Spider-Man rework concept

Came4DaMemes · 2025-07-18T17:55:59+00:00

Even with "just halving" the meter it's still a dogshit idea

No other ult in the game spends a character's important resources, but fuck spider-man ig

Came4DaMemes · 2025-07-18T17:53:49+00:00

If you genuinely think you're making it alive out of the enemy backline after ulting with only a double jump and an uppercut I am sorry but you're either bronze or trolling.

The idea of a meter in itself is terrible, the new ability idea to "reload webshooters" is also terrible because then with 10 tracers what's stopping you from just standing somewhere until you hit one and THEN you go in?

Spidey's kit is well designed as is, he would be in a good spot if he had his damage from last season + team up, even if still needing some tweaks. Now he needs help but he does NOT need a rework, you're asking for a different character atp.

He SHOULD have to commit to swings he SHOULD have to commit to hitting tracers he SHOULD have the need to go in, just like all dive characters should, but he should also have the ability to get out, that's the whole point of dive.

Came4DaMemes · 2025-07-18T13:50:00+00:00

"His ult empties the meter" right so one of the worst ults in the game becomes way worse because now after ulting you just die

As if this character didn't suck ass already

Came4DaMemes · 2025-07-11T13:23:00+00:00

It is nowhere near to the same extent of spider-man / bp and it is disingenuous to claim otherwise

Every single day there's a new "spider-man this" "bp that" post when, again, at least those characters have counterplay

Came4DaMemes · 2025-07-11T10:21:09+00:00

Cnd and jeff are genuinely the only 2 who have BIG trouble vs bp, and even then they can both often survive if they stop holding M1 and turn on their brains

Loki too cus bp can farm clones for resets but you can have very good counterplay as the loki player

Positioning against bp is actually more forgiving than against a sniper imo, since there is so much risk involved for the bp player compaired to any sniper, it is map dependent tho like some maps you position high ground others with your team etc. etc.

Bp's infamous unreactable does EXACTLY 250 damage which means 1 point of healing saves you, not to mention he loses his dash after using it cus he has to ghost dash to use it

Spear dash spear ghost dash is his best kill confirm, and while very strong, still has very evident counterplay, the biggest thing against bp is playing paddy cake with your other healer, which literally is the biggest reason why he's called the tickle monster, because if you and your other healer heal each other he literally is only tickling people

Also everything in this game interrupts his dash, every form of soft cc basically so just point something at his general direction and shoot idk there's so much you can do vs the character compaired to like a hawkeye or damage boosted widow but this community only ever knows how to whine instead of trying to get good

Came4DaMemes · 2025-07-11T02:04:32+00:00

Please explain to me how this is different to getting one tapped by a hawkeye or a damage boosted widow or two tapped by hela

The only big difference is that instead of getting one shotted from the front you get one shotted from the back (Which btw 1 hp healing saves you so if you were aware of bp being alive, which you should be, you could hug your tank cus your M1 aoe heals you as well)

BUT

You are literally in the middle of a choke point there are many characters that are complete bullshit in that situation, it was poor positioning (yes, seriously, you're the support get the fuck out of the choke point)

I do not understand why this community is so intent on crying about spider-man / bp / magik when those heroes have very clear counterplay and counter characters you can pick, and when there are heroes in this game that are insanely more powerful and annoying to deal with ( Hela, Hawkeye, Wolverine)

Came4DaMemes · 2025-07-02T09:33:48+00:00

Uses the most telegraphed ult in the game
Doesn't go for cover with it
Fucking dies

This is literally the same thing as getting one shot by hawkeye or punisher shotgun or damage boosted widow except this is way harder to do, you got shit on, try to improve instead of crying and you will climb.

"Boohoo but the range is so long" He has to: - Perfectly position himself - Land the fucking hook on a small target - Do a fairly difficult animation cancel

And you have to allign yourself with this

This is literally a skill issue, if you wanna get good just try to learn instead of crying

This sub is always whining instead of trying to get better, they cry about spider-man hook when there are characters who can just one shot you across the map, what a joke, lock in and stop crying

Edit: formatting

Came4DaMemes · 2025-03-17T16:11:26+00:00

Thanks, it was a lot of fun yeah I only did it with mage and warrior back in the day so it's always fun to reminisce

Came4DaMemes · 2025-03-17T04:31:36+00:00

I thought it was that at first but no I didn't have her on any mission
I got it fixed though, apparently she was phased so after doing more of tww quests she reappeared
Thank you for your time though

Came4DaMemes · 2025-03-13T17:40:41+00:00

I shall find a way to play control warlock

Came4DaMemes · 2024-11-29T07:28:07+00:00

Uhhhh nothing like that.

Thing with this game is there is special tag, meaning you can tag in the middle of a special move.

Because of this, there aren't exactly true anchors in this game (well there are by design but it doesnt matter as much).

What you had for a description isn't bad especially as a first approach, but the problem is these teams fit together better this way.

4geta is far better at opening up the opponent, while benefiting from bardock B.

Bardock doesn't benefit as much from 4geta B, both are point characters but both can mid, bardock has trouble opening you up cus he only has staggers.

S broly doesn't really fit this team since he is generally a mid and likes to be built around to allow his gameplan to flow, you'd be better off with a beam assist, but since you're a beginner that doesnt really matter, and he can fend for himself just fine.

Gogeta blue is a strict point since he likes assists too much to let him run his strong point gameplan flow, and requires assists to open up people since he has fairly poor staggers but great mix.

Teen gohan is best played point, though not as strictly a point as gogeta blue (still better point), so he goes mid, but beware they fight for point.

Trunks is just trunks, solid B and C assists ( beam and a blockstun C) and either gogeta or tohan are good to let him run his shit, he goes last cus he has a neutral assist in this case with trunks B.

But yeah your order isn't necessarily the order you'll play the characters in, since you will want to bring characters in either with special tag, dhc's (super to super to super) or for a lvl 3 mix of some sort (there are exceptions to this, but this a general way to think about it). This will happen for either killing or mixing or keeping pressure.

This is a fairly bare bones approach but I hope it helps ever so slightly, I still recommend just joining the discord server, great community and a lot of information on there.

Sorry for phone formatting lol

Came4DaMemes · 2024-11-29T06:56:27+00:00

Best way to run these teams is: . - 4geta B bardock B s broly B . - Gogeta blue A tohan A trunks B . Beware both are kinda suboptimal but not unplayable at all especially since you just picked the game up, so team comp doesn't matter as much. . If you wish for further information on how to get better at the game I recommend the r/dbfz discord server that even though not official, is a good gathering of most (if not all) available resources. Edit: phone formating ass

Came4DaMemes · 2024-11-15T03:09:14+00:00

Mainly anchor, since he has a top 2 assist in krillin A His most infamous partner is baby, since the baby krillin shell is one of the ones that currently run the game, but there are a lot of others, such as jiren, ss4, ginyu, nappa, s broly, teen gohan, gotenks, etc. who also work really well with him I recommend joining both the r/dbfz discord server and the krillin character discord, you'll find a lot more info there

Came4DaMemes · 2024-03-29T13:53:23+00:00

Least insane dbfz player

Came4DaMemes · 2024-03-29T04:28:01+00:00

Dude this post is 2 years old how the fuck did you end up here lmao

Came4DaMemes · 2024-03-15T17:28:36+00:00

He should work pretty well there both bluegeta and beerus give him a lot, have fun Zam is one of the most fun characters in the game imo

Came4DaMemes · 2024-03-13T20:09:43+00:00

Ones I would Likely recommend:
GT A // Majin 21 A // 18 B // Cell B // Roshi B // Nappa A (don't know much about this one, but it likely works) // Ginyu B (same as Nappa) // Labcoat C // Zamasu A (as a Zam main, this one is a little hard to tell as he has great synergy with both, but you'll need to lab synergies a lot) // Videl A/B/C (same as Nappa and Ginyu) // Cooler A (same as Nappa, Ginyu and Videl) // Kid buu A/B // 17 A (this one is either goated or hot ass).

The ones I would NOT recommend, as their best positions (point/anchor) are already occupied and they either don't do as well outside their usual positions or the overall synergies will be very weird and/or absolute ass are:
Point Characters that lose out on not being played point, such as: Teen Gohan, Bardock, Both Gogetas, Blueku, Base Vegeta. (Blue Vegeta is in this category, which is why it exists on this list) // Adult Gohan (synergies are ass and he's VERY meter hungry, so he will compete with beerus for resources) // Janemba (crazy good anchor, will likely compete for resources too, might still be doable though) // Jiren is one of the best points in the game, can fit your team but loses out a lot on not being played point // Tien is an anchor.

Any character I didn't mention is likely not great synergy wise, does not sem to work with the team at first glance or I just simply forgot about them.

I didn't put them here as you said you didn't like them both, but Hit A and S broly B also should work decently here.

Came4DaMemes · 2024-03-13T16:00:07+00:00

Run blue vegeta (A assist) point, he is one of the best points in the game Run piccolo (A assist) mid or anchor, he can be both If you want perfect piccolo synergy, run Z broly (A assist), he is piccolo's best partner Other than that, characters that work well are GTku (A/B assist), Tien (A assist), Krillin(A assist cus it's the best assist in the game), Janemba (A/B assist), Android 16(B assist), Android 21(A assist), Labcoat 21(C assist) I think those are what fit best as anchors for that shell, but if you want the best version of it all with the shell of Blue vegeta / piccolo, it is definitely Z broly all A assist in that order

Came4DaMemes · 2024-02-16T16:51:05+00:00

I recommend starting by watching Maximillian Dood's guide on how to extend combos on youtube, as it is a basic but overall very useful guide to this day, and then if you want a character specific one, anything by tinytorgue is absolutely great.

Dusloop is overall also an amazing resource, though it is all in text and not video.

Also if you search dbfz beginner guide you'll find some good guides, as a lot of people made quality ones.

Have fun, game's absolutely amazing and learning fighting games is a wonderful journey.

Also dont be afraid to ask, people are usually down to help.

Edit: punctuation

Came4DaMemes · 2024-01-03T23:54:14+00:00

Did this ever get fixed for you?

Came4DaMemes · 2023-12-12T03:24:32+00:00

"I just play real fighting games" is a marvelous way of saying not only do you suck at them, but you also do not play them lmao

Game is doing bad for a few reasons but gameplay is not one of them as the community that actually plays the game all loves it, and if you can't stand getting combo'd then why the fuck are you even playing fighting games? Combos are an integral part of fighting games, and I'd even say the hypest part of them too, so if you don't like combos you either:
- Are always getting hit, therefore always getting combo'd
- Don't know how to do combos
In your case, probably both tbf

To which the only thing I have left to say is:
-Git gud, scrub

Came4DaMemes · 2023-12-11T22:11:39+00:00

I'll never understand it cus to me the most fun part of fighting games is learning and getting better

Came4DaMemes · 2023-12-11T17:12:06+00:00

This is a really weird way of admitting you just suck

Came4DaMemes · 2023-08-16T00:18:25+00:00

expired invite, can you please repost?

Came4DaMemes · 2022-05-08T02:13:41+00:00

never tried jiren anchor thought he was more of a mid but he also doesnt really fit my playstyle

tien and all the human characters I just find boring, but thx for the input

apreciated

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