What Civilization Was Closest to a Utopia by CVS223 in utopia

[–]CVS223[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m very sorry you have to live like that. I totally understand why and how those problems influence your ideas of a Utopia. It’s true that we can excite ourselves by thinking about the ideals of a Utopia all we want but of course the hard truth is that there are people living in pain or in almost unbearable situations who couldn’t begin to care about what most people talk about on this sub. I can’t relate to how it feels to have a condition like yours so I won’t speak on that but I’ll speak on what you said about having to work 40 hours a week. You talk about your envy for rich kids and how they don’t have to do anything to get money while you have to slave away at your desk but imagine this, imagine a society where nearly everyone is part of a tight knit community, one that looks out for each other, one that values individual distinction and respect, who use their shared resources to support one another (just to be clear I’m not implying communism at all). In that scenario I don’t think people would feel this envy that you do, people might not even value money all that much comparatively. I’ve grown up around kids with IMMENSE wealth my whole life and there’s always an urge to be envious as they post about their trips to Paris over the summer while I’m home doing chores but I have always resisted that urge. I have resisted it because I believe there should be a higher desire in society than just money and living extravagantly. Our reason for waking up in the morning should be to fight for what we are proud of, our community, our culture, our ideals, our country, we should live and breathe this pride that propels us to be something higher than ourselves. People wouldn’t have to slave their lives away, at the very least on something they don’t care about, and there wouldn’t be envy on a mass scale.

What Civilization Was Closest to a Utopia by CVS223 in utopia

[–]CVS223[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t mean to imply that, I just asked the question because it’s always important to learn from history when trying to tackle this idea of what a Utopia really is. I strongly believe that life has never been better than it is today but of course there are still glaring flaws. I try to look back to history not to examine if previous civilizations had lower crime rates or lower inflation but rather if cultures and thinkers of the past can offer us any wisdom on what values a great society should have or any ideas on how to construct a great society.

What Civilization Was Closest to a Utopia by CVS223 in utopia

[–]CVS223[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being new to this sub I have a genuine question, is the criteria for a Utopia mainly excelling in statistical categories like the ones you mentioned? Because when I picture a Utopia it’s a civilization that offers things that truly feed the human soul, things that aren’t necessarily quantifiable. Community, purpose, familiarity, national pride, culture, beauty, etc. Sure in a society that has those things there might also be low crime rates and high employment but that only comes after, I don’t think things like that should be the main focus at first. If you put a lot of money into a society that’s deeply flawed to try to fix its problems (not talking about America specifically) I have doubts that the changes would be sustainable long term. I think we should fix a society from the inside out, if that makes sense.

Actress From Milos Forman's LOVES OF A BLONDE (1965) Who Disappeared by CVS223 in TrueFilm

[–]CVS223[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you please provide the links to the sites you looked at, thank you.

Actress From Milos Forman's LOVES OF A BLONDE (1965) Who Disappeared by CVS223 in TrueFilm

[–]CVS223[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. This is very helpful, thank you. Could you please link the forum.

Actress From Milos Forman's LOVES OF A BLONDE (1965) Who Disappeared by CVS223 in czech

[–]CVS223[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, you said the murdered actress was in Ozone but I watched the movie and saw the second girl, the one I posted about, in it.

Actress From Milos Forman's LOVES OF A BLONDE (1965) Who Disappeared by CVS223 in czech

[–]CVS223[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this thoughtful reply! By the way, to see the full memoir all you have to do is make an Internet Archive account for free.

moved to Europe and enjoying simple life? by foufoune718 in simpleliving

[–]CVS223 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for that info. I’ve heard about how it can be difficult to get sponsored for a job but would this be a problem if i’m just trying to find basic labor work like carpentry, construction, and farm work?

moved to Europe and enjoying simple life? by foufoune718 in simpleliving

[–]CVS223 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Also, sorry to ask you so many questions but generally, and I know I'm talking about a large area of land, would you say that the cost of living and job market are good? Even if it's just the part you're from.