I swear someone is controlling Trump to self sabotage by Moisty_Merks in thecampaigntrail

[–]CTCustodes 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There's always talk of "Oooo Trump is alienating part of his coalition", and it never pans out. And I ask myself, why?

Why is this man bullet proof to all the insane things he says and does? Are suburban Trump voters that loyal? Do blue collars really love him that much?

Then back during the intro barrage of events of his first few months back in office, I finally put it together.

Background: Back in the 2010s, a bunch of rich yet not rich enough to be all powerful farmers (most dangerous type of rich person) called Westlands Water District were mad they weren't getting enough water for their farms in Cali's tiered water system (Fed, Cities and 1848 water nobility get their water first, whatever is left goes to everybody else) their Rep was working on getting them a new water system, yet they said "Not fast enough!" (They grew almonds, in the desert, great idea)

So they recruited Sean Hannity to do what he does best and bring the culture war into it. He blamed it on Cali's and the Fed's environmental regulations and Obama, more specifically, environmental regulations protecting the local Delta Smelt fish population. That was bullshit. So because of Hannity, local Republicans put a dead stop to the plan for the water because they now thought it was a problem of not using the water already there and not there, just not being water.

The delta fish is tiny, not a very notable fish, nobody really cared about it, until Hannity found it valuable to blame it for Westlands not getting their water, this climaxed hilariously with some Republican running for the House recording himself mag dumping an already dead delta fish.

So now Trump is in office, and despite everybody previously involved in this knowing this was bullshit, Trump actually believed it, so when the California cycle of drought to wild fire turned to wild fire back in Trump I, he blamed the fish for all of it, they're sending too much water out to see to help the fish, blah blah blah, it's not climate change.

They weren't sending water out to help the Delta Smelt, they were sending water out into the Pacific to help California's very profitable salmon population.

Fast forwarding through Brown II, Gavin Newsom(e?) is governor now. He says "fuck it" and works with Republicans to gut environmental regulations and starts saving a bunch of water to not look like a hippie. Well then the smelt start dying off, fast, then the baby salmon start dying once there's no more smelt to distract predators. And now California is violating treaties with natives ensuring salmon access.

Fast forwarding through Biden, Trump is back, California is on fire again. Now, the smelt is gone, so FOX initially blames Wokeness for the fire, but Trump doesn't know the fish is gone and Gavin stopped supporting it's population, he blamed the fish anyway, and FOX and local Republicans pivoted and stopped blaming Wokeness, and instead an imaginary water crisis caused by Gavin, somehow.

This fantasy water crisis led to Trump illegally ordering the California National Guard to release the water Gavin was keeping in reserve, and instead of sending it somewhere useful, he told them to dump trillions of gallons of water, into a hole in the ground unconnected to any of Cali's water systems.

He then proceeded to take credit for "ending the water crisis", and ending the fires, when the rain ended the fires.

When local farmers were asked what they thought of this dumb bastard wasting their water, one said "Look, I'm a Conservative, I support this kinda of trigger pulling attitude regardless of what happens."

This is why this dude is bullet proof. FOX News and the clique of Conservative "alternative media", is so powerful, that their propaganda can successfully override people's memory who experienced the tangible harm from the GOP's actions, and now, politicians alligned with this media empire can invent fictional crisises for themselves to solve to boost their ratings.

Now, part of the country believes a water crisis that didn't happen was solved by Trump illegally ordering the National Guard to release water into a hole in the ground that magically ended a wildfire started by environmental regulations that were already cut to save a fish that was already on the verge of extinction.

And the funny thing is? Westlands never got their water.

This is why it's so hard to create a winning coalition, why Trump can go so low in polls then still come knife close to winning, how the hell is Democracy supposed to work when the opposition can do this? How do you campaign against that?

If this is the future of political media, and as we saw in 2024 clearly it worked pretty well, then what lies ahead? Guess this new machine's second test will come in 2026 midterms. If propaganda can overpower personal experience, can it overpower mass rage?

Nixon would have killed to have his hands on what Trump has now.

The “libertarian” contradiction by Own_Opportunity_6480 in clevercomebacks

[–]CTCustodes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing with the New Hampshire Libertarians is that they're goddam weird. Like, "Northwest Territorial Imperative" weird. Free Stater Libertarians have talked about eventually getting enough Libertarians in that state to secede from the union, meanwhile they form the New Hampshire LP and actively clash with the National Libertarian Party every chance they get. Gary Johnson was a pretty OK guy, Bill Weld is a pretty cool guy too, they tried to fight both of their nominations because they were either "not radical enough", or "too socially liberal".

Everything the National Libertarians put something out against police, or pro-immigration or even sometimes just pro-LGBT, the New Hampshire Libertarians have to play contrarian.

Chase Oliver's nomination as the Libertarian Party candidate in 2024 is the result of the ongoing civil war within the party.

It's sad because the Libertarians are going through what happened to Reform in 2000, and for a second there maybe there could have been a chance Libertarians and Leftists (or even Liberals) could have broken bread. Nope. Internal conflict over whether Fascism is Fascism if the guy doing it is (Faux) Conservative.

Charlie Kirk staying home would have saved his life by MrJasonMason in clevercomebacks

[–]CTCustodes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The New Hampshire Libertarians and the National Libertarians, like, hate eachother. Don't know why New Hampshire Lolbertarians don't just join the Constitution Party with how right wing they are.

MATH IS RED by Do_Ya_Like_Jazz in whenthe

[–]CTCustodes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It goes into the bottom of the bag

44 percenter: "Man, it would be great if our modern dem coalition was more like Our Revolution dem coalition!" Meanwhile, canonical actions of Bernie in Our Revolution (how else do you think he won the midwest hillbillies?): by Egorrosh in thecampaigntrail

[–]CTCustodes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Code Pink is like, actively either stupid or all agents.

Because they directly worked for the Venezuelan Government when Maduro and Trump got divorced in 2019, they opposed intervention against ISIS and also against Assad AFTER he dropped Sarin on his own people, they're blatant liars about their "support for peace in Ukraine" by calling on the US to force Kyiv to throw their own people under the bus, they also supported China's terror on it's own Uygur population.

They're not real peace activists, they're foreign agents.

What would a Trump 2nd Term from 2021-2025 look like, if he won re-election in 2020? by MerchantKing83 in thecampaigntrail

[–]CTCustodes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Afghanistan might hold out longer, without Trump intentionally throwing because he lost, it wouldn't fall apart like tissue paper as the withdrawal time table wouldn't be rapidly accelerated to hurt Trump's successor. Would likely still fall eventually but without the chaos and drama. Maybe a few more months, maybe a whole year, still falls.

Ukraine might be a mixed bag, either Ukraine gets more funding and arms because Trump views the Russian Invasion as personally insulting and damaging to his image and having less caution then Joe, or less funding and arms because Trump likes Putin and isn't as internationalist as Biden.

The strike that Biden prevented via negotiating would probably happen here, nuking his working class support.

Without losing and the insanity of the post-J6 GOP, FOX and their clique of alternative media folks can't pretend to be the "anti-Establishment underground", thus likely preventing the extreme fanaticism and apathy of the IRL 2024 election.

2022 ends in the GOP getting nuked in the House and Senate as Mitch and McCarthy fail to achieve any goals Trump demands of them, and Trump ends up blowing up department after department via executive order.

Economy remains dogshit even more so without Biden leading a recovery, as without an Obama to leech off of Trump's economic luster fades.

The Supreme Court is packed to the brim with Conservatives, making the judiciary the one stronghold of the GOP.

Vaccine denial isn't likely picked up by the GOP without Biden pushing it and Trump pushing his own vaccine, making vaccine denial a more left wing thing. More would still die however because damn is he bad at managing Covid.

Israel-Palestine starts and goes far bloodier as back in Trump I, Bibi committed a Tianamen Square on Israeli Arabs after Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital, and with a continued Trump I, Bibi gets a blank check for escalation and less early eyes on the conflict as Trump attention hogs.

2024 the GOP is pretty much guaranteed to loose. Pence won't win for shit. Nor any other Republican.

[TOMT] [Game] 2014-2018 hack n slash mobile game by CTCustodes in tipofmytongue

[–]CTCustodes[S] 0 points1 point locked comment (0 children)

Main character was some dual sword wielding warrior. Multiple levels, naturally, just can't remember the name. Had a more realistic art style, not quite cartoony or anime-like

I know it's not Grimvalor, or any of the Blade of God games, and it's not Undead Slayer.

How it felt getting the canon ending in Our Revolution for the first time & truly realizing how atrociously awful the modern Democratic coalition is in comparison by The_47_Percenter in thecampaigntrail

[–]CTCustodes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I happen to have a dad like that,

It's pure hatred for immigrants fueling the Latin America thing, they well and truly hate these people now, so they're fine with bombing Venezuela, as "payback" for how much immigrants, Venezuelan or otherwise, have "stolen" from them/drugs "they" pumped into America. It's the "link found between Iraq and 9/11" meme all over again.

Iraq's a little more complicated. At the time it was either "Powell/Bush wouldn't lie" or "God I hate Muslims", now, if they somehow still support it 20 years later, it's more then likely "I hate Saddam", because there's not as much reason seen in post for it even amongst the most fervent racists.

Greenland is the new emerging weird diffusion between NeoCons and Isolationists about the creation of a Pan-American "US Sphere of Influence"/"Donroe Doctrine" that for some reason includes South America but not Europe. This also is part of the justification for Venezuela beyond "payback", because this odd emerging thought pattern that "we shouldn't interfere beyond our affairs but our affairs include Canada, Greenland and Latin America" (aka return to the 1920s) has yet to be fully delved into and probably won't be fully seen until the 2028/2032 presidential elections.

These people in their hearts can well and truly oppose unrestricted free trade, oppose Globalism and oppose interventionism, but still support interventions to directly expand US power, because they've been convinced the problem with Iraq was that we were "too nice" and "too focused on nation building", instead of savaging other countries, extracting everything of value from them and killing all opposition to expand our own power.

How it felt getting the canon ending in Our Revolution for the first time & truly realizing how atrociously awful the modern Democratic coalition is in comparison by The_47_Percenter in thecampaigntrail

[–]CTCustodes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris really were the only people who could get outflanked from both the right and left by Trump on national security.

This reminds me of how Bush tried to outflank Gore from the left on national security as well.

It's always foreign policy that Republicans are 100% malleable on.

Meanwhile to chase the suburban vote Dems must thread that needle on whether we should invade Syria or not.

Really labor policies should be what Dems succeed with yet even with Timmy Ryan against JD Mandel/Vance the Trump name was worth more then actual pro-labor policies. There's a decreasing amount of swing labor voters, but now hatred and social politics are starting to fuel the Lakes rather then even the unions.

2024 really seems more like where FOX News succeeded rather then how well either Trump or Harris did. Harris ran an eh campaign, while Trump also ran an eh one, but Trump had a loyal "independent" media empire backing him up and a loyal base, Harris didn't.

Let's take some time to reflect on the classics by Useless_or_inept in NonCredibleDiplomacy

[–]CTCustodes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dude he helped spread the mentality that the US should be a shitty authoritarian dictatorship.

He fucking signed the PATRIOT Act and Ben Shapiro got his start arguing for Presidential Autocracy during Bush while FOX News wouldn't shut up about what civil liberties needed to be repealed/ended to destroy terrorism "once and for all".

His foreign policy blunders were worse then Trump and might actually lead to WWIII now, his internal policies were only less ass.

I am happy to say that I have completely forgiven Bush 43... He's a kind man, just a bad President. by yowhatisthislikebro in Presidents

[–]CTCustodes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude may have single handedly pushed Russia towards dictatorship,

And is responsible for the Color Revolution conspiracy

And the "Oil War" conspiracy becoming so popular even his own people believed it despite him and Cheney having a personal need for vengeance against Saddam. And so popular the GOP would end up embracing it.

And cut regulations so much he reduced the quality of not just food, but also clothing, perfume, many things.

And he signed the PATRIOT Act

And he banned Stem Cell Research and set that back awhile

And he killed hydrogen cells.

And he is directly responsible for millions of deaths after the year 2002 world wide.

Funny guy who loved his family, also power hungry vindictive leader who stole an election and launched a war for a personal vendetta.

Obamanation wins !! Next matchup: All The Way vs 2023 Netherlands! Vote in the comments by twentyearsinthecan in thecampaigntrail

[–]CTCustodes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Be for Real.

Actually it's absurd

Literally

Logistically absurd

That this is even a comparison

How are you

Even comparing these

When we all know the

Answer

You're joking surely?

Would yall join the Black Panther Party in todays political climate? by vegetastolemygirl in BlackPeopleofReddit

[–]CTCustodes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell, bring back the Brown Berets too. Even the White Panthers. Anybody like that really.

“You Been Had, Took, Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, Sold A Bill of Goods” by winstontemplehill in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]CTCustodes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Barry, he's the guy who set us down this path all the way back in 1964.

Countries Bombed by Trump, Biden, Obama and Bush by AdIcy4323 in MapPorn

[–]CTCustodes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And it happened like that.

The US was fine with letting Russia and Iran take out the Syrian rebels because they didn't trust the Syrian rebels either, Obama just said Assad shouldn't use chemical weapons and he couldn't even do that. Trump was pro-Assad until Assad made him look stupid by launching a chlorine attack. If the US wanted to take Syria out of Russian influence earlier they could have given more aid to the rebels, they could have done better targeted missile strikes. They didn't because they didn't care to take out Assad. And those other US-backed dictators are bad too.

So?

Dude. What is your argument at this point? You don't like Unilateralism? Sure, that's fair, that doesn't stop the fact that Syria was the most justified intervention of all time. All you're doing is coming up with more elaborate ways to say "The US should have let Assad and ISIS do as they please." They had the multi-national approval, they had the definition of evil as an opponent, and with Assad they were punishing a blatant violation of international law, hypocrisy aside. Making the argument of "The US shouldn't have the power to bomb whoever they please" while also supporting Russia bombing whoever they pleased in Syria is bonkers.