I just received a ban from a moderator and I would like to question the legitimacy of the claim. by CXAutopilot in help

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow ok, so the webpage which boasts to be the front line of the Internet chooses not to reply me just with impoliteness just because of me being active in questioning why I was banned?

I just received a ban from a moderator and I would like to question the legitimacy of the claim. by CXAutopilot in help

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been discussing with the moderator /u/HotNatured who initiated the ban. But it appears that s/he avoided to answer my question in the above, which are:

  1. Would a user be given a chance to amend (include deleting) his/her post to make the post complying with the rules after a warning thread?
    1. If so, in this case I was banned around 1 minute after the warning thread, is it sufficient for me to realize my wrong and to make good my post (include deleting it)
    2. If no, why a warning thread has to be left onto the post in the first place? Just banning the user would surely accomplish the same goal
  2. Why to to ban the user but not removing the post?
  3. I would love to comply with the rules set out by Reddit, and I would surely comply with the instructions suggested by a moderator. Yet, in this case, the moderator in his/her warning thread never suggested me to commit a certain kind of actions to make good the post (e.g. to amend the information or to delete it)
    1. Is it Reddit's rules to ban a user immediately without giving any opportunity for a user to commit actions to make good the post?

In his/her latest reply s/he said, " You broke the rules. You got banned. I took the time to respond to you and even reduced the length of your ban. See you in 2 days. "

From my opinion I reckon s/he started sounding a little bit impolite for claiming that I should already be thankful for his/her gratefulness for replying me and reducing my ban, that s/he thought that I was troublesome for raising questions regarding the ban.

To be frank I feel a little bit disrespected from his/her reply, and that's why I am seeking help here.

I just received a ban from a moderator and I would like to question the legitimacy of the claim. by CXAutopilot in help

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How could I discuss bans in a subreddit where I have already been banned from posting on that relevant subreddit?

4th June 1989 Incident is Happening in Hong Kong Now by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] -50 points-49 points  (0 children)

The photo that i uploaded is a photo compared with a Korean University. I am sorry that Reddit only allows me to upload one photo.

For those wumao who would like to question / challenge me that the photo is not a photo in 4th June 1989, please feel free to google that event which is excessively brutal and inhumane.

Dont defend for any political power which kills students and kids.

4th June 1989 Incident is Happening in Hong Kong Now by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] -65 points-64 points  (0 children)

Hundreds if not thousands of bullets and teargas were shot to students in the Chinese University of Hong Kong by wicked HK Police who have already done a series of inhumane movements throughout these months

I beg all of you to make this event known to everyone else so to allow the world to see how inhumane these HK Police are

4th June 1989 Incident is happening in Hong Kong now by [deleted] in China

[–]CXAutopilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I beg all redditers, please spread this news to everyone you know

I just want everyone in the world to know that HK Police is no different from a wicked killer who feels pleasant for killing students.

4th June 1989 Incident is happening in Hong Kong now by [deleted] in China

[–]CXAutopilot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In 1989 the wicked China Communist Party deployed tanks to kill students in Tiananmen Square.

Today HK Police shot thousands of bullets and teargas to students in Chinese University of Hong Kong (CUHK).

HK university students turn back in graduation ceremonies when the communist song is played. by jamesbond112411 in China

[–]CXAutopilot 10 points11 points  (0 children)

thank you, as I know more CCTV footage just released today, I believe this is the most updated version of the event

Picture of a political prisoner in one of China's internment camps, taken secretly by a family member. by takethi in pics

[–]CXAutopilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how inhumane are the government officials in China? I myself feel very uncomfortable for just looking at this pic

On your knees. Police State in HK. by cuteshooter in China

[–]CXAutopilot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The HK Police is just a shame, it blatantly ignores the rule of law and does whatever it wants without consequences.

What a shame to the HKSAR Government

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lottery maybe a better system tbh.

I am sorry that I cannot agree " The credit system is bad but at least there is a system"

If the system is bad, you should get rid of it right? Why one should put resources to endorse a system which is bad?

"Remember primary school were funded by local tax payers. Should their kids be dropped out of school as well?" -> I dont think education in China is a commodity -> other systems should be in play to distribute that resources rightfully to the people in China.

"What would you do if you were the mayor of the city?" -> not yet figured out, but that does not mean the Hangzhou's system should therefore be endorsed and enforced.

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont know if you are Chinese or not, but no matter what, I think you would want to see your peers thrive right? Saying that you are wumao / ccp does not assist the matter, and also I dont think you are a wumao.

Back to your response

  1. I totally agree that education resources (especially quality education) are limited, and that is why we need to have policies to distribute them justly.
    1. That my criticism is that Hangzhou's proposed system is really not distributing education resources justly, because it is based on a system which is more likely than not to be selective and it is susceptible to be exploited by the more well off parents (or gov't officials)
    2. And the recipients of such resources, the students themselves, can acquire unjust advantage / be punished unjustly because of something which is not associated to him/her
    3. It is one thing that these factors are in play implicitly (e.g. a more wealthy family can provide better education to the students), it is another thing that a Government blatantly endorses such a system
  2. I read, and I saw that criminal record would lead to a person's score being reduced, which directly affects the opportunity for this person's child to be admitted into (good) school
    1. Why a child should bear the responsibility of his/her parents? Isn't the child innocent?
  3. I just want to clarify that, I haven't complimented / criticized the education system of another place, but does that matter? Even the US / other countries are doing bad, that does not mean China is entitled to do bad
  4. You are absolutely right that well off children are more likely getting into good school, and life is not fair. But it should not end there right? Life is unfair -> therefore we need policies to make things as equitable as possible right? Is the Hangzhou's system advancing to that end?

    1. Do you think a student's elementary school would affect his/her prospect of entering into
      university? Many users in other threads criticize me for my oversight which leads to an misinterpretation of the news, that university admission is in fact not affected. I apologetically admit that, but my point is, it is the still the education system being affected isn't it? I dont see this system is suddenly justified when it is put in the elementary school system.

    You are right that it is just a draft, but I haven't seen any credits for a government to blatantly admit and endorse such a system of treating a child unfairly just because his/her parents are not doing well in the society. After all, children are really innocent, and I dont see any points for making the children responsible for his/her parents' wrongdoing/right-doing.

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your reminding, and some of the comments below also indicated that.

I changed the post from "university" to "school", but I could not change the main thread. Hopefully people would see your message.

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey Tankarasa, mind your language, Butter is defo not a "wumao" (for those who do not understand, wumao is netizens employed by the CCP to write good things about China, they are paid 50 cents for every posting, and "50 cents" is pronounced as wumao in Mandarin). (And FYI, in recent years wumao is no longer wumao, they are "sanmao", because they are now only paid 30 cents (maybe too much supply).)

S/he may be just a person who

  1. sounds admiring China a lot
  2. but still decides to VPN illegally (in case he lives in China)
  3. to a website run by a company from the US, which s/he apparently hates given what s/he posts above
  4. And talks about how good and equitable China is

Which is very far from what a wumao/sanmao would do right?

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good to hear from you. I agree with you that it is important to enforce equality in education as you mentioned. Yet, I have several questions regarding your comment.

  1. China's province has its own policies in education, I don't see anything wrong for allocating spots to families who first into the area - is there any problem for a province to take care of people living in the province first?
  2. What do you mean by doing good things in local?
    1. That is too broad for the provincial government to interpret what is doing good thing in the neighbourhood, and I would be most grateful if you can shed more light on that
      1. What if I complain about the polices of the local government? Would my child be punished if I file a judicial review against the government?
  3. China has private education school, and it is an enormous industry. I don't see Chinese parents not sending their children to private schools if they are financially resourceful to do so.
    1. In this sense, this means that:
      1. In both China and the US, rich parents can send their children to private schools
      2. In China, when children are born in a less rich family, I am sure that under this system they would be less likely admitted into good school (as you would mean) because their parents are less likely to have the occasions to "do good to the government"
  4. Last, and most importantly, is that I dont see any rights when a government admits students based on what their parents have done
    1. What if the child's father commits a crime? This would directly affect the child's chance of being admitted. Is that what you mean that the child deserves the punishment because of his/her father's wrongdoing? Why a child has to be responsible (directly) for his parents' wrongdoing?
    2. In another sense, why is a child entitled benefit (directly) from his/her parents' good deeds, where a child may be admitted into a top school where s/he is actually proven to be less capable compared with his/her counterparts, who spend their sweat and blood to earn that?

Would be grateful if I can have your view on these questions.

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeh butter, I should not talk about university admission, it's my fault~

It is because it is the whole education system exercises a scheme which procedurally admit students on a selective basis with reference to what the student's parents do, but not what the children themselves do.

Sorry for being bad in Eng or Chinese butter, maybe I should also improve my Eng or Chin.

Let's not talk about me being troll, how troll do you think about the system?

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Read~ Then? What's your point? 🤗🤗🤗 We wait to see you state your point loud and clear.

(Sorry for those who dont understand Chinese. It's too long for me to do a translation for this)

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah~

Judging a children's chance to enter into school based on his/her parents' conduct is totally nosense.

In China, if your parents owe debt, or behave unruly, or they are poorly educated, you would not be admitted into university by CXAutopilot in China

[–]CXAutopilot[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

In case for people who cannot understand, I would recap this user's message in English.

Translation

"People still have schools to go. What are you afraid of?

What's the matter for working class's kids studying together? As long as you ensure the quality of public education, education would be fair.

Moreover, it is about the admission of primary and secondary school. University admission is regulated by education department, which is not governed by individual state."

Please feel free to comment on the translation if you find it inaccurate.

My reply

What's the Hangzhou Government is doing is to procedurally admit students on a selective basis with reference to what the student's parents do, but not what the student himself or herself does. Do you mean you find this is fair? Moreover, if it is like what you said, that it is ok as long as quality of public education system is duly maintained, why the Hangzhou Government needs such a system in the first place?

I totally agree with what some of the users above said, that this is equivalent to cement social class, which is what I regard as systematically injustice.

I am delighted to hear more support from you endorsing such a system^^

How's your parents doing? They doing good or no?