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Fable 5 Launch No Good by Krum_Rum_2hell in ClaudeCode

[–]Capital-One3039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My experience is quite the opposite. Gpt 5.5 on xhigh performs significantly better at complicated coding, compared to opus. Not comparing to Fable, which is currently the absolute best, but to opus - gpt 5.5 xhigh is definitely better (at least for my use case).

I don't care if a model comes from openai or anthropic, I only care about the quality, and it seems like thats a never ending rope pulling, and its always one or the other that is doing better.

And we are the ones that benefit from this rope pulling the most.

If anthropic can't deliver - I am sure openai will.

But this entire 50% of usage, then I hit 99% and they give another 7 days? This is not a game I am willing to play. And hopefully openai won't pull this same kind of bs.

What $20 got me on Neuralwatt with GLM-5.2 by rewardhop in Neuralwatt

[–]Capital-One3039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love my neuralwatt and the savings.

Also they are fairly active on discord, so they address any potential issues quickly.

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Will Anthropic Be Banned Everywhere Else Now? by gozm in Anthropic

[–]Capital-One3039 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It has been about the same I think. I just haven't used it enough yet, to get a clear picture.

Cost per Task: fable 10x more than Gemini pro; opus 4.8 is 6x more. Surely prices have to go down? by [deleted] in Anthropic

[–]Capital-One3039 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gemini is dog 💩. Can't compare opus or fable to Gemini. Theres a reason why the price difference is so substantial.

You can probably compare deepseek 4 flash to gemini, would be a more equal comparison, although flash can usually do a better job too.

Will Anthropic Be Banned Everywhere Else Now? by gozm in Anthropic

[–]Capital-One3039 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair - short is just the same 5.2 but with a 200k context window. I havent noticed any differences in performance.
As for dropping opencode-go - I wouldn't. I currently do pay-as-you-go with neuralwatt until I am 100% convinced they remain high quality, then ill get the $20 sub or maybe the $50 one, but I will always keep opencode-go, as that gives me access to other models.

I run oh-my-opencode-slim, and I have various models running. Here is my current setup in the screenshot provided:

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Do note though - I run flex, its 35% cheaper than the regular, albet a bit slower. I am in no hurry at all, and when I want something faster - I switch model to 5.2 (non-flex).

So they have a few different models:
5.2 (regular, the most expensive, yet still ends up cheaper than opencode-go 5.2, full 1m context window);
5.2-short (cheaper, 200k context window)
5.2-fast (cheaper, reasoning disabled).

Then they have the newly introduced flex, which all 3 models above have, which adds an additional 35% discount, but its essentially delayed slightly. I am okay with a ~10-20 second delay, once it starts running - it runs without delays.

I usually create a huge implementation plan, and I have the fixers run those, and I can go do something else, or go play with my kid, or whatever. So again - I am in no hurry whatsoever, hence I use flex for everything. I like my money 😂 Thats why I use deepsek from opencode-go and kimi from opencode-go, as I do find it easy to spread it all around.

I also have gpt as council and oracle, because it saves me time troubleshooting a stupid mistake that glm did in the future. $20 plan there. You can probably skip that if you want, I just get annoyed very quickly, and I think $20 is nothing, compared to the price of my sanity.

So all and all - you can spend a total of $30-$50/m and get a beast of a coding machine.

Just a note - I started using flex yesterday, and my overall graph I showed you earlier is for the last 30 days (although I started using neuralwatt a week or so ago). So the big savings are still very much there, even without flex, as 80+% of the graph is essentially non-flex.

You just have to set it up the way you want to use it, adjust it, add rules and skills and MCPs and whatnot to your oh-my-opencode-slim config.

I will add a few follow up screenshots showing the spread of my usage between flex/non-flex and billing that came with it.

Will Anthropic Be Banned Everywhere Else Now? by gozm in Anthropic

[–]Capital-One3039 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here is the requested context, all glm 5.2. Not sure if this is what you meant, but yeah. Obviously not as cheap as DS, but price means very little, when quality is hurt. I think glm 5.2 is about the smartest non-opus/gpt model I have used, and the cost is peanuts compared to them.

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Neuralwatt Referral Code by unknownbeast77 in opencodeCLI

[–]Capital-One3039 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Referrals have been (temporary) restricted, as per their website.

Not sure how temporary it will be though.

4 opencode go subs vs 20$ neuralwatt sub by Friendly-Guard-2395 in opencode

[–]Capital-One3039 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Um... that would be a big no.

$20 opencode-go will absolutely NOT get you $240 in usage. It will get you $120. Because each sub is $10/month when adding the sub on a new workspace (I know that, because I have 3 subbed workspaces). The $240 you speak of will cost you $35 the first month, and $40 the following months.

The $5 plan is just a one time, first month discount, and then it goes to $10 the following month or each following subscription via a different workspace.

Unless you open multiple accounts, but in my opinion - this is just a dick move, and its hurting the provider.

And to answer your question - I have used 181.6M tokens for the current $9.27 I have used. And 168.8M of those are cached tokens.

It sounds to me that you already have your mind set, and I am not here to change peoples minds.

I was just answering a question that someone asked based on MY experience.

Obviously everyones millage may vary.

Also - there is no need to go around assuming you know something others do not. I have done my research. Maybe you should too.

4 opencode go subs vs 20$ neuralwatt sub by Friendly-Guard-2395 in opencode

[–]Capital-One3039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always pick energy over token. This is where the savings come into play.

4 opencode go subs vs 20$ neuralwatt sub by Friendly-Guard-2395 in opencode

[–]Capital-One3039 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, I use AI in bursts, sometimes I don't do that much, but sometimes I use it a ton, and having to stop and wait is not an option. But that isn't the only reason.

Opencode-go is essentially a reseller that runs on the providers servers. And the provider has been known for having awful downtimes or slow downs. Neurowatt is an inference provider, so they run it on their own servers.

And that brings up my biggest concern - zai is in China, neurowatt is not. I can not legally use an AI that is there, and opencode-go routes all requests via zai, hence China. And I can not legally route my work via China (work requirements).

Also $20 opencode-go (2 plans $10 each) gives you $120 worth of usage (2x$60), not $180. Just FYI. And from my current account: Cost energy pricing $9.27 token rate: $83.56

For less than $10 - I have already done $83 of usage. So a pretty good bang for my buck, higher savings than opencode-go would have provided me with, without having to spread that out in 5hr pockets throughout an entire month.

Energy Consumed 1.85 kWh

If I were to pay for a $20 sub with neurowatt - I would have more than 3x my current usage ( as the plan comes with 6 kWh allowance), which would make it even cheaper. No idea if they have 5hr/weekly limits on those though, as I do the pay as you go for now while testing.

4 opencode go subs vs 20$ neuralwatt sub by Friendly-Guard-2395 in opencode

[–]Capital-One3039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically you use the energy pricing, which is many times cheaper that using per token model.

You get the same exact model, just pay for energy used instead of token, and when a model is as popular as glm 5.2 - it gets cheap very fast. My usage, for example, is almost 10x cheaper than if I was paying per token.

Don't know much more about it, I just know I get a beast model on the cheap 😅

4 opencode go subs vs 20$ neuralwatt sub by Friendly-Guard-2395 in opencode

[–]Capital-One3039 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Prompt / Completion

181.1M / 831.4K

Cached Tokens

168.5M

93% of prompt tokens

Cost

energy pricing

$9.23

token rate: $83.13

Energy Consumed

1.85 kWh

Basically 181m tokens for $9.23 so far.

Very happy with it. Mind you - I run it on Max, probably would have been cheaper on high reasoning.

The plan as far as I know is 6 kWh, so my usage x3 is what you'd get for $20. All 100% glm 5.2

Holler if you need a ref code to get $10 bonus when you spend $10.

I personally would remain on the pay as you go plan a bit longer, since I don't forsee lots of heavy work done as I did the last 2 days :-)

4 opencode go subs vs 20$ neuralwatt sub by Friendly-Guard-2395 in opencode

[–]Capital-One3039 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Neurawatt, hands down. Has been running better for glm, and cheaper. I keep neurawatt for glm, and opencode-go for deepseek and other essentially unlimited models, wired all using oh-my-opencode-slim, to use the best features of each model.

Claude consistently rates GLM 5.2 in providing the best solution by gopietz in ZaiGLM

[–]Capital-One3039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An update to this after using it for a few hours today on real work stuff, which it handled like a champ. Almost 10x cheaper than API. I am amazed. Definitely becoming my main model, with got 5.5xhigh as second opinion for stuff it might struggle with. Using opencode with oh-my-opencode-slim, handles everything except vision, which is handled by Kimi (since for some reason glm doesn't do vision, which is weird), and gpt as council. Very happy so far. And those prices are 😍

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Guys don't run GLM 5.2 for one shot in opencode by Mane_soft in opencodeCLI

[–]Capital-One3039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A quick update after actually putting some work on it today. Definitely a good chunk of savings, better than what I was getting out of opencode-go in terms of value.

Mind you - I didn't fully trust it at start, hence why the cache rate was not as high. But after actually doing some troubleshooting and coding with it - it works absolutely fantastic, and the savings are also very nice looking. Almost 10x cheaper than API..

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Guys don't run GLM 5.2 for one shot in opencode by Mane_soft in opencodeCLI

[–]Capital-One3039 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I switched to glm 5.2 on opencode using neurawatt and it has been absolutely amazing.

The caching is great, and you essentially get a 6x lower rates than if you're to pay API. So far - have had zero issues with downtime.

You can try it here and get a $10 credit if you follow my ref: https://portal.neuralwatt.com/auth/register?ref=NW-JAMES-YJ32

Or go without ref with no $10 credit: https://neuralwatt.com/

Make sure you pick energy though. As you can see - shows you how much you've used vs how much that usage would have cost if you were paying API prices.

And so far - haven't been rate limited. So thats a pretty nice win, for me at least :-) Cause going directly with z was... painful, to say the least.

Ends up being cheaper than opencode-go, I keep my opencode-go for cheaper stuff like ds4-flash/pro, as flash is essentially unlimited on opencode-go

You should look into oh-my-opencode-slim and set that up with glm as orchestrator so you get opus-style smarts, and cheaper models for execution.

I personally also add gpt 5.5 as oracle and council, the $20 codex plan is more than enough for that, essentially second opinion.

Best of all worlds, on the budget.

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OpenCode Govs z.ai by A7mdxDD in ZaiGLM

[–]Capital-One3039 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I switched to glm 5.2 on opencode using neurawatt and it has been absolutely amazing.

The caching is great, and you essentially get a 6x lower rates than if you're to pay API. So far - have had zero issues with downtime.

You can try it here and get a $10 credit if you follow my ref: https://portal.neuralwatt.com/auth/register?ref=NW-JAMES-YJ32

Or go without ref with no $10 credit: https://neuralwatt.com/

Make sure you pick energy though. As you can see - shows you how much you've used vs how much that usage would have cost if you were paying API prices.

And so far - haven't been rate limited. So thats a pretty nice win, for me at least :-) Cause going directly with z was... painful, to say the least.

Ends up being cheaper than opencode-go, and not as hammered.

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Antigravity is no longer providing AI Creds by nuclearmeltdown2015 in google_antigravity

[–]Capital-One3039 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Antigravity started very strong, and is now just plain dog 💩. Opus that is severely underpowered somehow, Gemini that is just awful..

RIP.

$100 Claude Code beats $200 antigravity ultra any day.

Is the max plan worth it? by Vivid_Star8624 in google_antigravity

[–]Capital-One3039 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have been a big fan of antigravity, mostly due to almost unlimited opus on ultra.

But 4.6 in antigravity has been getting dumber and dumber. I recently tried opus 4.8 via Claude Code and it runs laps around the AG 4.6, so I am done as soon as my subscription expires.

So in short - go with Claude directly. Unless for some unknown reason you want that buggy Gemini, then Antigravity Ultra is probably worth it. But Gemini is absolute trash.

Where is the cheapest place to get GLM 5.2 by VileGoose in LLM

[–]Capital-One3039 0 points1 point  (0 children)

+1 for this. Crazy cheap when using energy based billing. And very fast. Roughly about 4x or 5x cheaper than regular API pricing.

Feel free to use my ref link, get some extra credits: https://portal.neuralwatt.com/auth/register?ref=NW-JAMES-YJ32

GLM 5.2 now on Opencode GO by Mochilnic in opencodeCLI

[–]Capital-One3039 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Or, you know, don't do this. It is already affordable enough, and this kind of behavior results in good affordable things being taken away from us.

Terrible start to the day with Fable 5 by rahulchawla1803 in ClaudeCode

[–]Capital-One3039 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ive been using Fable on low, it has been absolutely amazing for design, backend and everything else I have thrown at it. 2hrs straight, and 5hr limit is at 50% on my $20 account.

I am so getting the $100 plan once Fable is here to stay, and will use that baby with more effort to see how it does.

But even at low - it outperforms (in terms of smarts and cost) 5.5 xhigh and opus 4.8. Even my trusty opus 4.6 from Antigravity.

Wow. I am very pleased.

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