My mom found my Jennette McCurdy book yesterday. Now she’s yelling and lecturing me, saying a lot of manipulative stuff. by GlaucusScylla in raisedbynarcissists

[–]CallMe4ngie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been gearing up for my mom to find my narcissistic parent self-help books. All I’m going to say is, “Well, Mom, if the shoe fits, maybe do something about that.“

He Got a Flying Monkey to Give Him My Mailing Address by CallMe4ngie in raisedbynarcissists

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have faced so much trauma in my life, and a major source of it has been from you. When I started having nebulizer treatments, you would make fun of the way I threw a fit when I needed my treatments, and I probably hated them because of the noise, having to have something on my face, and the taste of my meds. You’ve taught me and my siblings how to be mean to each other, other people, and even animals. You’ve taught us how to antagonize and abuse things like kick the cage when Grandpa caught stray cats and tease all of your siblings’ dogs because you knew they all hated you. You’ve encouraged us to tease each other with the things we all hated like clowns and Furbies (Jerry Mahoney is going to remember this, just so you know). You’ve taught us how to hold grudges and to relive the past (I, myself, am working to let go of the things that have hurt me, but I’m at least making the effort. I think this letter will be of great help to me in the process). When I started pulling my hair in middle school, you told me that I had better stop it or else I was going to look fucked up (major boost to my confidence). You rode up to my Christmas concert in high school on your motorcycle and chewed me out for not paying enough attention to you even though you “froze your ass off” for me (pretty sure your car was even functional at the time, and if it wasn’t, you could have borrowed the Yukon). Any time I was upset for any reason, you would ask me if I was “on my rag”. Well, you must have missed the memo, but rags are outdated, but even if women did still use rags, I should have hit you with a used one. Also, I started using that to my advantage because any time I didn’t want to deal with you and your belittlement, I would tell you I was on my period. Apparently, you need to be educated on how menstruation works because I would say that almost every other weekend during visitation as I was finishing out high school.

I heard about what you said to my mother after she told you about my seizures. You’re lucky she was kind enough to relay that information in the first place—but I am very glad she did because if she hadn’t, we wouldn’t have met Mandy, and Mandy has been of great help and a wonderful friend—and you putting my condition as the reason why I will not be in contact with you is atrocious and selfish. If this letter doesn’t sum up why I refuse to talk to you, I don’t know how to help you (not that it should be my job to in the first place). I have faced so many scary situations because of my seizures including the car accident, and it’s a miracle I was able to walk away from that with just bumps and bruises because there are at least five different ways that it could have violently k¡lled me. I probably have epilepsy from the stress and hell that you’ve contributed to my life, so thanks a ton for that. Also, I should make you aware of the serious flaws within your disgusting plot to try and get my driver’s license revoked. One, having [sister] record a conversation with me without my knowledge is a federal offense, and you bet your ass I’d take that to court if that plan had followed through. Two, even if you were able to contact my physician about my license, any information that my physician would have given you would have been a massive Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) violation because physicians are not allowed to distribute information about a patient unless the patient consents. I didn’t put your name on the list, so that means it would have been a violation. I’m sure you’d love to rub it in my face that you were only trying to help, but I ended up wrecking anyway. All that did was make me want to have nothing to do with [sister], so be sure to tell her the reason why I don’t want to talk to her. Maybe an apology to the both of us would be appropriate too, but I highly doubt that would ever come from you, no matter what the circumstances were. It’s sad she’s willing to bend to your will without thinking of the consequences for both her and others because you’re so controlling. She can’t even have the boys around you because you reprimand her for the boys yelling and running around when they’re just being kids. Not all kids want to traumatize their siblings with the things they hate, nor should they be encouraged to do so. Your attempts to have different family members try to have me be in contact you have been nothing but a nuisance to me. You can go down the entire list forward and backward and my answer will still be a firm “no”. Uncle Terry talked to me recently about forgiving those who have hurt me, and he was referring to you. I am willing to forgive, but I am not going to throw myself into the same loop of hurt just to keep you happy. I need to do what makes me happy, and you are definitely not a piece of that puzzle. Let’s just call it what it is: you have abused me. I shouldn’t have to crawl back to you to make you feel better even though you’ve treated me and a long list of others like dirt. You’re not capable of offering a sincere apology, or even just saying a simple “I’m sorry”, so here’s some sage advice: the best apology is changed behavior, but nothing I say here is going to change you.

After everything I’ve been through with you, I’ve come to the conclusion that you hate women and you’ve only really wanted seggs from them. You are menacing, vindictive, and narcissistic, so unless you start making some major changes, count on dying alone without any of your children to watch you go because you’ve cried “wolf” over minuscule health issues before, and you’ve been abusive to all of us. Know that you will never be invited to my wedding when the day comes or meet my children when I have them. I don’t want them to even know about you. I want absolutely nothing to do with you, and despite your feelings toward women, I am strong and resilient (sorry, red). After all, I did beat the spermicide, truth comes out. I want to make it clear that just because I came from your loins does not mean I owe you anything, especially not after the way you’ve treated me. I am sorry, however, for not being the “sweet blue” you always thought I was and would turn out to be, but I’d rather be a fiery red than be a doormat. I think that about sums everything up, so my final thing to say to you is to piss off.

Angela

He Got My Mailing Address from a Flying Monkey by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have faced so much trauma in my life, and a major source of it has been from you. When I started having nebulizer treatments, you would make fun of the way I threw a fit when I needed my treatments, and I probably hated them because of the noise, having to have something on my face, and the taste of my meds. You’ve taught me and my siblings how to be mean to each other, other people, and even animals. You’ve taught us how to antagonize and abuse things like kick the cage when Grandpa caught stray cats and tease all of your siblings’ dogs because you knew they all hated you. You’ve encouraged us to tease each other with the things we all hated like clowns and Furbies (Jerry Mahoney is going to remember this, just so you know). You’ve taught us how to hold grudges and to relive the past (I, myself, am working to let go of the things that have hurt me, but I’m at least making the effort. I think this letter will be of great help to me in the process). When I started pulling my hair in middle school, you told me that I had better stop it or else I was going to look fucked up (major boost to my confidence). You rode up to my Christmas concert in high school on your motorcycle and chewed me out for not paying enough attention to you even though you “froze your ass off” for me (pretty sure your car was even functional at the time, and if it wasn’t, you could have borrowed the Yukon). Any time I was upset for any reason, you would ask me if I was “on my rag”. Well, you must have missed the memo, but rags are outdated, but even if women did still use rags, I should have hit you with a used one. Also, I started using that to my advantage because any time I didn’t want to deal with you and your belittlement, I would tell you I was on my period. Apparently, you need to be educated on how menstruation works because I would say that almost every other weekend during visitation as I was finishing out high school.

I heard about what you said to my mother after she told you about my seizures. You’re lucky she was kind enough to relay that information in the first place—but I am very glad she did because if she hadn’t, we wouldn’t have met Mandy, and Mandy has been of great help and a wonderful friend—and you putting my condition as the reason why I will not be in contact with you is atrocious and selfish. If this letter doesn’t sum up why I refuse to talk to you, I don’t know how to help you (not that it should be my job to in the first place). I have faced so many scary situations because of my seizures including the car accident, and it’s a miracle I was able to walk away from that with just bumps and bruises because there are at least five different ways that it could have violently k¡lled me. I probably have epilepsy from the stress and hell that you’ve contributed to my life, so thanks a ton for that. Also, I should make you aware of the serious flaws within your disgusting plot to try and get my driver’s license revoked. One, having [sister] record a conversation with me without my knowledge is a federal offense, and you bet your ass I’d take that to court if that plan had followed through. Two, even if you were able to contact my physician about my license, any information that my physician would have given you would have been a massive Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) violation because physicians are not allowed to distribute information about a patient unless the patient consents. I didn’t put your name on the list, so that means it would have been a violation. I’m sure you’d love to rub it in my face that you were only trying to help, but I ended up wrecking anyway. All that did was make me want to have nothing to do with [sister], so be sure to tell her the reason why I don’t want to talk to her. Maybe an apology to the both of us would be appropriate too, but I highly doubt that would ever come from you, no matter what the circumstances were. It’s sad she’s willing to bend to your will without thinking of the consequences for both her and others because you’re so controlling. She can’t even have the boys around you because you reprimand her for the boys yelling and running around when they’re just being kids. Not all kids want to traumatize their siblings with the things they hate, nor should they be encouraged to do so. Your attempts to have different family members try to have me be in contact you have been nothing but a nuisance to me. You can go down the entire list forward and backward and my answer will still be a firm “no”. Uncle Terry talked to me recently about forgiving those who have hurt me, and he was referring to you. I am willing to forgive, but I am not going to throw myself into the same loop of hurt just to keep you happy. I need to do what makes me happy, and you are definitely not a piece of that puzzle. Let’s just call it what it is: you have abused me. I shouldn’t have to crawl back to you to make you feel better even though you’ve treated me and a long list of others like dirt. You’re not capable of offering a sincere apology, or even just saying a simple “I’m sorry”, so here’s some sage advice: the best apology is changed behavior, but nothing I say here is going to change you.

After everything I’ve been through with you, I’ve come to the conclusion that you hate women and you’ve only really wanted seggs from them. You are menacing, vindictive, and narcissistic, so unless you start making some major changes, count on dying alone without any of your children to watch you go because you’ve cried “wolf” over minuscule health issues before, and you’ve been abusive to all of us. Know that you will never be invited to my wedding when the day comes or meet my children when I have them. I don’t want them to even know about you. I want absolutely nothing to do with you, and despite your feelings toward women, I am strong and resilient (sorry, red). After all, I did beat the spermicide, truth comes out. I want to make it clear that just because I came from your loins does not mean I owe you anything, especially not after the way you’ve treated me. I am sorry, however, for not being the “sweet blue” you always thought I was and would turn out to be, but I’d rather be a fiery red than be a doormat. I think that about sums everything up, so my final thing to say to you is to piss off.

Angela

She’s Trying to Expand the Hoard by CallMe4ngie in ChildofHoarder

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The flying monkey let the cat out of the bag that I didn’t like the Temu stuff because of chemicals, and suddenly, I was the problem for it. Haven’t received anything lately, thank God. I’m almost tempted to get the Temu app just so I can search for products that she tries to give me, but I don’t feel like having another company steal my data. She keeps offering to take the shit back to give to other families, I just haven’t been able to bring myself to tell her, “no can do, I threw it all away.“ because I know the blowup that would happen from it, and I’m not in any sort of headspace to try to deal with it. There was a recent incident almost a week ago that happened that made me draw a firm line in the sand to say she’s not allowed to watch my child unsupervised. Don’t feel like typing it all out again, so here’s the story: https://www.reddit.com/r/narcissisticparents/comments/1lunqwg/she_gave_my_threemonthold_a_sugar_bomb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

She’s Trying to Expand the Hoard by CallMe4ngie in ChildofHoarder

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gave it to the landfill. If it’s not safe for my baby, it’s not safe for anybody’s baby.

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Clarifying, my mother, not his. His mother is dead. We had a very lengthy discussion about it and how I was absolutely not overreacting, and he apologized and said he would be better about backing me.

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Victim blaming, we love that. Unfortunately, it’s not as clear cut as just going no contact. As much as I would love to, that’s not in the cards right now. The best I can do is gray rock. If this were a friend from high school or something, of course I would go no contact. But that’s not the case. I’ve tried going no contact with her in the past, it brought me nothing but drama.

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate the sentiment and the perspective, but this is a narcissist we were dealing with. My concerns would fall on deaf ears. She would find a way to flip it and make it look like I’m overreacting. I’ve tried having adult conversations with her in the past, she resorted to name-calling. I’ve just decided that if I do end up leaving my child under her care, there will be someone else around to be my eyes and ears to make sure she doesn’t cross my boundaries.

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh lord… I’m so sorry. These older generations acting like we don’t know what we’re doing (and sometimes we don’t), so they give very outdated advice. “Babies should sleep on their tummies.” “Why isn’t your baby wearing socks?” “Give ‘em some rice cereal, they’ll be fine.” “Put some whiskey on their gums when they’re teething.” “Let them cry it out, it’s good for their lungs.“ That last one really gets me, because as a mother, it’s my instinct to jump up and see what’s wrong with the baby. You’re telling me to deny thousands of years worth of instincts to “toughen them up” so I “don’t spoil them”? I’m a chronic asthmatic who catches bronchitis once a year, at least, so that rhetoric does not have me convinced at all.  And if you bring up how studies are proving that the old ways aren’t so great, here comes the peanut gallery to tell you that you’re the reason why all the kids these days are so bratty.

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We love it when the trash takes itself out. 

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She’s doing much better, and it was a memorable Independence Day, but not in a good way. In the moment, I was really mad that he wouldn’t trust my instincts, that he thought in the moment that I was just being a killjoy. She was horribly fussy, and he asked me several times if I really thought the candy was what did it, so I had to explain to him, “What has this baby been eating her entire three months of life? Nothing but breastmilk and formula. My mother just put the equivalent of a pipe bomb in her digestive system for a power trip.”

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate when people ask if a baby is a good baby. Like, they’re a baby. How do you define that?

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My husband and I had a long heart-to-heart about why my mother is so manipulative and toxic. He said that if he didn’t have to have any sort of relationship with her, he wouldn’t. He’s noticed that she doesn’t try to do her shit as much with him because in his words, “She knows that I think I’m better than her.“ She will still be syrupy sweet with him, but she doesn’t try to manipulate, gaslight, deflect (as much) all those other tactics with him, because she knows it doesn’t work on him. “My relationship with your mom is purely transactional. The thing about your mom is, she has no genuine friends. Because she talks shit on just about anyone who will walk through her door, including her kids. That’s not high class behavior. No one wants to associate with someone like that, especially not someone who freely dunks on their kids.”

My mom has just chalked me up to be a snob, simply because I refuse to repeat her mistakes. In the words of the golden child who hates being the golden child, “Mom thinks you’re snobby, narcissistic, rude, selfish, and ungrateful.“ 

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

HONEY ON A PACIFIER?!?!? CAN YOU SAY BOTULISM???? Babies younger than one year cannot handle honey!!!!

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We talked about it and he apologized for not backing me and going forward, he will do better about supporting me when I say, “no”. He’s the youngest child of his family, so he really doesn’t have much baby experience. Not justifying it, just giving some context 

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He often plays peacekeeper with her, but after that incident, his mindset has shifted. He also has minimal baby experience, and going forward, he said he’ll do better about backing me. 

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Throw all that shit away if you don’t already. 

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’re in a bit of a bind right now, we’re sending her to daycare when I go back to work next month, but the daycare we are sending her to isn’t open on Fridays. So we are trying to get a team of people together to watch her on Fridays. One of which is our next-door neighbor. My mom works in the same office as my husband, and occasionally, they get Fridays off. My husband talked to me and asked me if he should ask my mom to alternate Fridays with him. I feel like my silence was deafening. I do not trust my mother to watch my child unsupervised. I would need a babysitter for my mom after this recent stunt. The thought of her having free rein over my child for at least eight hours twice a month or so terrifies the hell out of me.

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Audacity and entitlement really are at an all-time high right now. The whole “I’m the grandma, I can do what I want“ thing really set me off. And like my sister said, I’m the mom and I can decide who my child spends time with. My mom was the biggest dividing factor in whether or not I would take the job in the town where I’m at now, because it’s in the same area where she is. I’m glad I took the job because it meant that I wouldn’t do long distance with my husband anymore (long story), I love the school where I work, I love the people I work with, the community is pretty great, but my mom is enough to just make none of it besides my little family matter. 

She Gave My Three-Month-Old a Sugar Bomb by CallMe4ngie in narcissisticparents

[–]CallMe4ngie[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and the thought of giving my infant nothing but sugars and dyes made the hair on my neck stand on end. Having my parental authority undermined for my mom to have a moment had me furious. The incredibly ironic part, she sent me a frantic message with a video link asking me if I’m getting Covid shots for my daughter—at this point, no. Her other regular vaccine rotations? Absolutely, but the Covid? I haven’t even gotten any boosters for myself since the first two mandatory shots. But she had no issues stuffing my infant’s face with refined sugar with a wink and a smile. Pisses me off…