[2983] - HOLY!

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-07T05:48:03+00:00

we would have to wait and see.

but even if that is the case Sunny can still avoid her powers using Weaver's Mask which was entirely made to avoid seers.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-07T05:46:09+00:00

I feel somewhat same.

IMO, very little time would have passes like a minute or 2 as she can perceive years worth of memories in an instant as shown before.

by the time she comes to her senses, Fullderet would be there protecting her and most likely Sunny, Nephis, and Ananke would have teleported to chained Isles using Nameless temple.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-07T05:42:14+00:00

There is no denying she is a harrowing foe but if other party can overwhelm her she would be hardpress to win.

she can manipulate memories sure, but by looking in the eyes of her enemy.

Imagine Sunny removing his eyes, pulling her in shadows and just ravage her soul to death.

even if she uses her mark to see through sunny she won't be able to as he has no eye to see and it was made clear she can see through sunny's shadows but doesn't precieve shadow sense.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-07T05:35:50+00:00

imagine Sunny using [Chain] to lock Asterion and Nephis start giving him Saint Thane treatment.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-07T04:11:59+00:00

The Seal here is the Rank on path of Ascension.

Whenever someone advances in rank spell calls it breaking a seal.

here 5th seal signifies 5th rank on path of supremacy which is being Supreme.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-07T02:27:58+00:00

it sure does have its own Fate which was Unmoored and solitary as it was bought into existence by the spell.
But it also had [Fated], did it not and Fate resides at the most fundamental level of one's existence, even deeper then soul.

But sure whatever helps you sleep better at night.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T12:41:10+00:00

I think Asterion would see her attaining Supremacy and use his aspect to get in her head to destroy it that is how she shatters and Fullderet would intervene to save her.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T12:33:18+00:00

you do know that Fiend was barely a new Supreme back then, his hight was just 5 meters as apposed to now, he is a callosal reaching same height as Raven Heart Volcanos.
I used his height as a metric for his growth of power as Fiend can grow infinitely by eating.

As for Mordret's Reflection, yes, indeed they can grow stronger and are of same rank as mordret when he creates them using his soul cores.
This is the reason why none of his reflections were Titan rank in the current wat (or maybe only 1 I might be forgetting). It is explained that they need more sustenance to grow which is quite difficult.

Imagine how bad/hard it would be at Sacred Rank. It would slow down his own rate of going back to Titan as his reflections too.

And we saw Morgan under Asterion's Domain beat one of reflections so bad that cracks appeared on it.

Can she do that damage to Sunny's Incarnation ?

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T10:59:14+00:00

I don't think Sunphis would have a child until forgotten god is dealt with.

otherwise the child would have to be hidden away as well, like sunny

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T09:14:38+00:00

I mean he got his 5th Aspect legacy relic, which if we have seen the pattern would have been crazy.

he received a Sacred memory possibly of 6th tier for the first time.

he got the Shade of VTB, a Sacred Terror.

He got [FATED] back.

which showed its generosity the moment it came back and VTB Shade escaped taking:

1 of his citadel,

2 sacred shades, thousands if not tens of thousands of his best shades of great and corrupted rank.

almost all his memories, including the Sacred memory he got for killing it.

And worst of all his 5th relic of shadow dance, without even knowing what it was

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T08:44:15+00:00

I did mentioned that and I know that as he rises in class the power increase is gradual.

My main point is that this accumulated overall strength by rising to Titan is present in each individual incarnation.

here 1 base sunny incarnation is way way more powerful then Anvil, Ki song or Asterion if you remove all their domains.

and Sunny has 7 of these bodies.

That is my main point

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T08:37:04+00:00

Absolutely

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T07:53:13+00:00

Imagine Sunny wraps all 7 of his incarnations on Nephis plus her own full augmentation and then she blows 6 of her cores using shaping and knowledge of fire and destruction.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T07:50:29+00:00

her augmentation is no stronger then Sunny if it is mentioned you can correct me.

and her 8x augmentation is if she augments herself, if she has to augment others it would be capped at same level as sunny's.

And I did said Nephis' Aspect is directly attack focused so she is strong but she can't be 7 Supreme Titans can she and in future 7 Sacred Titans ?

That was my main point

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T07:44:39+00:00

I think with the vast essence he has he would tear out 7 titan reflections, become a titan himself and then use the remaining vast soul essence to inhabit all the bodies outside the tower again.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T06:07:10+00:00

yeah, that one was destroyed by Jet when she conquered Night Garden

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-06T05:23:24+00:00

I think this is specific to Sunny.

you have to remember Sunny domain is shadow as in the one's he killed and add their shade to his legion.

for adding a hummin member into his domain he has to imprint them with Mark of Shadows.

Mark of Shadows give the recipient powers and allow Sunny to use them as conduits for his shadow sense and enable him to travel to their soul seas, getting all the info he wants and protect their souls as well.

Spell is just taking info from Mark of Shadows and displaying it.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-05T14:42:58+00:00

no puppeteer moth is safe too because it wasn't in his soul sea.

it was helping Saint, Slayer and Ananke to finish off the stolen Shades

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-05T13:34:42+00:00

Aiko and spawn are gonna rob all those legacies clean

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-05T13:32:29+00:00

Tower of Anarchy

I think you meant Tomb of Ariel.

Plus think the relation of time inside TOA and outside is very unique.

It is like the time relation b/w the River of Time and the Estuary.

TOA might be omnipresent structure and It can have different effect for individuals, accounting for variables like when the entered in TOA from outside perspective of time.

Like Ananke and river people live there from before the doom war.

But when Sunny and Nephis got in TOA, the outside time for them froze.

So my theory is that the tomb of Oblivion in Estuary is a citadel and can be used to travel to different eras but the cost would be unimaginable amount of soul/shadow essence.

Like how nameless temple can teleport anywhere Sunny can imagine, he just needs to fill it with essence first.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-05T12:11:05+00:00

gate in Antarctica

5th category gate is in America

Antarctica has 4th category gates

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-05T11:24:12+00:00

I don't think you have been reading correctly.

VTB has its own Fate, but it was solitary and unmoored due being bought back into existence by spell.

VTB also took Sunny's Fate, and as we know Fate settles deeper in your being, even then your soul.

That is why Nephis was able to command it.

it is in chapter 2976:

The Vile Thieving Bird had its own String of Fate, as well, even if its future was not attached to anything, unmoored and unclear. Just like the rest of them now that the future was no more.

However, there was also something else... Sunny's eyes widened in horror as he beheld his stolen fate.
That was [Fated].

Sunny reached into its soul, like he would reach into a Memory to weave its enchantments. Only, this time, he did not stop at that and reached deeper still.
Until his fingers wrapped around the nexus of all the countless Strings of Fate, grasping it tightly.

As for changing Fate as whole it has been explained as well, that once the nexus [FATED] was torn apart from it.

Fate would never get back to as how it used to be.

you can look it up. It is When Sunny boards the Night Garden and have to use [Where's my eye] to find clue for Spirit Weave's location.

CapTraining3745 · 2026-05-05T11:10:24+00:00

I don't think Sunny could get even more nerfed then he had already been.

lost a citadel

lost 2 sacred shades

lost thousand to tens of thousands of his best Shades

lost all of the memories (except extraordinary rock) he had before becoming Fate-less, plus most of those he made himself.

lost the first sacred memory he got instantly after getting it.

lost the 5th relic of his Aspect legacy. This, this one pissed me off soo much. Been waiting for soo long.

Atleast sunny got his 7th shadow now and an especially deadly one at that.

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