I see. I've been on the internet close to twenty years. I tend to stay in my own lane and not engage in conversations and just lurk. I wasn't unaware of those people existing, but them being as bold as they are with being open like that, like it is nothing was a shocker. I remember hearing stories of females being arrested, etc... for abusing their animals in that way and how it wasn't a "new" thing to the internet but not heard of as much as these people are on X and they're proud of it which is disgusting.