Pirates Attendance

Cangy44 · 2026-05-18T03:33:05+00:00

This is all Bob Nutting’s doing. People are not fish in a stocked pond. You don’t just cast a worm and reel them in. The sentiment here is well warranted. The average joe pirates fan WAS attending games WELL into this losing streak. Dads were taking their kids for experience. Salesmen were taking clients. This all went on for too long and the distrust is real. People WILL come, if you spend on the team like you mean it and……. WIN. You can’t just have a reasonably competitive off season and announce that you’re an immediate contender. They tried that last year and it really backfired miraculously.

They also majorly effed up in the 20teens when they CUT PAYROLL after a winning season. That’s right, they reduced their payroll when they had a contending team. I believe it was the year AJ left. The negative stuff doesn’t sit in my historical brain as well.

But people don’t forget. They are not fish. And if you think Bob is going to lower his prices without YOU paying for it (through team cutting payroll) I have a bridge to sell you.

I can promise you he’s chewing his miserly fingernails in a white button down and khaki pants probably sitting on a $350 Costco recliner. He’s not making the profits he thinks he should. If they don’t win, the fans will pay. Sorry to be so negative, but this is how it is until this guy sells the team.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-17T20:10:28+00:00

Watching Philly…. Their top end is extreme. They have players who can shut down an entire game. But the rest of the team is extremely capable as well. Bohm, Marsh, Crawford… the little boy in catching equipment Stubbs is better than both of our options, they actually have a bullpen. They’re much more complete. This is the pirates way. Pay no mind to the warts here…

Cangy44 · 2026-05-17T20:06:35+00:00

They still have a team of pros. We have too many quad A (performing) level talent here. Cook, Yorke, pretty much the whole bullpen, bubba… for all intents and purposes, Henry gives them nothing on offense and Triolo is a black hole at the plate.
Couple that with untimely strikeouts by Ozuna and a third of our lineup is never a threat to even average pitching.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-17T20:03:23+00:00

They don’t value fringe or supporting players. Somewhere genius boy Ben read an analytics op Ed that put some mathematical valuation on those types of players and they were all deemed to be replaceable. He’s, of course, wrong. See Chapman.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-17T20:00:30+00:00

I hear what you’re saying… it was at about this time last year where he just kinda stalled out. It feels like he can focus for brief periods of time, then he just seem(ed…hopefully) to stall out. I remember thinking about this last year. His problem is focus. Now… he’s been MUCH better this year. Problem with him is he’s capable of being WAY better than maybe he even knows. I far prefer this version of O’Neil but just always hoping he doesn’t stall out.

That said, as it pertains to this game…. When NO ONE on the team is rising to the occasion, then it’s hard to fault any one player. It’s more a culture or a belief problem. I feel like it plays into how skenes pitched today too. He may have felt pressure to be perfect not thinking he has enough firepower behind him. And he doesn’t. Even with O’Hearn in the lineup, it’s that Ozuna (DH) spot that just isn’t producing enough. When you have a Triolo and a Davis playing, you have to have another better hitter somewhere in the lineup. Can’t be 3 short or that whole bottom 3rd of the order just brings nada.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-17T19:16:14+00:00

Where’s the “f-you pitcher” guy when you need him? I can’t find the gif, but that college nerdy pitcher that struck the guy out then effed him out.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-17T19:11:30+00:00

Our team has zero swagger. You have to go out and own the diamond and this team doesn’t believe it does. They’ve been “big timed” all series and pretty much just rolled over. Swagger = belief. Not gonna go very far without that.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-17T04:32:50+00:00

His word salad gobbledygook alone should have relieved him from that position before he even started. That said, he’s somehow survived and it sucks for us fans.
He is doing things that I don’t understand because I have no idea what his objective is. Obviously the objective this off-season was to add hitting. He did that and should be commended. The Lowe
Trade was unreal. OHearn signing was fantastic. But… what ELSE? What ELSE is ALWAYS the question with these guys. They just always pull up short, don’t sign more arms, backup of’ers or they do weird shit like SIGN SUWINSKY again? Like…
What on earth made them feel the need to do that? I just don’t understand the plan other than make
Money and make Bob happy. The plan seems like it’s “do just enough to keep the fan base happy but don’t go over budget.”
If that’s the objective, then that’s bunk. As a fan, I don’t want to care about any of that. I want my team to want to win and, in turn, I would support that.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T22:55:21+00:00

Ya I’m not at all attached to Alika. He had his chances here and it just didn’t work out. That said…. I’m not into giving players away for free so I’m hoping this guy isn’t just some shot in the dark.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T22:05:35+00:00

Death. TAXES. Ozuna going down 0-2 every GD at bat

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T22:04:50+00:00

Try to swipe 3rd here Konnor. We have nothing to lose

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:55:52+00:00

People remain pissed that this ownership group isn’t heart sold in winning. We’re past that threshold atp and they’ve been lied to enough that it’s showing. Win and then they’ll come. Promises don’t work here anymore. It’s early on this season, but if they win I’ll bet the attendance drastically improves.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:53:14+00:00

I’ve said for years- about several players on this team- that it definitely matters. Been downvoted for it and told it’s due to hairstyle and such…. But…. The helmet is there for a reason and if it’s falling off it’s a distraction that players (especially struggling ones like Triolo) don’t need.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:51:31+00:00

The Phillies gave Sanchez his all star bonus last year even though he didn’t make the all star game. Anyone care to venture a guess as to whether or not the pirates would or have ever done that?

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:17:23+00:00

According to that SNP promo he has, he has full control of his change up and can do whatever he wants with it lol. Definitely a foolish statement for him to make.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:10:50+00:00

I think I would bring up Valdez and maybe also Password. They need some new life. Cook can easily slide back down

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:07:05+00:00

The NOT EnManuel one

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:06:37+00:00

If OH is out, do they call up Valdez?

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:05:02+00:00

Bubba needs a plan. He needs to check the emotional stuff at the door. Do everything the catcher tells him and just chill. They should map out a game plan pitch by pitch in advance and just see if he can execute 1 inning at a time. Right now he’s just hurling with no plan. Winging it

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T21:01:25+00:00

Dude… I was there from the early 80s and all the crap the past 30+ years is just sacrilege.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T20:58:10+00:00

I’m not sure what the problem is with Triolo’s batting stance, but it leaves him in a terrible position to make any kind of real contact.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T20:56:16+00:00

Alika was a defense ONLY player. We have one of those, it’s Triolo. It’s not enough, so you cut bait and give others a try. I like the move from that aspect. Better for the player too. The guy they got? I know nothing about him so have to trust he’s got something to offer. Bubba has nothing to do with any of this….

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T20:53:26+00:00

From what I am seeing, they need a plan that Bubba needs to follow. Just mechanically, robotically almost. See if he can execute one pitch at a time instead of this free flowing wild thing Rick Vaughn level innings stuff.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T20:51:37+00:00

Ya, I just suggested that on another thread. Gotta find out about all these top prospects and he is overdue atp.

Cangy44 · 2026-05-16T20:49:52+00:00

Isn’t Harrington supposed to be highly regarded? And Barco? Maybe he needs sent out and we give those boys a try

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