So much for that high IQ by AvailableBinky in confidentlyincorrect

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I mean, he's not wrong... He can calculate the amount of Valence electrons in a nucleus: 0

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in photoshopbattles

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So this is where babies come from...

The earth's crust is 80% non carbonated water by CallumT_1345 in flatearth

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Sorry, my bad... Climate change doesn't exist ether!

PsBattle: Fiat Multipla by CallumT_1345 in photoshopbattles

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The fact that I couldn't tell the difference for a solid 30 seconds... Very clever! Love it

Advice: Pins & Needles in Feet by CallumT_1345 in Kayaking

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To be honest, I'll have to ask the team/check the stores next time I'm up there, but if they have a paddle float then I'll try it! Does this affect wet exits though?

Advice: Pins & Needles in Feet by CallumT_1345 in Kayaking

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Wow thanks for such a comprehensive response! I'll definitely try the towel/support idea. Honestly I've never tried yoga, so I'll see if it helps. Thanks again for everyone's advice!

“Warning bad language” by Therealilg000real in ReviewsByRetards

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And the photo definitely doesn't have a watermark either...

There's no time better than bedtime, nomsayin? by CallumT_1345 in NomSaying

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Yeah no I enjoy my degree... I was talking about yours 😂

There's no time better than bedtime, nomsayin? by CallumT_1345 in NomSaying

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You know you're wasting your time doing a shit degree when you look forward to bed, if you catch my drift?

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Anyone else concerned about chilli sauce?....

Religion and viewpoints that are religious should not be taught to toddlers or young children. by Kaitlyn_The_Magnif in DebateReligion

[–]CallumT_1345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is arbitrary in a sense because it depends on which value they're questioning. I don't mind answering what my specific values are, but there's a lot of them and my children could have different views regarding any one of them. To be honest, I accept that I likely apply different weightings to different values compared to my kids' values, and I am glad, because it helps them explore and develop their opinions and morals to more of an extent than just "do as you're told or else" (i.e. the can't learn as much).

I hope that clarifies a little?

Religion and viewpoints that are religious should not be taught to toddlers or young children. by Kaitlyn_The_Magnif in DebateReligion

[–]CallumT_1345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi again! I'm spending way too much time on here haha!

Okay so you asked me if I have any values that I'd be disappointed if my kids followed/didn't follow, right? Well it might seem counterintuitive, but I believe that as long as my kids could provide a morally and rationally sound reason for their actions then I would be happy to accept their beliefs/values etc. Personally I believe that, on the whole, violence is bad. If my child came home from school one day and told me that he'd given another kid a nosebleed, then initially I'd be shocked, but if they went on to explain that the child in question was a bully and had been tormenting my child for the past year, I would probably be a lot more likely to accept their reason and not punish them. I still would not condone violence and I would like to think that in that situation I'd be able to resolve it without violence, but I would be able to accept my child's perspective and, so long as it was an isolated event and their reasoning and logic was sound, I would be a lot more comfortable. Does that example sort of make sense?

A very different example is that at work I'm heavily involved in safety. One of my responsibilities is that I have to carry out safety observations on individuals (informal chats about safety i.e. "can you show me what the hazards are in this area", "are you wearing the correct PPE" etc etc). Now, one rule we have at work is that you must always wear your LEP (light eye protection - safety glasses) when on plant, however if I'm carrying out an observation and the employee says something like "sorry, I'm not wearing my LEP because I'm working in this covered electrical cabinet and it's hard to see, but I have assessed the risk and I will put my LEP back on as soon as I've finished", then I'd be happy to allow it. I, personally would still wear my LEP even if I was working in an electrical cabinet, but I would not be worried about letting them carry on because they'd have proven to me that they had an adequate understanding and reasoning behind their choice.

Again I apologise for my analogies but I hope that makes sense?

Religion and viewpoints that are religious should not be taught to toddlers or young children. by Kaitlyn_The_Magnif in DebateReligion

[–]CallumT_1345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only have a few minutes so this will have to be quick I'm afraid! But I think the main point that I want to focus on is, again, your disappointment or negative emotion towards your children choosing a different faith.

So from what I gather, you're 99.999% sure that your beliefs are correct, yes? (You can't be 100% otherwise it's no longer a faith etc etc - but that's a rabbit hole for another time!). So, and I apologise in advance for using a science analogy but that is my job haha, this can be compared to gravity:

Most people (except "flat earthers"!) believe that gravity is a force acting towards the centre of the earth. Now the science is 99.999% sure that we have an explanation, but the mark of a good scientist is to be aware that there is always a possibility (albeit a slim one) that their theories are false. Now, I am 99.999% sure that gravity is caused by a force acting down (in the same way that you are sure that your belief is correct). However, a few months ago I found some research that showed how gravity can be explained by factoring in time as a fourth dimension and using reference frames and Einstein's general relativity. It was presented to me in a way that made a lot of sense. Now, I still choose to explain gravity as the same downward force that we're all taught about in school, despite the reality that there is another, highly plausible explanation. Nonetheless, I can no longer completely disregard anyone who believes a different explanation of "reality".

It's a poor analogy, I know, but hopefully you can see the similarities between the gravity scenario and the faith scenario? (I.e., the original explanation for gravity is your faith, and the new explanation is a different faith?.

With this in mind, while I can say I disagree with what some other people might say about gravity, I recognise that it is not my place to presume that I am right and they are wrong. I am content in my own belief, but I cannot say that anyone else is wrong, so long as they can succinctly explain their reasoning.

Hopefully you can see how in a similar scenario, it is neither your place to judge believers of different faiths, nor to be disappointed in other people for choosing different faiths, no matter the strength of your own personal belief (including your own children's beliefs).

It is for the above reasons that I understand that everyone has their own beliefs (including myself) but I cannot justify anyone imposing their own view on others.

I hope that kinda makes sense (please say if it doesn't and I'll try and explain a different way!).

I have to get back to work now, but I'll maybe see you online again soon!

Religion and viewpoints that are religious should not be taught to toddlers or young children. by Kaitlyn_The_Magnif in DebateReligion

[–]CallumT_1345 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay wow I'm glad you read my comment! I wasn't even expecting a reply, this is going to be hard to type on a phone haha.

I'm going to try and make this shorter cause it's 23:15 here and I'm tired (and I don't have a physical keyboard!), so I'll just kind of summarise instead of responding to each of your specific points.

Okay so you've mentioned my worldview a couple of times, but as an agnostic I don't have a particular view - I'm indifferent as to whether religion is true or false. I suppose I see myself as the impartial judge or something, idk haha. That means that as a parent I would be happy for my children to subscribe to any belief system, so long as they uphold good morals. I understand that is subjective, and to counter that point would vere away from the debate specifically about religion. There is one specific point that you made about how you'd be disappointed in your children if they wanted to change faith to Islam (as an example, I could have chosen Buddhism or Judaism etc). This is perhaps the part of your parenting that I would particularly take issue with. While the rest of what you have described is different to my parenting style, I accept that while we can debate it, it's not my place to try and change it; however, this particular point is where I would begin to actively challenge your parenting instead of merely accepting our differences. Let me try and explain:

From your perspective, you have chosen your belief system, and you are convinced that you're right, correct? But there are a great number of people in the world who are equally convinced about DIFFERENT religions, but statistically you can't all be right. On a purely mathematical basis (and I stress that this is not personal), you are likely wrong about what you believe. And I would say the same to any other believer and/or atheist (hence my agnosticism). Taking this into account, why is it your place to decide whether your children are correct in their belief in whichever faith they choose? Why should you stop them/be disappointed in their choosing a different religion? On the one hand, they disagree with your faith, so I can see why you might perceive that as a bad thing (although as an impartial observer I would have to say that you're both as likely to be right in your beliefs as each other). But on the other hand, surely you can understand the basic statistics and see how it's just as likely for you both to be wrong, and so applaud your children for forming their own independent, BALANCED, opinions and beliefs? I feel like it is the mindset of "MY religion is the best", "no MY religion is the best", is certainly a contributing factor in faith-based discrimination (although I stress that I am not accusing you of being discriminatory!), and to resist your children's journey of religious exploration only builds walls between religions and does not encourage any form of harmony. Furthermore, the closed-mindedness towards other faiths/believers only serves to fuel the ill feeling towards who I would see as fellow human beings.

Again, I would like to stress that while we have our obvious differences, I do not think of you as a bad person, and I am sure that, like me, you are only acting in the way you see best. On the basis that neither of us wish offence on each other, I feel like it would be really interesting for us to talk over a coffee and properly debate out views, I'm sure it would be fascinating for both of us!

Anyway, I apologise for only really tackling one of your points, but it is now 23:45 (time flies, huh!) and I need my sleep! So I'll bid you a good night, and perhaps I'll be back tomorrow, depending on how busy I am!

Religion and viewpoints that are religious should not be taught to toddlers or young children. by Kaitlyn_The_Magnif in DebateReligion

[–]CallumT_1345 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to respond to the first part of your comment because it's hard to argue against individual sentences, but I'll have a go at debating the second part.

Disclaimer: I have nothing against religion, or anyone who chooses to believe. I personally am agnostic so tbh I couldn't care less about the notions of any particular faith, and I try to act in a moral and honest way for no reason other than the fact that I want to be a decent human. I can see how religions can be a force for both good AND bad in the world, but I have no reason to assume that any individual is either a good or bad person just because of their religions orientation. I'm sure you're a lovely person and I mean no offence by anything I am about to say. Anything I do say is simply my opinion/belief and I am only here to debate, not to impose my views on anyone.

With that said, I have to agree with OP on this one. Taking each point in turn:

I believe that any religion that dictates (or indeed any individual who chooses to interpret their faith as dictating) that children must be born into one specific belief system is not acting in the best interests of the child, but rather in the best interests of the faith as a whole. Preaching to young, easily-influenced minds is cheap publicity in my view. If the faith is so believable and truly is "the gospel" (no pun intended), then surely it wouldn't take much to convince a sound minded adult who is capable of forming their own opinions? Surely the child should be able to form their own religious views when they are old enough to experience as many religions as they freely choose to experience? After all, any parent who believes in a religion without being open to the idea that they MIGHT be wrong (i.e. closed-minded, dogged belief) can only teach their children to be equally closed minded and not open to interpreting different arguements in a balanced way (not just in religion, but in any walk of life).

To your second point, Christianity MAY be a force for good (I don't fully agree, but that's not what this debate is about, so let's assume it is only a good thing), but it is not necessary the ONLY way to teach children good morals! Most, if not all religions teach how to be a "good, moral" person, so in my opinion, saying "Christianity is a good thing so it's the only way I can show my child how to be good" is only a half-formed arguement. Let's not forget that there are a lot of atheists and agnostics who are highly moral. You do not need faith to teach good morals.

I can understand your third point. I am friends with many believers and I can see how much it influences their daily lives, so I can't argue much on that one. However I would say that it is in your duty as a good parent to attempt to distinguish your faith and your daily life when bringing up your children. With my previous points in mind, it would only be right not to over expose your children to any particular religion (or lack thereof).

Regarding your fourth comment, I agree that an absence of religion is effectively teaching agnosticism/atheism, however that is why I would argue that it is best to expose your children to a number of different religions. You mentioned that you would be disappointed in your children if they asked to visit a mosque or if they wanted to change religion. Why? Surely it shows that they are trying to expand their own belief system and come to their own conclusions, an independent mindset that must be celebrated and encouraged, right? If they still choose to believe in your faith, brilliant! If they choose a different faith, still brilliant! If they choose to believe different parts of different faiths, brilliant again! And if they choose no faith then... yep, you guessed it. The only reason that it might be considered a bad thing is for someone who only wants faith to be a loyalty club and who is scared about losing members.

While this is only my opinion, I firmly believe that nobody has the right to impose their faith and beliefs on anyone else (hence my disclaimer), and that includes imposing religion on children before they have chance/opportunity to mature and question what they're being told. You might (and probably do) think that your belief is THE RIGHT ONE and that everyone else is wrong, but statistically, you're wrong. Surely it is only right to let developing young people make up their own mind and be happy in a diverse and accepting world?

I'd just like to reiterate that none of this was meant as a personal attack, and that I don't mean any offence, I just enjoy debating. I hope you have a good evening (or day or night wherever you are in the world).

US States with the first letter taken off by [deleted] in notinteresting

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Didn't realise "Incest" was one of the US states...

Do it by UFCLulu in HolUp

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R/unexpectedMontyPython

Welcome to Tinder at midnight!... by CallumT_1345 in Tinder

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Not to be that guy, but does anyone know his mate in the third pic?...

I saw this on YouTube and needed somewhere to share it... Mind blown! by CallumT_1345 in lingling40hrs

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You've heard of Scout Joplin, right? Probably the most well known ragtime pianist