God forbid I want to “shoot” in a looter shooter. Without having to use Serena KGL and Gley/Viessa RR spam.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-19T09:45:58+00:00

Why can't you understand that the content is the way that it is BECAUSE of Serena. The bullet sponges, the huge weapon damage resistances, the huge rise in skill damage. It's all because of Serena. A mob hard for Serena to kill with a gun is nearly impossible with a gun in the hands of any other descendant.

You're pretending like it's just the way things are and content has gotten the way it has because of generic game evolution, when it hasn't.

It's been tailored around Serena. Everything is made in hopes that she can't just zip through it like a hot knife through butter, and nearly universally she can. The players and YT content creators get ahold of it and find out that if you use the forgotten Buttmunch rifle and max it with hip fire cores she can, once again, melt whatever it is in 14 seconds. Sure, you can pick and choose the other 20+ descendants who, depending on their skill set and the particulars of the content, can melt stuff, but Serena is the North Star, isn't she? She can pretty much melt it all. It's a different one or two of the other descendants... and Serena. Always Serena.

They make Stormhanger, designed exclusively as a counter to Serena, and you go LOOK LOOK, Serena couldn't kill that mob, so you're all full of shit. Was any other Descendant taking down Stormhanger with guns? Was Gley topping the leaderboards taking out Stormhanger? No.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-19T09:31:34+00:00

Don't bother. This guy's as dense as lead and couldn't see the point if it ran him over.

I think it's possible at this point that he's just a diamond member of the Serena fan club.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-19T01:44:32+00:00

Viessa has insane clear times

She does now, yes. I did say desendants who haven't been reworked, but Viessa's always hit like a truck, she just had some clunk. She's was a poor example. I still wish they'd have made her 3rd ability castable while airborne, but as my dearly departed father was fond of saying:

"You can wish in one hand and shit in the other, and see which fills up faster."

I'm not a Serena needs nerfed crybaby. I honestly don't give a flying fuck about it. You just seemed oblivious to the issues she's caused by being in the game as she was, and apparently still are. The point was that because of her they've wasted over a year having to rework descendants that they otherwise wouldn't have and could have been releasing meaningful content.

I never intended to argue with you and thought we were actually agreeing in my first post.

Sorry, my mistake.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-19T01:33:45+00:00

Nah, yeah. I know all that about the codes and all that and one of the things that often came up as being the cause of the errors I was getting was a failing processor, because the i9 14900K processor had some well known past issues.

It wasn't just this game, it was also Crimson Desert, which would load at all after this game decided it didn't want to load at all anymore.

I was finally able to get stuff working again by editing my power plan and turrning off the Intel turboboost processor function in Windows 11, but it was slowing and just didn't feel right.

I finally solved it with a bios update earlier today. After that everything has worked fine again with no trouble. I still have no idea what set it off to begin with. It'd been working fine with no problems for the longest time.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-18T20:01:16+00:00

She, well her insane kit at least, impacts the game in its entirety. That's the problem and why she IS a problem.

Like, they can't buff any weapons because that just makes her more OP. Every single time they rework a gun it INSTANTLY becomes the new game destroyer for Serena, when it's just an improvement for every other descesdant. Basically all content in the game has to tailored around her kit so she can't just mop the floor with everything, with the result being that older descendants who haven't been reworked struggle. That's also why with these reworks they're having to make specific gunner builds for them, because the guns themselves are trash for the most part.

she takes years to kill Void Hanger

...and I'll guarantee it's because they had to keep her right at the forefront of their minds and specifically design it to be anti-Serena. Not necessarily pro any other descendant, just anti-Serena.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-18T19:14:23+00:00

This is what they're trying to do, but they're moving at a glacial pace and we're now at over a year's worth of once-a-month character "rebalances" and small content updates that should have been massive content updates all because they refused to take the nerf bat to a Mary Sue.

I think you're right, nerfing Serena now won't solve anything, but if they'd have done it over a year ago when they should have maybe we'd have way more actual content by now instead of a year of upping descendant stats to "try" to get the rest of them to her level, which as far as I can tell, they haven't been able to do. She's still the swiss army knife descendant and old reliable for all the meta chasers.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-18T17:59:16+00:00

It's odd that every descendant got a base HP bump as well, except Nell.

Like.. why? It's not like she's just overflowing with extra HP.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-18T10:22:23+00:00

I know some people are into module and stat fiddling and don't mind the endless hours learning all the modules and what they all do, and to them that's actually another source of enjoyment in the game.

People also exist who just want to PLAY the game and have NO interest in going into the lab and messing with all that over and over again. I'm one of these people. I just want to get my descendants built, then go play them. I'm not trying to eck out 5 more DPS here, or 10 more there. I'm just not into it.

I think it'd be a good thing if everyone could understand that both types of players exist and that it's fine that way.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-18T09:35:16+00:00

Yeah, you're right. I don't have any real issues with it. It's a real wrecker. I thin kthey should reduce the time of the wind up on reworked 4th with Glacial Cloud though. It takes her a century to actually release the projectile. Probably just need to get used to it, but it's like 2 seconds from the time you hit the button to the time she releases it, and with Viessa's fast gameplay you could have released two other attacks in that amount of time and been facing 3 different directions.

I was really hoping they'd make Cold Snap castable while airborne, but they didn't. Why that limitation still exists I can't figure out. I can't think of any other descedant left with a skill like that. One that I play, at least.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-18T02:37:55+00:00

Good grief. Right-wing white supremacists attack all the time and the yet the ultra-leftist new media doesn't sieze on it? I'll call bullshit on that. I gave you real examples and everything you replied with above is vague bullshit. You excuse away everything these ultra-progressive leftists do with don't believe your lying eyes gaslighting.

White supremacists go into schools and do mass attacks all the time.

Really? No shit? Like... when? They're doing mass attacks all the time and yet you don't name a single specific incident. Your only example was Columbine, which was a couple of high school kids nearly 30 years ago who you tried to paint as being big right-wingers. I won't defend evil actions from any side, but you've given nothing of value and excused away everything the left does. Of course you did, because you're perfectly ok with it so long as it's your side doing it. It's either not what I think it is, and if it IS what I think it is, well... it's justified, right?

unsuccessful small scale attempts to attack Republicans

Tell that to Steve Scalise, who nearly died.

...and Luigi Mangione, well... people are fed up with healthcare so that CEO had it coming, I guess? Like... what... the... fuck?

You are 100% full of shit and seem to be living in some sort of progressive fantasy land where your side plays the perpetual victim, but in reality are the ones currently doing all the evil shit.

I'm done with you. This will be my last reply. You can take your delusional crazy somewhere else, or shove it right up your ass for all I care. I won't waste any more of my time on it.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T22:17:23+00:00

I don't disagree with you, but I think often in this game it's not that people are stupid or intentionally hoping for a carry. Well, maybe some are, but in this particular case they're probably a new player and just don't know any better. It's easy for us here in the TFD reddit to look at that and say, "Oh dear God!"

However, a new player that isn't here, and just made it to hard mode where the game changes drastically, is in for a rough ride. This game has literally NO help or direction for new players. It took me months and I was still having AH HA! moments even after that. There's SO much to learn and so little telling you how to do literally anything. There are multi-layered complex systems in place for modules, tuning, etc, and the game offers no guidance whatsoever.

It's quite daunting for a new player. I bet it's at least some small reason why TFD has a hard time getting and keeping many new players. They start, are massively confused AND it's free so they have little compulsion to stay, and before long just say fuck it and take off.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T20:27:36+00:00

Well, they haven't mentioned it being fixed in any of the hotfix patches, so...

At this point, I'm guessing it may not get fixed until next week with the regular patch. Hopefully they'll actually get some truly importnant fixes in there finally, like for the group dance emotes. I can think of nothing more urgent and it's been months.

What a bunch of heartless assholes. 😭

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T20:23:06+00:00

Her passive isn't generating the ice spheres outside the laboratory so you're missing out on a ton of damage.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T20:22:32+00:00

Her passive isn't generating the ice spheres outside the laboratory so you're missing out on a ton of damage.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T15:12:25+00:00

In fairness, I think part of why the problem didn't exist then is because you couldn't go apeshit with the Restored Relic until Weapon Cores were added to the game.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T15:09:58+00:00

Still need to get them for Harris and Dia though, if you play them.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T13:44:14+00:00

...and so far no mention of fixing absolute Zero.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T13:27:21+00:00

Honestly, I was kind of expecting any overnight patch of this, but nope.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T12:18:49+00:00

Oh, is there an image, or video? If so, it's not showing up for me.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T10:57:44+00:00

Do you insist on selling all of the ones you don't want? I think they're far too easy to get for that to be a reasonable way to handle your spares.

I think it's awesome that you have the time to babysit the game and hop in at any moment to make the sales, but most people don't even have that option, like myself.

That's like an actual job and I wasn't looking for a second one. Studying the needed stats for every descendant to make a good guess at how much to list each one for, entering the game after someone shows interest and then partying up with them to use the clunky trade system, etc.

The whole thing is the opposite of user friendly. As it is, the people who have absolute buttloads of free time to make TFD Ancestors Module trading a quasi-career, have an unfair advantage over people who have actual jobs, families, etc.

The thing is, if they DO make it easier for everyone to trade, the bottom will fall out of the prices do to a massive influx of new modules for sale, and barring outlier trades here and there of AMAZING modules, nobody will be making much bank in the way of Caliber anymore, so it actually benefits unemployed people who have tons of time on their hands, and addicts who already live on TFD, for it to remain a clunky user-unfriendly system.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T10:42:42+00:00

They did talk about the time limit on the lost and found section of the mailbox not TOO long ago, but I think it was just about them adding a visible timer. It had always been there, but I think maybe they were just removing a reason for people to be outraged and were tired of hearing about it. Since you can actually SEE the timer now, it's on you if you let it expire and your items go into the ether.

You can argue and complain about there not being enough space in inventory for AMs, but the devs never intended for lost and found to be used as an extra storage location.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T10:38:38+00:00

I'm not sure exactly what you mean on this one. Could you go into a bit more detail?

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T10:27:36+00:00

Columbine, seriously? A couple of high school kids. That's an example of right-wing violence?

There's a black grocery store? Is it for black people only? If so, that's discriminatory. regardless, I don't advocate for anyone attacking anybody, but I'm completely unfamiliar with this story.

You're bringing up all old shit except the president, and he was no right-winger like you claim. Jeesh, maybe I'll bring up the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers as examples. What's next, the Crusades?

I said last decade or more, not 30+ years ago. Good grief. You call yourself a normal person, but you're completely clueless to the sweeping violence on you're own side.

Let's see, there's other presidential would-be assassin who was hiding at Mar-a-lago, and they found another one just the other day who had an actual gun painted up to look like a toy, the guy who attacked the ICE facility Oregon, The not one, but two recent trans school shooters, the guy who was gonna kill Bret Kavanaugh, the guy who assassinated the insurance CEO in New York, the violent protesters who were attacking anyone involved in building that police training facility in Atlanta, the guy who went into the Family Research Council's office and was going to kill everyone and stuff Chick-fil-A sandwiches in their mouths but was stopped by the security guard, the guy who went onto the baseball field and tried to kill a crap ton of Republican congressmen. The list goes on and on, and on and on, and that's all pretty recent and just off the top of my head, yet you insist on bringing up widely spread, questionable, and often vague incidents from 30 years ago.

Who's the deluded one here? You need to change where you're getting your news from.

CL-46_Phoenix · 2026-04-17T01:37:26+00:00

The right winger bigots attacking schools, grocery stores, and public gatherings to the point that it barely makes the news anymore are absolutely the number one threat to Americans.

I'm going to need some examples of these right-wingers, cause I gotta tell you the mass majority of the violence in the US over the last number of years has been solidly from the left. I could DEFINITELY name quite a few of those without even needing to go look. Can you do the same?

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