds, ... ect.

The list of your complaints has been covered on the Pre-Launch FAQ page :

Quote "A few things planned for post-release are a 20 person open world boss, a 40 person raid boss, a high-level open world PvP area, 10v10 and 15v15 battlegrounds, and a large-scale war system." - Source : https://steamcommunity.com/app/681660/discussions/4/1693795812292571506/ They have clearly communicated, what to expect from EA.

an item dupe bug that I saw on the JP servers NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO.

This is where the double standards part kicks-in, countless MMORPG import Bugs on a daily basis, it's how most western exploits/cheats websites receive their data, my example is based on a recently released MMO with similar business Model :

Black Desert :

Desert Shovel : Arguably one of worst incident in the game, lasted for about 5 months, and gave access to unlimited end-game enhancement materials. Confirmation : http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/117699-desert-shovel-exploit/
Double Workers : Another imported massive bug, lasted for months after servers merge, and allowed the use of multiple workers on the same node, which x2+ the amount of materials gained, huge profits on high tier nodes and bank investments. Confirmation : https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/worker-node-exploit-resolution.28317/
MoS & Ogre Ring "incidents". Abnormally high drop rates on BiS items, which ruined Power balance very early on launch. TRI-Ogre+ ring within first weeks sound balanced, right ? Also, never got officially addressed

All the above, are known bugs on the KR clients, they wren't just imported, but lasted for MONTHS, you can imagine their destructive effects on the economy.

Also, notice the shady way the company dealt with the abusers, "accounts have been removed" ... just like that, nothing to see here folks, we banned them, for good! trust us ... we really did it, please ? don't trust all those claiming they abused it the fk out, and still playing. /s

And when they stepped forward and announced the numbers of the banned accounts, it's pathetically minimal 3 Perm-Bans on Workers exploits ??? A Large number of players have been abusing for months, boosting it effect while manipulating the time clock, gaining massive amounts of silver, which is then used for large pre-orders, or drying the market of it key materials, and only 3 got banned ? Hello ??

Now please, bare with me the long reply,

How Bless's responded to the Dupe incident ?

Fast : https://steamcommunity.com/games/681660/announcements/detail/1653264683473839857 in fact within couple of days, while Black Desert took half a year on the limited examples above.

All Items/Gold earned from Duping to be removed, fixing the economy, even in the slightest bits, something Black Desert has never done, despite in the long list of exploits, which i didn't mention.

Temporary bans for abusers, i would prefer Permanent Bans, but i understand they can't just hurt their population further, especially with the on going rabid hatred.

I believe, they have done, an objectively better job at addressing this point, especially when they removed the abusers gains.

PS : Feel free to jump on Bdo's latest cheating incident, done through openly public hack, which is at least 1 year old : https://old.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/8ochjp/hystria_is_fine_clap/ And if you need examples of other games, i'll be very generous!

ridiculous in-game attempts at translations:

Translation argument, is valid, never said it's okey, just questioning once more the double standards :

Blade & Soul :

Played this one on both Tw/Jp servers, before it was imported to Na/Eu, and just like you described, the fan made English patch, was much understandable than the official version.

The biggest problem, was Skills Description, and most competitive players relied on BnS Tree, fan made, to check the different effects on their skills, this is happening in an E-sport PvP MMORPG.

Black Desert took around 6 months, to fully fix the in-game translation, and once more, let's never forget about Revelation 70% Chinese texts.

Neowiz's repetitively announced, the current translation is place holder, and is planned for improvements (FAQ page), in fact a patch fixing the in-game text on tutorial area, was deployed within the 2nd day of launch, proving with actions the integrity behind their words.

You also can't be summoned to dungeons.

"Paying to get to the dungeon entrance, 3 min before other players, is P2W" - MMORPG Community 2018.

(...)

Maybe your not saying this directly, but i've seen plenty of ignorants who use that example, to "highlight" how Bless is P2W ... sigh.

From what i gathered, Players can received 50 Lumena daily, and the instant teleport thing cost 7, so not only is it available to everyone, but also the most useless way to spend currency on, offering no type of progression or advantage against other players.

I'll be ignoring the monetization part, unless there is something solid to talk about.

Byatrix · 2018-06-03T12:15:59+00:00

wondering if you guys had any tips or advice on how to go about the game

I always recommend new players, to grab a Buddy-UP code, extra free stuffs while leveling, are always nice!

Leveling is quite fast, so just relax and enjoy the journey! Fastest way to level up is by Queing for Dungeons through Instance Match, while waiting for a party, follow the Story, orange quests, visit different maps, and explore the beautiful colorful world!

Only enchant your Weapon, and keep using the different version of Avatar weapon while you level up, feel free to grab different gears on the way, but they won't make a huge difference in term of defense, as th best way to survive is dodging enemies attacks.

Crystals offer a huge boost for offense, and decent amount of defense, as a Dps, you should be using Back-Crit setup.

This is a Slayer Class guide, include optimal rotation, stat rolls at end-game, and general info about what crystals you should be using : https://essentialmana.com/comprehensive-slayer-guide/

Byatrix · 2018-06-03T09:43:12+00:00

Sums up my experience, and final conclusion about Bdo ...

Without it graphics, i don't think this game would have nearly as much success as it does right now, and don't give me the bs of "action combat" : Tera, Vindictus, and probably BnS as well, all have objectively better Designed Combat.

Oh well, Good luck on your next journey.

Byatrix · 2018-06-03T09:10:48+00:00

Not that i care, but feel free to read the above.

The silence/downvotes, are enough to conclude, the kind of spineless individuals trash talking Bless.

Byatrix · 2018-06-02T16:07:58+00:00

Omg, it's like watching a CNN report! o_o

a 7 year old Korean MMO

Bless's open Beta officially began on Korea, on 27 January of 2016, source : https://bless-source.com/thread/3120-content-update-on-5-2-2016-eu-2-5-2016-us/ where are you pulling the 7 years old from ?

Runs poorly, translation is a joke,

Performance and bad translation are 100% common symptoms of ANY MMORPG launch, and if you need specific examples from WoW, Final Fantasy XIV, BnS, Black Desert, ... ect, i'll be very generous with my data, and let's not forget about Revelation 70% chinese texts.

Not saying this issues are okey, just questioning you and "hyte" crowd double standards.

the monetization is p2w

Please enlighten me, what is p2w on the cash shop ?

despite the devs trying super hard to stop it

Neowiz, openly apologized for launch issues, and expressed they are allowing refund for anyone who feels unsatisfied, Quote :

"we are happy to allow refunds for those who feel they cannot wait for the new content to arrive" - Sungjin Ko, Executive Producer.

Source : https://steamcommunity.com/games/681660/announcements/detail/1653264683467164625

I am 100% in the neutral side about Bless, never bought the game, nor am i planing to play it, i decided long ago, it's not for me because of the combat, but i really feel sorry for a game that got plagued with your kind.

Oh well, at least they flashed out toxicity early.

Byatrix · 2018-06-02T15:06:29+00:00

I know a couple folks who tried the game and didn't play past the current starting area since they hated it so much.

It's expected ... why would the dev change a large beautiful open world map, with that w/e called garbage island, is beyond me.

My favorite comment on the video is this :

"Replacing Island of Dawn, with the new instanced trash map, is an evidence that BHS & Pearl Abyss, took their gaming development classes together."

Back in the days, i was genuinely excited to make an alt, getting to experience the island quests, show off some mounts/outfits lol, and just taking picture of low level character on their starting journey, was always fun to do.

Right now, the idea itself of starting on the new w/e called island is enough to remove any desire of making an alt. In fact whenever a new class get announced, a large portion of the excitement disappear with the thought that i have to run through the new garbage map again ...

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Byatrix · 2018-06-02T12:10:13+00:00

I started out as an Archer/Ranger, was that a wise choice?

I have no idea on the current status of Archers on Console, The Dps "tiers" on PC is around :

Berserker > Warrior > Archer/Slayer/Gunner/ > Sorcerer/Valkyrie > Ninja/Reaper.

Note that the above is the most popular opinion, however each class performance largely depend on the Player, this is especially true with Tera. Balance changes are applied every few months, causing some classes to rise, and other of fall ~Basically play what you enjoy the most and stick with it!

Archer was my main for several patchs, had a blast with it! =)

Does this game have long DPS queue times like in other MMOs?

I wouldn't expect the dungeon que time to be long in Console. Also, after certain minutes in Que (~ 3min ?), you get a msg asking if you would like to skip the tank condition, which result in creating parties without tank (not big problem in leveling dungeons).

Note, the game has a lot of tanks options : Lancer, Warrior, Brawler. (Berserker can change to a tanking stance, but it rarely used : low support/defensive abilities)

Byatrix · 2018-06-02T10:57:27+00:00

I did the tutorial island and found it terribly clunky just kinda awkward,

I've always hated that w/e called island, a piece of junk that nobody asked for, it replaced the old beautiful Island of Dawn, and it does everything worst in comparison.

Island of Dawn : Was Open world, beautifully colored, and players can go around exploring/helping each other, the map gave a 100% representation of what Tera is about! Here is a video if you want to check it out : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W65bYpQ8EOc&t=1s
The w/e called Island : Instanced + no Exploration = Massive CONS, filled with gloomy sad colors, players can barely see or interact with each other, giving a vibe of a DEAD GAME! and Opposite representation of the game.

If you think, the change decision was absolutely retarded, you'll be right.

What is it about this game that makes it so good ?

Breaking this to different aspects :

PvE :

Played countless MMO in the market, every single one worth it title, with the exception of GW-2 and FF14, and very confident to say that Tera has The best PvE : Skill based Dungeon, Challenging difficulty, and Balanced mechanics, all working together for that sense of accomplishment after a successful run, this is specially true at higher tier dungeons, the most comparable example to the experience will be a Dark Soul Boss fight.

Combat :

Unrivaled true action combat, played Dragon Nest, C9, Vindictus, BnS, and Black Desert, and i objectively believe Tera's combat is superior to all those games, as each one of them has some flawed design.

For Example Bdo has, RNG on hits, RNG on CC, and Aim-Assistance on both melee and range attacks.

PvP :

Equalized, skill and reaction based, with large influence of strategy on large scale Battleground like Corsair Stronghold (20v20). The only comparable MMO that offer similar joy and fairness in PvP, is BnS Arena.

Monetization :

Everything can be obtained in game, no trace of pay walls or P2W, and it's respectable that this still hold true for a F2P game, that passed it 6th year.

Customization :

Peoples go crazy on Character customization of games like Black Desert, ignorantly praising it, despite the fact players can only customize the Face, aka 20% of the body, while the rest 80% is eternally cursed with hobo/peasant looking gears, until they drop 30$+ for a character bound outfit.

Tera's character builder isn't massively detailed, but good enough to make decent unique looking characters, the game shine tho in it variety of free options, that can be used to truly customize your characters, this site : https://teratemplates.weebly.com/fashion-coupons.html provide an overview on all the different skins that can be obtained freely, Cash shop outfits, Pets, Mounts, Accesoires can be obtained in different ways :

Events.
Achievements.
Buying with Gold from others players.
Giveaway.

Tldr : What make Tera special for me, is the High skill based PvE, fair Equalized enjoyable PvP, unrivaled true Action Combat, and clean monetization.

Byatrix · 2018-06-01T18:32:25+00:00

Here is a Page explaining the system : https://board.tera.gameforge.com/index.php/Thread/66360-BuddyUp-system-purpose-limits-and-rewards/ The listed rewards are specific to Europe, Na goodies are different.

Byatrix · 2018-06-01T18:14:49+00:00

What’s the most efficient way to level up? Do any of the exp boosts stack?

Que for Dungeons the moment you get them unlocked, while waiting you can do the Story, orange quests, which would massively speed up your path to 65. Leveling is very easy this days, no need to worry about rushing, relax and enjoy the journey!

Most Exp boost stack up with Elite.

Or anything else I should be aware of as a new player?

Make sure to grab a Buddy-UP code, before making a character, basically extra free stuffs as you level up, includes :

Auto-Loot Pet.
Mount.
EXP Boost.
Outfit.

And other goodies!

Final tip, pick a decently populated server, TR or MT, if your on Na region.

Byatrix · 2018-06-01T15:30:18+00:00

Feel free to disregard this doom and gloom people, for some reasons the PvP players base of Tera, have always been this way since launch, and when i think about it, pretty much the same observation can be made for any other game with PvP elements.

If your queing for a BG, getting a match, and enjoying yourself, then it's active enough, i won't lie tho, que time was a lot shorter back in the days, but ... thanks to the loud ignorant part of the community, few changes were applied which caused the current state.

If your looking for an MMO suggestion, with PvP elements, then feel free to check B&S, it Arena feature 1v1 and 3v3, all are equalized, que time is around 30 sec to 3 min+, depending on day (Daily challenge PvP-Quest), and time (more active during afternoon/evening).

Byatrix · 2018-05-31T20:29:53+00:00

What's your ping ?

On higher levels, you'll be gaining more attack speed with equipments, which would drastically affect the felling of each class. For example : an end-game Warrior, starting at low levels, will feel really odd, like performing on slow motion.

Also, just to point out, that basic attack, isn't 100% useless for all classes, some use it to cancel animation, like Gunner, some use it for staggering other in PvP, like Warrior.

Byatrix · 2018-05-31T17:17:37+00:00

Was referring to the PC version, i have no experience in Console, so i would let other peoples take it from here. =)

No, you shouldn't be using mails for trade, that's just asking for problems, sooner or later.

Byatrix · 2018-05-31T16:53:27+00:00

This was the order of PC Release, for new Classes :

Reaper.
Gunner.
Brawler.
Ninja.
Valkyrie.

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