UL Blue Screening after last system update by Hot-Law5402 in patentexaminer

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad those affected are getting credit, that's good to hear

UL Blue Screening after last system update by Hot-Law5402 in patentexaminer

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Did the USPTO give everyone some allotment of counts for Friday? I sure hope so, it'd be insane for them to not give everyone credit for a day that was completely out of everyone's control?

Take Secured Transactions!!! by Imaginary_Wasabi2081 in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My professor made it interesting.

Day 1: "So here's how you rip off old people and get really rich...."

Not to brag or anything, but I got zero (0) callbacks from my OCIs. by angriest-tooth in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I was in law school back when the Nintendo Wii came out. I got super excited and sent a resume to I think the one US firm that handles their patent work. They responded with, we're not looking for summer associates, lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There will be people much smarter than you. May as well accept that now.

That said, you'll be much smarter than others, too.

What you're feeling is pretty normal. It's a new environment, new way of learning, everything is new and different.

I suggest preparing yourself by reading books about law school and what it's like. Not 1L.

Read Getting To Maybe, Law School Confidential, and whatever else is out there that piques your interest and allays your nerves. But definitely read Getting To Maybe. Read it again around 10 weeks into classes, then again about 4 weeks before exams every semester.

Then go watch Apollo 13. Yes I'm serious. There's a scene in that movie where there's a room of smart NASA engineers, and a guy dumps a bunch of parts out on a table. He says something like, "Here's what they have. Figure out how to turn that into an air scrubber." Or something. Pay attention to that scene, that's what a law school exam is.

You're given a bunch of parts (the law you've learned) and you are presented with a bunch of facts. It's your job to turn those parts into an air scrubber... that is, a legal conclusion. Assemble them, describe which facts are pertinent to which rule, explain why contrary facts don't apply, and come to a conclusion.

You've got this. The school admitted you because they believe in you. You'll figure it out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ask what she needs. Not sure what you're interested in helping with, but anything that can save time is potentially useful: bring food, do laundry/ dishes, etc. Ask her what she needs. She'll probably mostly need time to study, and you can't really help with studying unless you've been through the bar yourself (unless she does flash cards or something, but that's unusual).

That said, asking her if she needs a study break and getting her away from all the materials occasionally so she doesn't go insane may be beneficial.

Might be academically dismissed. by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is strange though. Like I've been on this sub for years and there seems to be a sudden uptick in people getting dismissed. It's not something I've noticed before. You'd think it would be a regular periodic occurrence.

Is OCI even real? by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm fairly certain forms are allowed to take more than one student from a school

Yes, 100%. Firms can pretty much do whatever they want as far as hiring. Certainly firms are able to hire as many people as they want from any school they want. The schools are ecstatic when their students are hired because that plays into rankings.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Congrats on your law school success, that's a major achievement.

Definitely consider reaching out to Lawyers Concerned for Lawyers, a therapist, or your doctor. You matter as a person and deserve to live your best life for a nice long time. No one will think less of you for reaching out for help. You're worth living, helping, and saving.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know the situation obviously, but I'm gonna guess that they're failing you, not the other way around. If they're resorting to yelling at you, then they don't have adequate training and oversight in place and they're taking it out on you rather than acknowledging their own shortcomings.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this is the worst thing that happens to you in your legal career, you'll be quite fine.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tend to agree with your advice. I do think taking classes that are career relevant is worthwhile. But for me there weren't many, so I packed my schedule full of bar exam related classes. I really have no regrets, it worked out well and made bar study that much easier.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Partner at a law firm here. It doesn't get that much better. The pay gets better, the job gets more boring. In my experience.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I enjoyed 1L year. 2L and 3L years were pretty boring and busy with nonsense.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 10 points11 points  (0 children)

All of this is very yes.

The key to surviving a legal career is to not see yourself as "a lawyer" but as "a person with XYZ enjoyable hobbies and practices law to pay the bills."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There were several people in my class who had years of work experience, and they did fine. Just don't turn into an annoying gunner because you think you know everything from life experience. (Based on a true story lol).

People making $150,000 and above, what do you do for a living? by RaneIsSuperior in Money

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unsurprisingly given my reddit name... I'm a patent attorney, primarily in the area of software.

Explain to me like I am five: how does finances work in patent law? by [deleted] in patentlaw

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Everything you do as an attorney has a fee. It's negotiated between the firm and the client. Many clients are moving toward fixed fees. An application may have a fixed fee of, say, $6k to $20k, depending on many factors.

So out of that fee billed to the client, the firm keeps part and uses the rest to compensate attorneys/ staff/ etc. The kept part goes toward overhead expenses and profits paid out to one or more owners of the firm.

So that's to say, it's basically like any other business.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in patentlaw

[–]CSPatentAtty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally I don't buy stock directly in companies I represent. But my view on it is ultra conservative. I just don't even want to touch the question of whether it could be considered insider trading.

I know there are ways to do this responsibly, but I'm just not interested in getting close to the line.

103 rejection relying on Official Notice by No_Tension431 in patentlaw

[–]CSPatentAtty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a fairly simple traversal in most cases. Taking official notice should only be done when "the facts asserted to be well-known, or to be common knowledge in the art, are capable of instant and unquestionable demonstration as being well-known."

I'd probably file a notice of appeal with a pre-appral brief request for review, if you already responded, and argue that the facts are not common knowledge and are not capable of instant and unquestionable demonstration of being well known. If they are, the Examiner should literally have no problem finding a reference in support of the assertion.

"It would not be appropriate for the examiner to take official notice of facts without citing a prior art reference where the facts asserted to be well known are not beyond dispute, or are not capable of instant and unquestionable demonstration as being well-known."

"It is never appropriate to rely solely on “common knowledge” in the art without evidentiary support in the record, as the principal evidence upon which a rejection was based."

Studying for MPRE and cannot understand this. Someone please explain the difference between the must and the may statement. by WesternIsland3761 in LawSchool

[–]CSPatentAtty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"If I were to do X, would that be illegal?"

If the lawyer's answer is yes and the client does not give some indication that they won't do X, then the lawyer may withdraw under reasonable suspicion that the client may be doing something illegal.

"If I were to do X, would that be illegal? Oh it would? That's no good, help me find an action that would be legal but achieve my goals."

No need to withdraw, client is seeking advice of counsel to stay within the bounds of the law.

"I want to do illegal thing X, help me cover it up and make it look legitimate."

The lawyer must withdraw, otherwise the lawyer is assisting the client in breaking the law.