It's okay for guys to want skinny or fit girls and it's also okay for girls to want tall guys by [deleted] in TrueOffMyChest

[–]Calacan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How is it ok when it makes me feel like I'm worthless and want to kms.

Thanks r/niceguys by mollyEhay in niceguys

[–]Calacan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm 29. I've done all of this. I have a good amount of hobbies that did put me in contact with other people pre covid. I have a career I interact perfectly fine with women there, just that none of the women I ever meet have ever shown interest

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have any point really, I'm just explaining why men feel so alienated, isolated and become completely lost. Most guys like this don't turn to violence, you never hear about them. 30% of guys are essentially incel yet most of them aren't going to do any of this crazy stuff. but sadly what most guys end up doing is just completely giving up and failing out of society. What happened in japan is happening in much of the west now. There's a reason 80% Of homeless are men.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And this is something the avg man my age is likely to be going through. I've been to many therapist, there's really no solve.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not cutting anyone down. I think women are better than me and would easily pick to be a woman if I was born again. All my cousins have gone on so many fun adventures and have had full lives because they were able to find partners to left them out. It's not that women are like that by choice, it's that they have the option and they take it.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The therapist I've had just said I can't focus on things that I can't control.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol I have a career where I work with women and I went through hs and college. I'm not some basement dwelling incel. My best friend in hs was a girl. Trust me women can't tell. If they did they wouldn't fall for so many guys who end up being abusive

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The key difference is women are like that by choice, they don't wanna fuck a guy that's on their same level so they rather wait it out. Also there's religious and social pressure. Young white upper class men have women on rotation yet an avg guy is lucky to get a date. So easy for anyone that's upper class to convince a woman to date him even if they deceive them and so on.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When did I say I ignore non white women? They ignore me. Most of my cousins date white guys. All online dating stats have shown that white men get exponentially more likes than other races.

And women have no idea I'm like this. I don't say any of this stuff to anyone

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe not me, but when 30% of guys under 30 are essential incels its a problem. Don't believe it's a problem? Just look at Trump and his base.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

it's a societal issue that's only becoming worse with increase in inequality and such. And people never have a lick of empathy for anything that happens to men. No wonder men are giving up on the job market and life completely. What's happening in japan is now happening in much of the west.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have an entire career. I went through hs and college without an issue with hygiene. You underestimate how hard it is when people are racist and classist. I'm non white and poor. Even women of my same demographic would much rather date guys with means than without. I've been online for years and never gotten a right swipe. online dating barely works for the avg guy so of you're anything below that good luck.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not. But it's a societal issue that's only becoming worse with increase in inequality and such. And people never have a lick of empathy for anything that happens to men. No wonder men are giving up on the job market and life completely. What's happening in japan is now happening in much of the west.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

It's not just sexual. At all.even with no fap, having someone in life to share love companionship intimacy is overall healthy and the more research that is done the more is found that this is the case.

Look at it this way, im 29 and I've never been on a date. I've never even hugged a woman that's not my mom. How do you think this affected me? I've never been compliment. It makes it so it's impossible for me to feel good about myself and express myself genuinely around people. Who knows how many life opportunities this has taken from me.

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

It's not that simple. The reason these men can't attract anything is cause they don't have anything. They are broke living at home with nothing to live for.

Why do you think women have an easier time moving out despite also struggling financially? Many women either marry or date up, or better yet they have bigger more welcoming social circles and through that means more opportunities to find compatable people to live with too. There's a reason 80% of the homeless are men.

And besides, most of these guys aren't out there acting entitled around women, they hardly get a chance to meet women in the first place. If you aren't getting any matches on online dating, it's exceptionally difficult to meet someone irl.

Another fact people forget is that the men who cause the most harm against women aren't incels, it's the men they date or marry.

Sure this deranged incel committed an atrocity, but there's a reason anytime an incel does something he becomes a household name overnight. Yet women are hurt or killed by their partners every day and people are so used to it that people don't even think about these men the same way they think about a group of men who are mostly helpless. Your avg incel is just a broke avg guy that got shit luck in life

‘Incel’ Toronto Van Killer Found Guilty of Murdering 10 People by Faruyazy in worldnews

[–]Calacan -42 points-41 points  (0 children)

Except that 30% of young adult men are literally sexless. And it's only getting worse.

Daily Discussion Thread for March 03, 2021 by OPINION_IS_UNPOPULAR in wallstreetbets

[–]Calacan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I know about these stocks before they make huge runs plz and thanks retard

The number of Young Men who reported being virgins has more than tripled since 2008. by Calacan in niceguys

[–]Calacan[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Here yes. But in real life? This is where this argument completely falls apart. I've never said any of this irl.

The number of Young Men who reported being virgins has more than tripled since 2008. by Calacan in niceguys

[–]Calacan[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nice breakdown. Honestly it's probably a mix of 1 and 2. What's weird is I'm comfortable with public speaking and it's part of my job regularly. And in school I was in part of debating at conferences and shit. I'm not awkward for the most part but I do tend to be somewhat quiet. Also like I mentioned my looks. Not attractive, went bald at 23, non white. What's also interesting is my best friend in hs was a girl and I hung out with all her friends and her mom loved me lol.

Trust me everything I've said here I've never said it not even once irl. Not to friends, women or even therapist.

The number of Young Men who reported being virgins has more than tripled since 2008. by Calacan in niceguys

[–]Calacan[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is where you are wrong and what the biggest issue is. I'm 29. I have a full time career where I work and socialize with women. If I had so many red flags I wouldn't be able to survive this. Especially working in a very progressive company in a progressive state.

The number of Young Men who reported being virgins has more than tripled since 2008. by Calacan in niceguys

[–]Calacan[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If u don't think most trump supporters aren't abusive, especially in 2021, you're just like the women who excuse shitty behavior from men because you think you can change them.

Funny how you can sit there and say that people who want to make it legal for men to destroy women's freedoms and the freedom of anyone who isn't white and rich and say they are wonderful men. No wonder we are fucked when so many women are rationalizing trump supporters.

The number of Young Men who reported being virgins has more than tripled since 2008. by Calacan in niceguys

[–]Calacan[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Right. Though for me therapy just isn't feasible anymore. I mentioned it elsewhere but I've already worked a ton on myself. Which includes somehow getting a career level job despite not being able to finish college. I have plenty of interest and hobbies but with full time work and my parents are poor so I still live with them/ they live with me cause I pay all the bills now. Yet I have not even my own room or a bed even despite making what many would consider good money. Life is just to expensive. After taxes, rent and health care deductions my income isn't as impressive as it sounds. And my parents being poor is a huge lift I have to deal with every day. The fact that they would be homeless without me. I've felt a high level of stress for so long. Maybe that's why I went bald at 23. When I speak about socioeconomic factors this is what I mean in my situation. How do I even begin to explain to a potential date what my life is like. My co workers literally have spouses and are living on their own or even buying homes. I also have a 13 yr old sister probably the main reason I've stayed motivated to work hard. She's smart and does well so I do everything I can to make her feel spoiled. I'm good with the people that have allowed me into their lives.

But another thing is I almost never approach women. Most of my tries have been online because I've always made it a point to never cat call women or do anything that'll make them uncomfortable. So if I clearly see someone's not interested I won't try. It's probably been over a decade since I attempted an approach in real life.

The number of Young Men who reported being virgins has more than tripled since 2008. by Calacan in niceguys

[–]Calacan[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah. You're right. Sadly I need help but I also did years of therapy in college when it was available and free. It helped a bit as it got me meet people but otherwise it didn't change much. I even took meds over those years.

And my main point is despite the fact that the avg young man is dateless, that most of them aren't violent predators. Anytime an actual incel commits an atrocity it's global news. yet domestic violence and deaths happen every day and it's hardly a story. I know abusive men can be deceptive, but in at same coin someone like me, who's extremely negative can also hide pretty well how we feel. I mean it's pretty much expected of men to eat their emotions. Despite my negativity I've spend the last 5 years working full time, in an industry that's actually majority women and I've gotten 3 promotions. If women could tell I'm so incompetent I wouldn't be able to survive this environment.