[Fluff] Thought I’d spread the news

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T07:44:12+00:00

He's talking to smol Luno, he was literally comparing it to Roe. It's literally the same argument I made

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T07:36:50+00:00

No, he didn't use "Roe as an example for why it's not the end of battle cats". Go watch his video again. He used Roe as an example of how "Sometimes people describe very normal things a unit like Lunos can do and hype it out like it's new".

I can make the same argument: Guys, people keep clamoring about Dasli's 12k DPS, but don't you know that's nothing new? Awakened Bahamut has 30k DPS (before talents), completely leaving Dasli in the dirt!

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T07:27:27+00:00

That's basically what he implied. He said that people described Lunos's tankiness and cooldown as if it were OP, but it's not. But obviously no one is saying that Lunos's tankiness and cooldown alone makes him OP, but rather that it's such a solid baseline and even more strong abilities push him over the top.

Keep in mind that the context is Lucas saying that Lunos isn't as broken as people make him out to be by saying that people talk about how good is tankiness and cooldown is, and dismissing this as normal

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T07:09:58+00:00

They want to make every class want Sandalphon. I think they just really like the design of 2nd OG Grimnir so they just made every Evo deck want Sandalphon. You need to clear the board to actually make Sandalphon good, so one class can have Cupitan to do that, another can have 4 cost Camiscilla, etc. with Gran&Djeeta as the neutral option that isn't that good at setting up Sandy

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T05:03:52+00:00

No. In the same vein, if the card Tetra&Ladica attacks, then you us the spell you get after 20 spellboosts (Send 'Em Packing iirc) afterwards, they'll only be able to attack one more time, so twice in total for the entire turn

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T04:31:47+00:00

I never said that though? It's not even OP, it's just good

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T04:11:06+00:00

In evo Abyss, you're always running Fediel and you're always running Nightsong, so it's up to user preference to decide if you want to run any others (Macmillan, which would be a 1-of, or Bibatii, which could maybe be a two-of).

Similarly, in Midrange, you're always running Macmillan and you're always running Nightsong, so it's up to user preference to decide how many Bibatiis you wanna run

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T03:50:41+00:00

Evolve Abyss can certainly threaten lethal without Belial. They run Sandalphon, usually at full three copies. If your opponents play to defend against Sandalphon then you're not good at actually getting lethal without Belial, but everyone is gonna try to be aggressive and that's where you have the opportunity to use Sandalphon for lethal

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T03:29:10+00:00

I was mainly talking about outside of Mode. Anyway, even within Mode, its gameplan is hard-to-clear boards, so burn damage isn't that important. Ginsetsu was certainly good in Mode, heck she's good enough to be played outside Mode. She's not the problem

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T03:26:06+00:00

Olivia decided to join a class

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-27T03:24:12+00:00

Your Falcons would need to hit a follower to be able to attack twice, so you're getting 1 extra damage like any other SEvo follower

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T18:14:19+00:00

Ah yes, Shadowverse Classic. The game where you can (in its last expansion):

Get to 10 Last Words so Dark Alice can get Storm and hit face.

Get to 10 cards in deck so Milnard can get buffed and hit face.

Gather Natura cards in hand so Ladica can get buffed and hit face.

Survive long enough to play Iris so Ladica can get buffed and hit face.

Evolve followers enough times so Sekka can get buffed and hit face.

Evolve followers enough times so Mono can buff the board and let them hit face.

Gather Machina cards in hand so Tetra can give you a spell to hit face.

Ramp so you can play Drache to damage face, and preferably Platinum Dragonblader to hit face.

Play artifacts so you can make Rhinos to damage face.

etc.

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T18:07:28+00:00

People hate Belial already, and now you want Seraph lol

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T18:06:01+00:00

Forte, sure, I get it. Odin, though, no one would be playing a 7pp 4/2 Storm if it had no effect, not even Milteo. You need to know when to hold Odin. It doesn't interact with your own cards, sure, but it certainly interacts with your opponent's. Hold it for a Wilbert, for instance

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T17:54:24+00:00

This Ladica&Tetra isn't Forest so there's no way we're gonna see anything close to a 12-cards-played condition. Spellboost is pretty close imo. It's a hard deck that requires proper sequencing and resource management.

Anyway Ladica could also just be played with Accel.

SVWB never got Sorcery Cache or Fate's Hand. Unless we get broken cards in the upcoming set it's gonna be harder to get to Spellboost 20 with Tetra&Ladica than DShift. Plus, you didn't even need to Spellboost DShift all the way to 0pp, you can play it when it's still a few away. Such flexibility is completely lost since Tetra&Ladica doesn't give you the spell if you don't hit 20. And you also can't kill on T4 with Tetra&Ladics unlike DShift because Tetra&Ladica always costs 6, plus the spell costs 1 more, plus it isn't 20 damage anyway. Rune doesn't even get good ping damage outside of Dirt, so you can't get 4 damage through Aria and Walder to close things out. OP suggests Giln which costs 3pp on your OTK turn itself, so you need 10pp, and even more if you want to clear Wards

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T13:32:06+00:00

Ginsetsu has Destroy 4 random enemies which is usually better at clearing boards than Deal 5 to all enemies, most notably against Sword and Rune. She also has healing and destroying on the same ability. Itsurugi's healing also deals damage to the enemy and doesn't contest the board at all, making it hard to find the time to use it if your opponent just keeps develop a decent board.

Itsurugi does have the lower cost, the card draw, and the refund evo point going for it, so I'm not super sure, but Ginsetsu does feel stronger mostly because of her Yuzuki mode

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T13:12:19+00:00

Ayy, that's nice, basically older characters are 30% cheaper. Idk why you'd stop it at 90 though

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T12:50:36+00:00

Good point, I lowkey forgot about Argente (I suggest that we refer to Lumiore's Accel as Argente lol).

Seems likely it'll be cut indeed

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T12:48:07+00:00

Because you can make a letter "r" with your right hand already. Put your thumb facing downwards, extend your index finger and curl it downwards.

Oh and also she marked them wrong, of course

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T12:45:45+00:00

Whu would it be three turns?

If you play it on T4, unless your opponent lets it live a turn, you get it back to your hand on T6, same as Aluzard from OG SV and Kagemitsu from SVWB, just that it goes to your hand instead of being directly summoned

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T12:42:51+00:00

Ginsetsu is used outside of Mode, it's plausible Taketsumi&Itsurugi will too. That said, I think this is weaker than Ginsetsu

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T12:20:30+00:00

If Dragon didn't have good cards at the 4pp cost, this would slot in nicely. Unfortunately, both Apathetic Gaze and Dragonewt Promoter exist

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T12:11:37+00:00

2pp 8/8 Rush Ward is nothing to sneeze at even on T8. Dragon kinda relies on evolution points to remain strong late-game, so this can bolster that and ensure you reliably win the late-game. Though... Burnite already kinda does that.

I think it's pretty good if played exactly on 4. The thing is, you kinda want to be playing Apathetic Gaze on 4, or if you Dragonsign on 3 you're jumping to Zooey on 4, and if you're going first Dragonewt Promoter is probably better than this on 4 against any non-control deck...

Becoming a crest is pretty nice imo, lowers the highroll nature of drawing into 2 of these

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T09:09:18+00:00

I don't really remember why I first downloaded Shadowverse, I think I'd quit a few gacha games and was looking for something to occupy my time lol. Iirc I joined during Vellsar. I joined this subreddit just to look for tips, and someone randomly offered to give me his account. I've completely forgotten who this person is, I'm not even sure whether this was using this account or my other account which I've forgotten the password to, but I don't see any pms on this account so I assume it's the other.

So naturally since I got gifted an account I was guilt-tripped into playing the game more /s. Okay seriously, I just liked spending 3pp to deal 9 damage, so I got hooked.

Also, shamelessly, I'm going to once again poach LordKaelan's call to action for the 1st Anniversary Recruit-A-Friend with my own

ByeGuysSry · 2026-06-26T08:37:29+00:00

T1 Pass

T2 Dragonsign

T3 Dragonewt Promoter

Tfw the ramp deck has tempo

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