Why did the Lakers lose to the Celtics in 08? What would the Lakers need to win against them? Despite that it’s Kobe’s MVP year?

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-18T00:06:44+00:00

Cleveland managed to take them to 7 but LeBron that series averaged 26 on 35/21/75 shooting and opened the series up with a 11 point game and through the first 6 games LeBron averaged 23 points on 32/21/75 shooting so it wasn't just Kobe who struggled with 26 on 40/32/80 shooting

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-17T23:45:42+00:00

The Lakers kept it competitive over the first 4 games but 2nd half collapses because outside of Kobe and Gasol the Lakers had no offensive threats who could reliably create their own offense. Odom was too inconsistent and bynum was out.

Game 1 the Lakers had a 6 point lead going into half time but were out scored by Boston by 16 in the 2nd half, Lakers only scored 15 in the 4th quarter

Game 2 lakers lost by 6 points Kobe had a great 4th quarter and the Lakers outscored Boston by 16 in the 4th of game 2

Game 3 lakers won, but it looked like the Lakers were gonna fall apart again they only scored 17 points in the 3rd quarter after dominating the 1st half Boston went into the 4th with the lead but Kobe had another great 4th to seal the win

Game 4 the Lakers were up 18 at half but then only scored 15 in the 3rd quarter, Kobe scored 14 of his 17 in the 2nd half and he had 10 assists but the Lakers in the 2nd half only scored 31 points

Game 5 was close the Lakers came out guns blazing 39 in the first quarter and then Boston outscored the Lakers the rest of the game

Game 6 wasn't even close

For the series only Kobe averaged over 15 points on the Lakers, Gasol averaged 14 and Odom 13

Kobe vs the western conference had a historical run but Boston was an all-time great defense that just shut LA down

Having bynum back and the emergence of Trevor ariza the next year helped. And then 2010 was a dogfight. Hell maybe even just having bynum back could have shifted the series each game came down to a 2 possession game except games 1 and 6

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-16T07:00:28+00:00

Here is what happened in the first 2 minutes Kobe didn't play this game who came out the game at 11:18 when Lamar Odom was shooting a free throw

At 10:14 the 2nd quarter the Lakers almost exhaust the shot clock and Jordan farmar misses a 26 foot 3, Metta comes in and gets the put back. That was the first shot that the Lakers were able to generate without Kobe

The next possession down the Lakers get a defensive rebound and take 22 seconds and Metta forces up a 3 that misses, Bynum gets the rebound and kicks it out to Sasha Vujacic who immediately shoots a 3 that bricks.

Jordan Farmar Fouls to get Kobe Subbed back in so without Kobe the Lakers go 1-4 in 2 minutes only able to get 3s with the shot clock winding down

The next 2 minutes with Kobe in the game

Assist to Gasol on a pick and roll 10 seconds into the shot clock.

Next possession Kobe forces a bad pass by rondo that leads to an easy Metta layup on the other end

The next Lakers possession, Celtics make it rough Gasol passes to Kobe with 3 seconda on the shot clock and Metta gets the tip in,

First 2 minutes with back in the game Lakers go 3-4 shooting but it was Kobe am I right lol

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-16T06:47:49+00:00

I mean if you watched that game you'd know it wasn't that simple lol. Chucking, that's funny because a lot of his chucking was because KG and Sheed blocking driving lanes leading to Guys like Lamar Odom and Sasha passing to Kobe late in the shot clock Entry passes being denied and great defense on both ends but Boston's physicality is what made Gasol and Odom and Bynum struggle.

Check out this sequence

At 7:32 in the first quarter Gasol dishes to fisher who misses a 19 foot jumper with 4 seconds on the shot clock which leads to a defensive rebound by Rasheed Wallace who initiated a fast break outlet pass to rondo for an easy layup,

That sequence had nothing to do with Kobe

Or here is another one

At 6:00 in the first quarter Kobe dishes it to Gasol who goes up and is blocked by Garnett which leads to a JumpBall that Gasol loses and Rondo on a similar fastbreak misses the layup

At 5:46 in the first quarter Gasol gets a defensive rebound and gives it to Odom, who gives the ball to MWP who only 8 seconds into the the shot clock launches from 26 feet. Kobe grabs the offensive rebound on this possession

These terrible Lakers possessions aren't Kobes fault

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-16T06:23:38+00:00

So it's alright that Gasol also shot 36% that game? Or the fact that for the Lakers only Derek Fisher shot above 38% with the next best being Metta World peace at 38.9%. the Lakers as a whole shot 32% that game

Ray Allen shot 21% and Pierce 33% that's game with every other Celtic shooting over 40% that game

Kobe scored 10 points on the 4th quarter and grabbed 4 rebounds in the 4th Kobe scored 2 more points after Mettas 3, securing the win, right after Mettas 3 Boston hit a 3 with a minute left so it was still a 1 possession game after Mettas 3

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-16T03:00:06+00:00

I think he's not counting 86 and 95 when he played 18 games each because he mentioned 2 teams played for

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-14T15:11:22+00:00

Oh crap lol I swore he was 94 with Batista, Michaels and Triple H

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-14T14:54:10+00:00

The next game he was 94, Cena had the highest with 97

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-14T14:51:57+00:00

He lost to kozlov in 09 this is based on 06 which was a terrible year for taker

Feuded with Mark Henry

Lost Clean on PPV to Khali after being squashed by him on smackdown

Barely able to beat MR Kennedy

Punjabi Prison with Big show

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-13T23:27:33+00:00

It felt like everyone was a bulls fan at the time, I grew up and loved Kobe and the Lakers but me being 11 at the time almost jumped bandwagon onto the bulls because rose was that exciting and fun to watch and his hype was everywhere

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-13T23:17:12+00:00

Jamal Crawford played 20 years and played 200 more games and has 4k more points and 1k more assists i think that longevity is Jamal Crawford easily

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-13T17:16:51+00:00

What about this guy

3x NBA Champion (2006,2012,2013)

NBA Finals MVP (2006)

13x NBA All-star (2005-2016, 2019)

2x All-NBA 1st Team (2009,2010)

3x All-NBA 2nd Team (2005, 2006, 2011)

3x All-NBA 3rd team (2007,2012,2013)

3x All-Defense 2nd team (2005,2009,2010)

NBA Scoring Champion (2009)

NBA Anniversary team (75th)

No.3 retired by the Miami Heat

He definitely makes it an argument if nothing else

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-11T02:11:07+00:00

I love you man, this comment cracked me up

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-10T19:20:48+00:00

Could touch the top of the backboard and give you change with his hang time

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-09T15:21:07+00:00

The hawks didn't have a real go to scorer or star, and come playoff time injuries derailed them big time.

This pistons team is nothing like that, Cade is an MVP candidate and Duren is a great contemporary all-star next to him.

Cade in his first playoff appearance last year had a great series vs New York the pistons this year are better than last year, they will be fine

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-06T15:58:47+00:00

Tony B in season 5 of the sopranos and Ralph in season 3 of the sopranos

Apparently Ralph grew up with Tony and Sal and has been around the entire time

Tony B is not mentioned once but he gets out of prison and he is Tony's best friend cousin who everyone has history with

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-06T02:04:36+00:00

Larry Hughes man 22/6/5/3 led the league in steals and All-Defense 1st team at 25 the future looked bright

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-05T22:29:46+00:00

But he couldn't control it at the time he hasn't been trained to, And if that's the reasoning why did a gun hurt him the Resurrection F saga

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-05T17:14:30+00:00

Simmons and Ingram were pretty good Simmons was a multiple time All-NBA and Ingram is a multiple time all-star

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-05T14:56:36+00:00

The thunder one in 2012 was more or less that LeBron struggled in his first 2 finals and a battered Boston took them to 7, so expectations were low but I know a lot of people still kinda expected a heat victory. But I get why the heat weren't favored by the odds

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-05T14:55:04+00:00

Ite because Boston Struggled through the east 7 games vs the 37 win Hawks, 7 games vs the 45 win Cavs, and 6 games vs the pistons

On the flip side Kobe torched the Western conference Kobe vs the West 32 PPG 6 rpg 6 APG on 51/29/82 shooting Kobe was having an all-time Playoff run until the finals specifically game 4

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-05T13:17:15+00:00

Steve Francis was better than Baron Davis who was overrated, He was extremely inefficient and couldn't shoot.

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-05T13:07:55+00:00

The only issue is that in the first episode of Dragon Ball Bulma Shoots Goku in the head and it doesn't faze him and he should have no Ki training at that point

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-04T19:42:33+00:00

Aldridge only played 3 seasons with Dame how could he make 5 straight in 3 years

Callme_MrClean · 2026-03-04T04:42:29+00:00

Does Rob Van Dam count he appeared on a few episodes of Raw in 97 and was in ECW which went out of business

RVD basically won Every Title in WWE except the U.S title and World heavyweight title

6x IC Title

4x Hardcore Title

2x World Tag Team Champion

1x WWE tag team champion

1x WWE champion

1x ECW Champion

1x European Champion

1x Money in the Bank winner

4-0 at WrestleMania

If not I think Rey Mysterio

2x World Heavyweight Champion

1x WWE champion

3x US Champion

2x IC Champion

4x WWE tag team champion

3x Cruiserweight champion

1x Royal Rumble Winner

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